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Old 03-06-22, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by indyfabz
I cut a tire during a week-long event. Mechanical support only had Gatorskins as replacements. Riding on that thing on the rear was awful.
The Mech Support carries such type of tires to teach riders a lesson... To be better at avoiding hazards in the road, unless that rider wishes to experience a rolling punishment.
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Originally Posted by indyfabz
I cut a tire during a week-long event. Mechanical support only had Gatorskins as replacements. Riding on that thing on the rear was awful.
Originally Posted by Troul
The Mech Support carries such type of tires to teach riders a lesson... To be better at avoiding hazards in the road, unless that rider wishes to experience a rolling punishment.
A couple years ago, one of our forumers -- a frequent contrarian -- referred to his "sweet, supple Gatorskins." I immediately put him on the ignore list.
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Originally Posted by Koyote
A couple years ago, one of our forumers -- a frequent contrarian -- referred to his "sweet, supple Gatorskins." I immediately put him on the ignore list.
lmao. Wonder if they knew that, & if they took that hard?
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Originally Posted by Troul
lmao. Wonder if they knew that, & if they took that hard?
Nay. Someone who appreciated those sweet, supple Gatorskins is going to have no issues with a sweet and supple Koyote.

I remember that post. Forgot his name.
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Originally Posted by Troul
lmao. Wonder if they knew that, & if they took that hard?
That's not the point of ignoring someone.

Originally Posted by 79pmooney
Nay. Someone who appreciated those sweet, supple Gatorskins is going to have no issues with a sweet and supple Koyote.

I remember that post. Forgot his name.
He was obviously forgettable.
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Originally Posted by Troul
The Mech Support carries such type of tires to teach riders a lesson... To be better at avoiding hazards in the road, unless that rider wishes to experience a rolling punishment.
One rest stop one day was right across from a gravel pit. Lots of sharp stones on the shoulder. I think it was a setup.
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Originally Posted by 79pmooney

I remember that post. Forgot his name.
Same here.
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The irony of this thread is that in my experience, good tires are probably the cheapest way to markedly improve the actual performance of a bike. This has been proven true to me in every type of bike I ride from road to MTB to gravel to fatbike.
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Originally Posted by PeteHski
You don't learn anything new by listening only to what you wanted to hear.

There is actually quite a wide variation in rolling resistance between tyres of the same nominal size. Both compound and construction affect rolling resistance. Basically, lighter, more supple tyres are faster. The difference can be quite significant if speed is actually important to you. But there are also a lot of other factors to consider when choosing tyres i.e. braking and cornering grip (wet and dry), comfort, durability and puncture resistance. Personally I don't skimp on tyres as they are ultimately the only thing between you and the hard, unforgiving road. So I buy the best tyres for my needs (not necessarily the fastest rolling).
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....I can say one good thing about Continental Gatorskin tyres. They were not nearly as bad as Specialized Armadillo road tyres used to be. I Googled to make sure they were still selling them (they are), and discovered there is now an Armadillo Elite. Now I have this mental picture of an armadillo dead in the middle of a local Texas highway, wearing a tuxedo.
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Originally Posted by wolfchild
The price of bike tires is insane right now....3 years ago I purchased a pair of WTB Riddler gravel tires 700 x 45 mm size for $ 65 dollars per tire...Just yesterday I was at the same store where I bought these tires and now they cost $ 95 dollars per tire.
Is this them?
https://www.hibike.com/wtb-riddler-2...2#var_43282937
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Originally Posted by 79pmooney
Nay. Someone who appreciated those sweet, supple Gatorskins is going to have no issues with a sweet and supple Koyote.

I remember that post. Forgot his name.
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Originally Posted by Hiro11
The irony of this thread is that in my experience, good tires are probably the cheapest way to markedly improve the actual performance of a bike.
Well that and say, dropping 10-15lbs in weight can make an enormous difference. (in my case 20lbs would be better!)
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After many different tries ya finally get a set of tires you really like. Its more than the specs of weight, and resistance. Some times they just feel good...

My favorite old school tire was Vitoria Sew Ups... Ha... Now days my favorite tiers reflect my Geezer type riding style...

"Continental Ride Tour" and "Kenda K184"

So how much do they weigh and what is thier rolling resistance? Duh... They just feel good...
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Ask yourself this: why buy a set of $120 each radial tires for your car, when you can get a set of $75 bias ply tires in the same size?
$75 and two is better I dont like the car anyway.
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Are we having some sort of "font-off" now?
To what do you refer?
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Originally Posted by Koyote
A couple years ago, one of our forumers -- a frequent contrarian -- referred to his "sweet, supple Gatorskins." I immediately put him on the ignore list.

The "supple" part is just ridiculous, the "sweet" part makes me worry about an eating disorder.
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Originally Posted by Iride01
If you only ride your bike for short and/or leisurely riding, then it probably should make no difference whatsoever.

If you like measuring yourself against the clock and other data while riding, then you might want tires with less rolling resistance which are typically the higher dollar tire.
It's not always riding against the clock. Sometimes it's just trying to get home (or to the end of your ride) before the rain hits!
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Originally Posted by wolfchild
The actual speed difference between various tires is so small that it makes no difference to most people who are not racing..
I don't race road bikes but I do race mountain bikes. Tires make a difference.

On my road bike the switch from Bontrager Hard Case Lite tires to Conti GP5000 was a noticeable difference in both ride comfort and pedaling resistance.
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Originally Posted by jdogg111
ok. i've seen lots of posts about tires making a difference in speed on here. i can't wrap my head around that. one pedal stroke gets you so far, so fast. as fast as you pedal. so why does a 50 dollar tire go faster than a 20 dollar tire, or am i way off base as to what tire speed even means, as regards to pedal stroke, resistance? i know size can make a difference, as can tread as to the amount of energy used to make a pedal stroke, but as for speed, someone smart explain to me how two of the same size tires, say 700x 25, with same tread , do different things, be it a 20 dollar dept store tire or a 50 dollar bike shop tire.
Two words: Rolling Resistance

One more word: Aerodynamics

What the heck, another word: Weight
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Originally Posted by wolfchild
The actual speed difference between various tires is so small that it makes no difference to most people who are not racing..
There are lots of people who enjoy riding fast, but never pin on a number. The differences between very supple race tires and very stiff puncture resistant tires are decidedly noticeable. It may not matter to some, possibly many riders, but that doesn't mean the difference is unimportant.
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Originally Posted by ColonelSanders
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Blast from the past! Well done!
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Originally Posted by ColonelSanders
Yep that's the one.
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Originally Posted by ofajen
The effective frontal area (which determines wind drag at a given speed) scales less than linearly with mass, so it scales less than the corresponding gravitational force at a given mass. That is why heavier riders tend to go faster downhill.

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This. I constantly roll up behind lighter riders on downhills
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