ACyclingRooster

Hi to you all out there. Is there anyone out there that can help me identify a frame that I am considering purchasing.

It has been listed as A Woodrup and when I asked the frame number I was told it was TD 5313.

The lugs are not what I was expecting to see albeit they did not consistently use Nervex - the lugs are nice but rather plain and a little like the ones that used to be on my 1937 Hetchins 2 day Vibrant Track Frame.

Your help would be great-fully appreciated.

CliffordK

More photos would be nice, but outwardly, I don't think it has very great workmanship. The seat stay ends look quite plain. So, without seeing any stickers, I'm guessing basic High-Ten steel.

ACyclingRooster

Hi Clifford. Thank you for your reply. Unfortunately I cannot get any other images as there are no others with the listing.
I have had difficulty in even getting basic information from the seller - he is not responding to my questions in good-time and seemingly only part answering them;so I am guessing the additional images would be a real problem.

WizardOfBoz

That would trip my trust limit switch. I'd pass. But if you've always wanted a Woodrup frame and this is the first you've seen in ten years or something, ... maybe.

ironwood

Try the C&V forum.

ACyclingRooster

Hi WizardOfBoz and those that had replied to my post.

The E'bay seller has 'allegedly' sold the frame after seemingly had it advertised 'Else Where'

I pointed out to him that the lug-work was not what I expected to see on a Woodrup frame and that the frame number would not otherwise have a Prefix of alphabetical letters.

CliffordK

Is your "original" photo better resolution than the one here?

Is this a local purchase, or an internet purchase?
How much?
What are your intentions with the bike?

It appears as if Woodrup made a variety of frames.

The features that stand out to me include:

• Rear dropouts appear to be pressed steel without a derailleur hanger. Usually found on low-end bikes.
• There also appears to be an odd cable stop, about 6" above the bottom bracket on the downtube. This also is a feature sometimes found on low-end bikes.
• Odd hole in fork? Certainly not a "racing bike", but perhaps designed for a generator or rack.
• Top of seat stays appear to be simply crimped, and brazed. It is hard to tell from the photo.
  Many of the premier "English" frames had wrap-around seat stays. This isn't one of those.
• This is a very small frame. Make sure it fits your intended purpose.

Of big concern... And, I wouldn't go out of my way before verifying.

• Seat Clamp looks wacky. Probably due to a poor photo, but it is just hard to tell.
• It almost appears to have a hole where the brake bridge should be. It may also be a photo artifact, but it is odd.
• No chainstay bridge (not all bikes had them), but also an odd rust spot just behind where one should be.

ACyclingRooster

Hi Clifford. That was the only image and off of the E'bay listing (Copied & Pasted).
Yes,I had also taken notice of some of the other things that did look a bit odd - but without good images it is near-on impossible.
It is apparently;now,no longer available but the listing finished without a single bid.

rmfnla

Next time post a link to the actual eBay listing...