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rjones28 

As I recall, Dad just pushed me down the driveway and let nature take it's course.

rjones28 

Also, my first rides were gravel rides. We lived in a new housing development and the roads weren't finished yet.

bampilot06

Had a new one this morning. Was approaching a stop sign with a police officer sitting across the intersection. His window was down, and I could see him starring at me. I came to a complete stop, but didn’t unclip, just balanced standing up for a second or two then proceeded to start moving forward. As soon as I started to move he turned on his lights. I immediately stopped again, and this time I unclipped and put my foot down. He started shaking his head in a “yes” motion and turned his lights off.
I didn’t realize unclipping was law? I came to a stop before I was going to proceed. It was 620 am no traffic at this particular intersection ever. I wonder if he would have chased me down if I didn’t unclip?

abshipp 

Sounds like he's just a jerk.

Lemond1985

In my state (CA) for my entire life, I have seen motorcycle riders put a foot on the ground at stop signs, despite no vehicle code section that I know of requiring this. My guess is that they can get ticketed for not doing this. AFAIK, the only requirement at stop signs is to come to a complete stop.

If I were in your situation, I would be running my camera, so that if I got a ticket, I could probably get out of it if I brought video to court showing I came to a complete stop. YMMV in your state.

RPK79

I've noticed Home Depot is very much on an honor system with their checkout system.

bampilot06

I need to get a camera. It’s on the list.

abshipp 

I looked up some of the VA statutes, all they say is that you are required to come to a "full and complete stop". I can't find anything that requires you to put a foot down, but maybe that's how bampilot06's local PD interprets the statute?

I did see that cyclists and motorcyclists can treat red lights as stop signs, though

WhyFi

**** him.

Lemond1985

So it comes down to how honest his local traffic court is. If they follow the law, he likely gets off. But if he lives in Hazzard County, and Boss Hogg's cabin by the lake needs some new furniture, he's out of luck.

WhyFi

I never understood the bit about waiting one or two complete cycles before it's okay to run the light. Like, if the lights are actually cycling, what's the frigging problem? Maybe this would apply to the odd left turn arrow? Not seeing too many other situations.

Velo Vol 

It's more an art than a science.

We know. Paved roads were rare in the early days.

LAJ

If there's a cop in sight, the foot goes down. The same goes to a kindly motorist waiving me through. No. You were there first, or you're to the right of me, follow the traffic laws as I'm supposed to.

Velo Vol 

Could be left turn or even straight if the sensors are independent from the oncoming traffic. In other words, the on-coming traffic might get a green light but you don't if the sensors don't pick up the bicycle.

WhyFi

Grrr - another last page lockout.

WhyFi

Ah. I don't think that I've ever encountered one of those - I've seen some left turn signals that weren't included in a cycle, but I can't recall not getting a regular ol' green included.

WhyFi

I do that with drivers, because it causes too much trouble and bother when people don't follow the script, but I have no problem doing a track stand and daring a cop to be an uber a-hole.

abshipp 

Reading it again I can't tell whether all of the listed conditions have to be satisfied before you proceed through or if it's permissible to proceed if one or more of the conditions is satisfied

bampilot06

I guess I need to find out what a “FULL and COMPLETE stop means to a bicycle.
When it comes to other drivers I take LAJ stand foot comes off even if they are waving me through. That causes to much confusion on all fronts.

Bah Humbug

Not a lot of trees in this part of Texas. There are some in neighborhoods that were planted, but once you get out on the road it’s scrub.

Bah Humbug

There’s a particular one on that northern highway route we used - left turn from the highway to the local road that has the rec center we start at. If there isn’t a car behind you, the light will leave you hanging forever. Worse, it’ll let the oncoming traffic keep flying through against you, so you might be waiting a while even to run the light. At the end of the ride, baking on the blacktop.

bampilot06

Sounds like it’s time for a good old fashion re route.

datlas 

Bummer. I know that "public urination" is technically a sex crime in most states, which is just plain crazy IMO.

If you are in the middle of nowhere and are discreet, I see no problem with taking a leak. It's a normal bodily function. My hope is there is some type of sheltered secluded area (even a set-back billboard?) that would allow you to not have to hunt for a public bathroom.

Lemond1985

Sometimes in that situation, if you are on a steel framed bike, you can lay it on its side over where the magnetic detector is, and trigger the light to change that way. Works about 15-20% of the time, in my experience (or maybe the light was about to change anyway, who knows?).