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Old 07-18-22, 11:50 AM
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TdF stage description

For example, on the tour website (letour.fr) stage 16 is labeled as “hilly” with one 4, one 3, and two class 1 climbs. Stage 17 is labeled as “mountain” with one class 2, and three class 1 climbs. What’s the criteria for a mountain vs. hilly stage?

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Probably a typo. Or a person making the graphic or description with not much experience not interpreting the profile correctly and not being Q&A'd by someone that look close enough at it.

I couldn't find where you were talking about at that site. On the TdF fantasy by Tissot they list Stage 15 as flat and Stage 16 as hilly. Which I can agree with considering that that there aren't any huge climbs for very long on 16. And 15 was just bumpy at best..

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Originally Posted by Iride01
Probably a typo. Or a person making the graphic or description with not much experience not interpreting the profile correctly and not being Q&A'd by someone that look close enough at it.

I couldn't find where you were talking about at that site. On the TdF fantasy by Tissot they list Stage 15 as flat and Stage 16 as hilly. Which I can agree with considering that that there aren't any huge climbs for very long on 16. And 15 was just bumpy at best..
Sorry, you’re right. Stage 15 is listed as flat. I was wrong, and should have said 16 is hilly, 17 is mountain.
Corrected above.

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I think there is some subjective assessment of the route and maybe some relativity to the other stages. Maybe something a group comes to a consensus on or just one persons opinion.

Still, the climbs aren't very long or high. Roughly 2200 ft of elevation change on the two big climbs of stage 16. And the two big climbs top out at 1511 and 1362 meters above sea level (4957 and 4468 feet). So maybe not really so spectacular as to be called a mountain stage compared to others.

And the USGS had this to say about the naming of features as to whether they were mountains or hills...
The U.S. Board on Geographic Names once stated that the difference between a hill and a mountain was 1,000 feet of local relief, but this was abandoned in the early 1970s. Broad agreement on such questions is essentially impossible, which is why there are no official feature classification standards.
https://www.usgs.gov/faqs/what-diffe...iver-and-creek

Just like us here on BF, they can't agree either.
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Not a mountain? !!

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