prj71

Who are these people that are actually sick of me?

All I stated is that I've been able to purchase bikes and bike parts as needed when needed. Again...it's not all doom and gloom.

surak

I bet I'm on that same email list. Despite that supposed good news, they were still out of Shimano 11 speed chains and the appropriate disc brake pads that I regret not stocking up on 2 years ago.

seypat

No, you said you are getting sick of people in the industry dooming and glooming.
The people like me on the supply side of industry. We're getting sick of you saying there's nothing to it, it's overblown. At least, I am. We're trying to provide some insight here, and you're saying it's all BS. You're buying your liittle 1 and 2 counts here and there like a typical consumer. Meanwhile, the actual suppliers are telling you there are problems down the line and you won't believe them.

Voodoo76

https://www.toyota-industries.com/ne.../05/21/002889/

https://www.mhwmag.com/nuts-bolts/to...-is-temporary/

prj71

No. What I said was "Just getting sick of hearing all the doom and gloom in the bike industry that isn't"

Meaning doom and gloom from people on this forum, other bike forums, facebook and other social media sites. My comment wasn't directed at those on the supply side of the industry.

prj71

Ummmmm...Fork lifts are not gas trucks. When you said gas trucks that implies the Toyota Tundra and Toyota Tacoma.

Voodoo76

Go back and look at the discussion, it was about fork truck orders not pickups.

prj71

Ahhh missed that. Thanks for pointing that out.

Bah Humbug

So your position is that, because you’re doing well financially and I’m have been able to source the parts you want, there are no issues for the people who have lost their jobs and are not able to buy parts, because the supply of parts factually underserves the demand? Do you realize how incredibly self-centered that sounds?

prj71

To be honest someone else brought their employment situation into this thread. I just replied what mine is. Which in reality my employment situation or someone else's, in the context of this thread, has nothing to do with parts availability or bike availability.

Bah Humbug

Your employment was to art of your basis for expressing frustration that other people stated they are not doing well. Your position, again, is that because you’re doing well, you don’t want to hear that there are real issues for other people. And you are doing an amazing job of trying to deflect from the fact that you just don’t want to have your bubble poked by even a mention of fundamental issues in the world.

Cue a response that that’s not exactly what you’re doing.

Kimmo

prj71

No. My position is as far as getting bikes or bike parts is that the sky is not falling and it's not all doom and gloom.

Your attempt to somehow tie in my employment status with the availability of bikes and bike parts is an epic FAIL.

prj71

What about 11 speed chains and brake pads?

https://www.amazon.com/s?k=11+speed+...ref=nb_sb_noss

https://www.amazon.com/s?k=bike+disc...s_ts-doa-p_1_9

WhyFi

Didn't you just comment that you had to be more savvy to find bike parts online? You don't think that the cascading inventory shortages, first from LBSs, then general sporting goods, then large online sellers, leaving only relatively small pockets of inventory from which to scrounge, is a sign of serious supply issues? Okay.

WhyFi

$47+tax for an HG601 and $70+tax for a 701? Oooh - ya got us there! Yeah, everything's hunky dory!

edit: and that HG601 doesn't even come with a QuickLink for that price.

surak

Oh aren't you clever. Earliest expected delivery on L04C pads: October from some no-name international third-party seller asking for $10 over MSRP, similar markup on Ultegra-level chains from similar no-names that I'd love to throw money at because everyone knows that Amazon has no counterfeit problem. Thank you for continuing to show you have no idea how to distinguish the forest from the trees.

GhostRider62

My recumbent uses three chain (it is a long bike) and Dura Ace chains (real ones) used to cost me 40 bucks each. Now, they are over 60 bucks and many of them online are now counterfeit. And you have to look hard. Try to find 700 x 28mm GP5000 tires. A few weeks ago, I searched and searched. The only ones I found were being scalped at $140 per tire.

I agree. All hunky dory

GhostRider62

You do realize those $76 Ultegra chains were $25 not long ago and they would arrive in 2 days, not 2 months. Right????

prj71

Sure it is. But not as bad as people are making it out to be.

prj71

2 months??? I'm not seeing any 11 speed chains that take 2 months. And it doesn't HAVE to be a Shimano chain to work

GhostRider62

The largest supply warehouse in the state is using cardboard shelving because they could not get metal shelving for 9 months.

I am curious. Have you ever been employed in a manufacturing facility with a complex material sourcing strategy and just in time inventory system? I ask because it seems you have no idea what you are talking about.

prj71

Yes. I am currently employed at a manufacturing facility that provides products to the home building industry. I work in the engineering department. I have been employed at the facility for 29 years as of this month.

prj71

Honestly I don't buy Shimano chains. I buy KMC.

https://www.amazon.com/s?k=kmc+11+sp...f=nb_sb_noss_2



Again...people need to think outside the box. Other sources besides Amazon as well...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/28436963304...Cclp%3A2334524

https://www.ebay.com/itm/23355091479...Cclp%3A2334524

https://www.ebay.com/itm/33273004219...Cclp%3A2334524

LAJ

Is this what you all want this to degenerate into? Is name calling and insults all you have? State your case without the snark, please.