Frames and Framebuilding (1972) R.E.W. Reynolds
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Frames and Framebuilding (1972) R.E.W. Reynolds
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Seems like the author wasn't aware that R.E.W. Reynolds never built frames, they just had them made by others to their spec.
Well "never" is a strong word and it's hard to prove a negative. Maybe they made a frame once. But I've heard from several sources that the frames were made by Woodrup (and other shops too I think) and painted at Ellis-Briggs. (Maybe BF's own Doug Fattic will comment since he was at Ellis-Briggs when some Woodrup-built frames came through to be painted and decaled as R.E.W. Reynolds.
Nothing wrong with that, Woodrups are great, and I'm not against "shop brand" bikes or frames, as long as you don't lie to the customer about the source. Not saying Mr. Reynolds lied, but it's slightly weird that the article author didn't know the source, or didn't care to report it?
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Well "never" is a strong word and it's hard to prove a negative. Maybe they made a frame once. But I've heard from several sources that the frames were made by Woodrup (and other shops too I think) and painted at Ellis-Briggs. (Maybe BF's own Doug Fattic will comment since he was at Ellis-Briggs when some Woodrup-built frames came through to be painted and decaled as R.E.W. Reynolds.
Nothing wrong with that, Woodrups are great, and I'm not against "shop brand" bikes or frames, as long as you don't lie to the customer about the source. Not saying Mr. Reynolds lied, but it's slightly weird that the article author didn't know the source, or didn't care to report it?
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When I visited REW Reynolds in 1974, he was open about having other builders make his store brand frames. I don't believe he ever made frames because he showed me a set of carved lugs he did that he was going to send to a builder to make his frame. This was a very common practice in the UK in the classic era. It didn't seem important to them who was the builder but rather how did the shop that sold them request the builder to make them. Certainly I saw REW Reynolds frames come through Ellis Briggs when I was there for painting that were built by Woodrup. As I understand it, not every Woodrup was painted by EB and not every Reynolds frame was made by Woodrup.
For example Yorkshire Builders Bob Jackson employed a number of builders with George Foster the foreman over them all. Ellis Briggs had a number of builders through the years. In America we expect most of our builders to be the only person making the frames with their name on it. In England the name on the frame represented the seller and not necessarily the builder. There were a number of builders in the London area that made frames in their shed that didn't sell them under their own name but rather were the makers for a variety of bike shops. By the way the builders had little social prestige, the bike shop owner was higher up on the social scale.
For example Yorkshire Builders Bob Jackson employed a number of builders with George Foster the foreman over them all. Ellis Briggs had a number of builders through the years. In America we expect most of our builders to be the only person making the frames with their name on it. In England the name on the frame represented the seller and not necessarily the builder. There were a number of builders in the London area that made frames in their shed that didn't sell them under their own name but rather were the makers for a variety of bike shops. By the way the builders had little social prestige, the bike shop owner was higher up on the social scale.
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Great read as usual......what was 60.00 in todays money?
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According to https://www.in2013dollars.com/us/inf...1972?amount=60, $60 in 1972 would be roughly $425 in 2022.
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According to https://www.in2013dollars.com/us/inf...1972?amount=60, $60 in 1972 would be roughly $425 in 2022.
Thanks for the information....at that price, I would consider this to be quite a bargain.
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A whopping $10 premium for a Campag seat pin (eek).....