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Same here. I think I might add some segments today. There only a couple a long my route, and the location isn’t ideal to track my own progress. There is about three locations I would like to add one, also be interesting to see if anyone else is riding the same route as I am. I know one guy who lives in my neighborhood, he follows me on strava, and has started doing my 20 mile route.

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I feel like the phrase "jumped the shark" has jumped the shark. Discuss.

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I used to do this, and possibly still would, but now the free version does not let you look at your historical data. Sad! But not worth $5/month to do this IMO.

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Generally means the time when something (TV show typically) goes from good to bad.
I think we should morph the term into "Jumped the Snark" to get the flavor right.

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To piss off people that are legitimately at the top of the boards? Looks like he did this a few times in the fall, too, so it pre-dates any segment paywall angst. Regardless, it's a weird mindset, to me.
I think that's long been the primary function for most, so I don't see any shark jumping. Obviously, serious cyclists are more interested in segments, leaderboards, improving vs themselves and vs others... but Strava has a lot of casuals. Do you think that you would have stopped looking at segments if they were still laid bare in front of you?

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Same here. I think I might add some segments today. There only a couple a long my route, and the location isn’t ideal to track my own progress. There is about three locations I would like to add one, also be interesting to see if anyone else is riding the same route as I am. I know one guy who lives in my neighborhood, he follows me on strava, and has started doing my 20 mile route.

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I think that's long been the primary function for most, so I don't see any shark jumping. Obviously, serious cyclists are more interested in segments, leaderboards, improving vs themselves and vs others... but Strava has a lot of casuals. Do you think that you would have stopped looking at segments if they were still laid bare in front of you?
My annoyance is that this feature used to be free and now you have to pay for it. This is the ONLY aspect of Strava that I "miss" and I only miss it a smidge, so for me it's not worth getting the paid version (which I know has lots of other features, but I have zero interest in those).
If Strava had 3 tiers, a free version (like now), a basic version that kept the segments for $15/year, and the premium version, I would probably consider getting the basic paid version. But it's their product and they decide what to offer.

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They tried doing segmented subscriptions, similar to what you're talking about, a couple of years ago for $2.99/month, but people didn't go for it. To be fair, you could still view the full segment leaderboard for free, but adding the subscription pack allowed you to filter the leaderboards (gender, age, weight, etc), which didn't seem to be of much value. Now that the segments are behind a paywall, maybe they'll be able to revisit will better success. There does seem to be more levels of interest than "casual" and "OMG, I need my power curve and fitness and freshness, etc, etc" so leveraging that middle ground could be good, but I have a feeling that doing that any time soon would just provoke more ire. Maybe over the winter.
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I keep thinking that I should fire up a game or two, but I always have better things to do with those chunks of time. Still, I feel... remiss in not utilizing the rather nice GPU that I bought in the late fall. I think that I've played 20-30 hours of The Outer Worlds (fun game) after buying the card, but that's about it. Sad.

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I keep thinking that I should fire up a game or two, but I always have better things to do with those chunks of time. Still, I feel... remiss in not utilizing the rather nice GPU that I bought in the late fall. I think that I've played 20-30 hours of The Outer Worlds (fun game) after buying the card, but that's about it. Sad.


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To me, the best part of the Strava Stalk feature (FlyBy) is to check out the routes of people that you cross paths with on the road. Like the person following you, I'm following a handful of locals (that I don't know) primarily to see where they ride so that I can hit up some different stretches of road and tweak some of my own routes. I did a ride with a few guys from my club yesterday, and we covered some new-to-me roads. That, in combination with some route segments from some Stalkees, gave me a route tweak idea and I think that I've pieced together a nice 50 mile route to replace my favorite 45 mile route that was recently squashed due to a bridge closure.
The people that I follow that live by me, do a lot of destination rides. One day they are in smithfield, the next day williamsburg, and following day kiln creek.

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Thunder this early in the afternoon is rare around here.

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datlas, you were asking about battery drain on the Garmin with the Varia. On default settings this morning, I rode a little over two hours with HR, PM, and Varia and my somewhat old 520 only dropped to 85%.

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During the brief period I used Strava, I was the only one on any of the segments. I am one of a handful of recreational road cyclists in the entire state. There are gobs of recreational mtb ers.

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datlas, you were asking about battery drain on the Garmin with the Varia. On default settings this morning, I rode a little over two hours with HR, PM, and Varia and my somewhat old 520 only dropped to 85%.

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