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bent spoke
Hello all, while cleaning the bike noticed a bent spoke on the front wheel. my question is, can I just changed that one spoke, and what tools would I need? Thanks here's a pic.
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If the wheel is true, I'd leave it alone. It won't hurt anything.
To replace the spoke.
As far as a truing stand. You can often find good enough stands for around $100. Some people have homebuilt stands. It is also possible to true the wheel on the bicycle with simple tools.
You can also dish the wheel by flipping it backwards on your bike and checking alignment.
To replace the spoke.
- Remove wheel
- Remove tire
- Remove rim tape (probably).
- Front wheel is easier because you don't need to remove the freewheel/cassette.
- Spoke Wrench to remove spoke.
- Replace Spoke, and possibly nipple.
- Spoke Wrench to get it reasonably tight.
- Something to work as a truing stand to get wheel true
- Some method to double check the dishing.
- Rim tape, Tube, and tire back on and wheel back on bike.
As far as a truing stand. You can often find good enough stands for around $100. Some people have homebuilt stands. It is also possible to true the wheel on the bicycle with simple tools.
You can also dish the wheel by flipping it backwards on your bike and checking alignment.
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Since the spoke did not break it is easy to replace. As you bring it up to tension just pluck adjacent spokes to hear and match the tones.
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Thanks for responding. I'm a newbie at this. I don't even have any basic tools for changing the tire. last time before recently that I rode a bicycle was over 20 years ago. I've ridden the bike a couple of times already, and didn't notice anything obvious with the front end.
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Check for true, mark for monitoring, then ride. I wouldn't replace it if it isn't broken. That's the beauty of having 35 other spokes.
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+1 for leaving it alone if the wheel is true. A couple of my bikes have mildly-bent spokes like that -- you can always replace it later if it actually breaks.
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Yes, you can replace a single spoke. What you need is the spoke length, a spoke wrench, and something to assess "trueness" of the wheel (ideally, a truing stand, but watching the rim as it passes between the brake pads is also sufficient).
But I'm not convinced it actually needs replacement. Check the spoke tension (all the spokes, not just that one). If the tension is low, increasing tension will pull the spoke straight; problem solved. If the tension is already appropriate, it's unlikely that the bend is a real problem, other than cosmetic.
But I'm not convinced it actually needs replacement. Check the spoke tension (all the spokes, not just that one). If the tension is low, increasing tension will pull the spoke straight; problem solved. If the tension is already appropriate, it's unlikely that the bend is a real problem, other than cosmetic.
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Old corroded nipples require a quality spoke wrench. Something many people don't want to buy for a 1 spoke replacement.
Unless you're in a position to true/tension ALL the spokes, it may be best to leave sleeping dogs lie.
IF you want to replace a spoke, buy a NEW nipple with it. With NEW parts, a cheap spoke wrench will probably be adequate to pull things back in place.
I'll just "peel off" frozen, corroded nipples with a vise grip pliers. Don't bother subjecting whatever spoke wrench you have to needless wear & tear.
Unless you're in a position to true/tension ALL the spokes, it may be best to leave sleeping dogs lie.
IF you want to replace a spoke, buy a NEW nipple with it. With NEW parts, a cheap spoke wrench will probably be adequate to pull things back in place.
I'll just "peel off" frozen, corroded nipples with a vise grip pliers. Don't bother subjecting whatever spoke wrench you have to needless wear & tear.
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If the spoke is not damaged - nicked or cut - just press it back straight with your thumb. Check the wheel for trueness after, more than likely it won't change.
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If your wheel is true, I would not do anything with that spoke. How do you think it got bent?
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Old corroded nipples require a quality spoke wrench. Something many people don't want to buy for a 1 spoke replacement.
Unless you're in a position to true/tension ALL the spokes, it may be best to leave sleeping dogs lie.
IF you want to replace a spoke, buy a NEW nipple with it. With NEW parts, a cheap spoke wrench will probably be adequate to pull things back in place.
I'll just "peel off" frozen, corroded nipples with a vise grip pliers. Don't bother subjecting whatever spoke wrench you have to needless wear & tear.
Unless you're in a position to true/tension ALL the spokes, it may be best to leave sleeping dogs lie.
IF you want to replace a spoke, buy a NEW nipple with it. With NEW parts, a cheap spoke wrench will probably be adequate to pull things back in place.
I'll just "peel off" frozen, corroded nipples with a vise grip pliers. Don't bother subjecting whatever spoke wrench you have to needless wear & tear.
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purchased the bike used from a craigslist seller. didn't notice it until I got it home and decided to give it a cleaning. I've got most of the tools in my garage to work on my house, repair my cars and motorcycle, but nothing to work on a bicycle. Guess I'm going to have to buy more "stuff".
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Your bend is probably more of a cosmetic issue that bothers you more than it does the functionality of the wheel. As was mentioned, you can probably bend it back with your thumb and finger. If you do want to replace it, a spoke wrench isn't terribly expensive and if the nipple isn't seized to the spoke, you can probably get by with using a screwdriver as the nipple is likely slotted inside the wheel.
The spoke below I suspect was deliberately bent by someone in the late 60s or early 70s to make up for it being too long when replacing a spoke because the spoke was flush with the nipple when I removed it. Of course don't do this if you decide to change it.
The spoke below I suspect was deliberately bent by someone in the late 60s or early 70s to make up for it being too long when replacing a spoke because the spoke was flush with the nipple when I removed it. Of course don't do this if you decide to change it.
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Hello all again. checked my wheels, and both front and rear wheels are rubbing against the brake pads. I've watch a bunch of youtube videos and I'm confused. most of them say to loosen the spokes, you turn clockwise, and to tighten, counter clockwise. one video, the guy says the opposite. so, which way is it? also, some say that you can either loosen one side, or tighten the opposite side to pull the wheel away from the opposing side. other videos say to do both, to loosen one side, then tighten the other side. some of the videos show them using zip ties to find the gap. what's your opinions on this method? Thanks again.
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Hello all again. checked my wheels, and both front and rear wheels are rubbing against the brake pads. I've watch a bunch of youtube videos and I'm confused. most of them say to loosen the spokes, you turn clockwise, and to tighten, counter clockwise. one video, the guy says the opposite. so, which way is it? also, some say that you can either loosen one side, or tighten the opposite side to pull the wheel away from the opposing side. other videos say to do both, to loosen one side, then tighten the other side. some of the videos show them using zip ties to find the gap. what's your opinions on this method? Thanks again.
You can adjust most brakes both side-to-side, as well as space between the pads. More photos help.
As far as clockwise/counterclockwise. The spokes use ordinary right-hand threads.
Consider the nipple like a nut on a bolt.
- Nipple at the top of the wheel, then clockwise will shorten/tighten the spoke.
- Nipple at the bottom of the wheel, then clockwise will in effect lengthen/loosen the spoke.
If you always loosen and tighten opposite sides of a pair of nipples, you run less of a chance of inducing a hop in the wheel which can be a pain to work out.
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- "Nipple at the top of the wheel, then clockwise will shorten/tighten the spoke.
- Nipple at the bottom of the wheel, then clockwise will in effect lengthen/loosen the spoke." Thanks. I think I'm going to stick with the 12 o'clock position. I always used the "righty, tighty" method.
it only rubs on a certain area on the rims.
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Just got a spoke wrench that I ordered on line. None of the sizes fit the spoke. Are there other sizes? Here’s a pic.
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The spoke wrench must have a VERY SNUG fit onto the nipple. If it is loose, you'll destroy the nipple in a heartbeat.
Photo of the nipple?
Park spoke wrenches are very popular.
Those with the band on the handle wrap around the spoke a little, and are better for very tight nipples.
Unfortunately, if you don't know the size, or are working on multiple wheels, you end up with a set.
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- Nipple at the top of the wheel, then clockwise will shorten/tighten the spoke.
- Nipple at the bottom of the wheel, then clockwise will in effect lengthen/loosen the spoke. how do I determine what size the nipples are? I have a marin hybrid bike. Thanks
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Here’s a pic. of the spoke. The sizing of the wrench is either too small, or too big. contacted the company, hopefully they'll know.
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the bike company got back to me and they recommend two sizes in the park tool wrenches. will see when I get them on sat. in the meantime, will spray some penetrating oil on them. doesn't look like they've been touched in awhile.
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It sure beats 99% waste/clean up.
Liquid Wrench comes in a can of fluid with the "pointy" spout. (Save spare cans. You can make people think you wrote their name in the snow by use of various colored fluids)