NOS 1985 Bianchi F+F model unknown
03-26-23, 04:23 PM
#1
Newbie
Thread Starter
NOS 1985 Bianchi F+F model unknown
I have a NOS 1985 Bianchi frameset. The bb is stamped on the bottom, 337 on one side and C56 on the other. Any help would be appreciated and I値l upload all the pics i can.
03-26-23, 08:28 PM
#2
Friendship is Magic
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Sacramento, CA
Posts: 22,984
Bikes: old ones
Mentioned: 304 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 26402 Post(s)
Liked 10,374 Times
in
7,203 Posts
.
...you can look at the Bianchi catalogs for the 1980's at the links in the catalogs thread, here:
The Official Vintage Bicycle Manufacturer Catalog List w/Links - Bike Forums
There's at least one link to 1985, if you're sure on the dating. I've never seen a Bianchi from the 1980's that was sold as a bare frame.
I'm sure it's possible, but all I've ever seen from the '80's were sold as complete bikes. Bare frames usually came from other Italian makers. in my somewhat limited experience.
...you can look at the Bianchi catalogs for the 1980's at the links in the catalogs thread, here:
The Official Vintage Bicycle Manufacturer Catalog List w/Links - Bike Forums
There's at least one link to 1985, if you're sure on the dating. I've never seen a Bianchi from the 1980's that was sold as a bare frame.
I'm sure it's possible, but all I've ever seen from the '80's were sold as complete bikes. Bare frames usually came from other Italian makers. in my somewhat limited experience.
__________________
03-26-23, 08:36 PM
#3
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Louisville, KY
Posts: 13,444
Mentioned: 33 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4232 Post(s)
Liked 2,947 Times
in
1,806 Posts
That is a very clean looking frame.
03-27-23, 04:28 AM
#4
Newbie
Thread Starter
.
...you can look at the Bianchi catalogs for the 1980's at the links in the catalogs thread, here:
The Official Vintage Bicycle Manufacturer Catalog List w/Links - Bike Forums
There's at least one link to 1985, if you're sure on the dating. I've never seen a Bianchi from the 1980's that was sold as a bare frame.
I'm sure it's possible, but all I've ever seen from the '80's were sold as complete bikes. Bare frames usually came from other Italian makers. in my somewhat limited experience.
...you can look at the Bianchi catalogs for the 1980's at the links in the catalogs thread, here:
The Official Vintage Bicycle Manufacturer Catalog List w/Links - Bike Forums
There's at least one link to 1985, if you're sure on the dating. I've never seen a Bianchi from the 1980's that was sold as a bare frame.
I'm sure it's possible, but all I've ever seen from the '80's were sold as complete bikes. Bare frames usually came from other Italian makers. in my somewhat limited experience.
I haven稚 been able to find just a frame and fork in any of the scans either and trust me I致e been looking. The bb shell has 85 cast into so I think calling it 1985 is a safe bet.
03-27-23, 08:00 AM
#5
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 3,293
Mentioned: 39 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1140 Post(s)
Liked 1,736 Times
in
957 Posts
That one is one of the better of the models of its day. I say because it has chrome, stay and forks and it has the fd braze on. I had a lower end of that color Cromor or Matrix tubing this was.
I think what I had was '86
I think what I had was '86
03-27-23, 09:35 AM
#6
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Fairplay Co
Posts: 9,517
Bikes: Current 79 Nishiki Custum Sport, Jeunet 620, notable previous bikes P.K. Ripper loop tail, Kawahara Laser Lite, Paramount Track full chrome, Raliegh Internatioanl, Motobecan Super Mirage. 59 Crown royak 3 speed
Mentioned: 26 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 790 Post(s)
Liked 1,760 Times
in
634 Posts
The frame looks very good condition yet I wouldn't consider it NOS. Does look to have been a complete bike at some point that someone tore down without riding much or at all kinda interesting.
03-27-23, 10:03 AM
#7
Newbie
Thread Starter
Likes For Kevin537:
03-27-23, 12:01 PM
#8
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 3,504
Mentioned: 9 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 586 Post(s)
Liked 612 Times
in
447 Posts
It is in great condition and whether it is NOS with shop wear or previously built really doesn't matter much in my opinion. I also like the color. I know Celeste is all the rage but this color really pops in my opinion.
Regarding value, all I can say is the seller will likely get less than I think it is worth.
Regarding value, all I can say is the seller will likely get less than I think it is worth.
Likes For TugaDude:
03-27-23, 02:47 PM
#9
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Point Reyes Station, California
Posts: 4,527
Bikes: Indeed!
Mentioned: 92 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1507 Post(s)
Liked 3,469 Times
in
1,131 Posts
Someone really ought to page @Bianchigirll for her take on this.
Brent
Brent
__________________
"I have a tendency to meander sometimes." B.G.
"I have a tendency to meander sometimes." B.G.
03-27-23, 02:59 PM
#10
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Baltimore, MD
Posts: 5,371
Mentioned: 15 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2482 Post(s)
Liked 2,952 Times
in
1,677 Posts
Might have been one of the frames Bianchi kept in stock for warranty replacements and later sold off when newer frame models were introduced.
03-27-23, 05:07 PM
#11
Newbie
Thread Starter
went unbuilt?
03-28-23, 10:11 AM
#12
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 4,485
Mentioned: 102 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1639 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 829 Times
in
538 Posts
Columbus SL,....... Chrome at fork and both rear stays,
It's a pretty good one, IYAM.....
The only thing missing on the Bianchi fan checklist is the Celeste color.
But it doesn't hurt to be different from the crowd, once in a while....
It's a pretty good one, IYAM.....
The only thing missing on the Bianchi fan checklist is the Celeste color.
But it doesn't hurt to be different from the crowd, once in a while....
__________________
72 Line Seeker
83 Davidson Signature
84 Peugeot PSV
84 Peugeot PY10FC
84 Gitane Tour de France.
85 Vitus Plus Carbone 7
86 ALAN Record Carbonio
86 Medici Aerodynamic (Project)
88 Pinarello Montello
89 Bottecchia Professional Chorus SL
95 Trek 5500 OCLV (Project)
72 Line Seeker
83 Davidson Signature
84 Peugeot PSV
84 Peugeot PY10FC
84 Gitane Tour de France.
85 Vitus Plus Carbone 7
86 ALAN Record Carbonio
86 Medici Aerodynamic (Project)
88 Pinarello Montello
89 Bottecchia Professional Chorus SL
95 Trek 5500 OCLV (Project)
Likes For Chombi1:
03-28-23, 12:49 PM
#13
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 3,504
Mentioned: 9 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 586 Post(s)
Liked 612 Times
in
447 Posts
I see no need to polish the chrome in that area. The brakes, when installed ,would render that area of the fork invisible. I doubt that was considered defective, and I certainly don't.
03-29-23, 01:55 AM
#14
Edumacator
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Goose Creek, SC
Posts: 6,801
Bikes: '87 Crestdale, '87 Basso Gap, '92 Rossin Performance EL-OS, 1990 VanTuyl, 1980s Losa, 1985 Trek 670, 1982 AD SLE, 1987 PX10, etc...
Mentioned: 59 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2436 Post(s)
Liked 3,119 Times
in
1,962 Posts
That is an impressive Bianchi. All of the embossments are cool. Are the seat stay caps stickered or engraved?
Is this a possible alternate market Bianchi?
Is this a possible alternate market Bianchi?
__________________
1987 Crest Cannondale, 1987 Basso Gap, 1992 Rossin Performance EL, 1990ish Van Tuyl, 1985 Trek 670, 1982 AD SLE, 2003 Pinarello Surprise, 1990ish MBK Atlantique, 1987 Peugeot Competition, 1987 Nishiki Tri-A, 1981 Faggin, 1996 Cannondale M500, 1984 Mercian, 1982 AD SuperLeicht, 1985 Massi (model unknown), 1988 Daccordi Griffe , 1989 Fauxsin MTB, 1981 Ciocc Mockba, 1992 Bianchi Giro, 1977 Colnago Super
1987 Crest Cannondale, 1987 Basso Gap, 1992 Rossin Performance EL, 1990ish Van Tuyl, 1985 Trek 670, 1982 AD SLE, 2003 Pinarello Surprise, 1990ish MBK Atlantique, 1987 Peugeot Competition, 1987 Nishiki Tri-A, 1981 Faggin, 1996 Cannondale M500, 1984 Mercian, 1982 AD SuperLeicht, 1985 Massi (model unknown), 1988 Daccordi Griffe , 1989 Fauxsin MTB, 1981 Ciocc Mockba, 1992 Bianchi Giro, 1977 Colnago Super
03-29-23, 04:33 AM
#15
Newbie
Thread Starter
03-29-23, 04:15 PM
#16
Newbie
Thread Starter
I致e been through all the catalogs and other scans I can find online and can稚 find anything exactly matching this set. Is it possible that it was some sort of team frame or something? I致e heard Bianchigirll is the authority on this stuff how do we send the beacon out to her lol.
03-30-23, 11:07 AM
#17
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Fairplay Co
Posts: 9,517
Bikes: Current 79 Nishiki Custum Sport, Jeunet 620, notable previous bikes P.K. Ripper loop tail, Kawahara Laser Lite, Paramount Track full chrome, Raliegh Internatioanl, Motobecan Super Mirage. 59 Crown royak 3 speed
Mentioned: 26 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 790 Post(s)
Liked 1,760 Times
in
634 Posts
While near perfect and likely %100 original IMHO the robins egg blue is bit unique I can't really say I have seen this paint on another bike.
03-31-23, 08:19 AM
#18
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Fredericksburg, Va
Posts: 9,579
Bikes: '65 Frejus TDF, '73 Bottecchia Giro d'Italia, '83 Colnago Superissimo, '84 Trek 610, '84 Trek 760, '88 Pinarello Veneto, '88 De Rosa Pro, '89 Pinarello Montello, '94 Burley Duet, 97 Specialized RockHopper, 2010 Langster, Tern Link D8
Mentioned: 73 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1607 Post(s)
Liked 2,216 Times
in
1,103 Posts
Reparto Corsa indicates a top line frame set as that build is in a [size=13px]separate[/size] building specifically for custom and top end frame builds.
If built, I would have expected the cable to have removed some of the paint in the guides of the BB shell.
The HS looks like Super Record.
Nice find! I find it exceptional.
@Kevin537 How about a pic of the seat cluster, especially the stay caps?
If built, I would have expected the cable to have removed some of the paint in the guides of the BB shell.
The HS looks like Super Record.
Nice find! I find it exceptional.
@Kevin537 How about a pic of the seat cluster, especially the stay caps?
__________________
Bikes don't stand alone. They are two tired.
Bikes don't stand alone. They are two tired.
Last edited by SJX426; 03-31-23 at 08:22 AM.
03-31-23, 10:21 AM
#20
Newbie
Thread Starter
I知 having a hardtime parting with this one. I think I might just look at it for awhile before I sell it but something like this definitely needs to find its way back on the road. I値l get some better pics this afternoon when I get home.
03-31-23, 12:38 PM
#22
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Fairplay Co
Posts: 9,517
Bikes: Current 79 Nishiki Custum Sport, Jeunet 620, notable previous bikes P.K. Ripper loop tail, Kawahara Laser Lite, Paramount Track full chrome, Raliegh Internatioanl, Motobecan Super Mirage. 59 Crown royak 3 speed
Mentioned: 26 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 790 Post(s)
Liked 1,760 Times
in
634 Posts
Wag guess I would say there were less than 1000 of these frames made and maybe 100 so made it there way to US bike dealers.
03-31-23, 04:23 PM
#23
Newbie
Thread Starter
Reparto Corsa indicates a top line frame set as that build is in a [size=13px]separate[/size] building specifically for custom and top end frame builds.
If built, I would have expected the cable to have removed some of the paint in the guides of the BB shell.
The HS looks like Super Record.
Nice find! I find it exceptional.
@Kevin537 How about a pic of the seat cluster, especially the stay caps?
If built, I would have expected the cable to have removed some of the paint in the guides of the BB shell.
The HS looks like Super Record.
Nice find! I find it exceptional.
@Kevin537 How about a pic of the seat cluster, especially the stay caps?
Likes For Kevin537:
04-01-23, 05:52 AM
#24
Edumacator
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Goose Creek, SC
Posts: 6,801
Bikes: '87 Crestdale, '87 Basso Gap, '92 Rossin Performance EL-OS, 1990 VanTuyl, 1980s Losa, 1985 Trek 670, 1982 AD SLE, 1987 PX10, etc...
Mentioned: 59 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2436 Post(s)
Liked 3,119 Times
in
1,962 Posts
Honestly, this might be the coolest 80s Bianchi I have ever seen.
(1) The bottom bracket shell is pure art
(2) Chrome fork crown sculpted
(3) Love the stay caps
Is it around 53cm? Bianchis are tough to estimate. The head tubes are longer for their sizes...
(1) The bottom bracket shell is pure art
(2) Chrome fork crown sculpted
(3) Love the stay caps
Is it around 53cm? Bianchis are tough to estimate. The head tubes are longer for their sizes...
__________________
1987 Crest Cannondale, 1987 Basso Gap, 1992 Rossin Performance EL, 1990ish Van Tuyl, 1985 Trek 670, 1982 AD SLE, 2003 Pinarello Surprise, 1990ish MBK Atlantique, 1987 Peugeot Competition, 1987 Nishiki Tri-A, 1981 Faggin, 1996 Cannondale M500, 1984 Mercian, 1982 AD SuperLeicht, 1985 Massi (model unknown), 1988 Daccordi Griffe , 1989 Fauxsin MTB, 1981 Ciocc Mockba, 1992 Bianchi Giro, 1977 Colnago Super
1987 Crest Cannondale, 1987 Basso Gap, 1992 Rossin Performance EL, 1990ish Van Tuyl, 1985 Trek 670, 1982 AD SLE, 2003 Pinarello Surprise, 1990ish MBK Atlantique, 1987 Peugeot Competition, 1987 Nishiki Tri-A, 1981 Faggin, 1996 Cannondale M500, 1984 Mercian, 1982 AD SuperLeicht, 1985 Massi (model unknown), 1988 Daccordi Griffe , 1989 Fauxsin MTB, 1981 Ciocc Mockba, 1992 Bianchi Giro, 1977 Colnago Super
04-01-23, 01:34 PM
#25
Junior Member
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Ontario
Posts: 148
Bikes: Road: 1972 Raleigh Competition,1989 Marinoni, 1990 Limongi. MTN: 1990 GT Team Avalanche, 1991 Rocky Mountain Blizzard, GT Team RTS , Rocky Mountain MSL 50 Element, CCM fat bike
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 35 Post(s)
Liked 81 Times
in
50 Posts
Beautiful bike. It looks like the Giro model in the 1985 catalog
1985 Bianchi catalog
This article about the Celeste or black Bianchi x4 shows the many of the same features. Is the tubing on your bike SLX with rifling inside the tubes at the bottom bracket?
1985 Bianchi catalog
This article about the Celeste or black Bianchi x4 shows the many of the same features. Is the tubing on your bike SLX with rifling inside the tubes at the bottom bracket?
Last edited by Paul Waque; 04-01-23 at 01:51 PM. Reason: added xr4 article link