How to interpret Craigslist/eBay ads
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How to interpret Craigslist/eBay ads
Borrowed from another forum, but so apt!
Feel free to ad to the list.
There are good. Yours might be even better. Lets see what you got!
Feel free to ad to the list.
There are good. Yours might be even better. Lets see what you got!
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"ideal base for a restoration" = expect a pile of rust foam held together by body filler or paint
"As I know it belonged to a famous cyclist" = I want way more more momo than what it worths
"It is so rare it doesnt even have serial no." = rarely legit often stolen
"it must be a prototype" = the first 2 pages of google didnt show it
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Recent Tune-up = Sprayed some WD-40 on the chain and put air in the tires (aligning the valve stems optional).
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I know what I've got = has no idea, and way over priced
No longer for sale after Sunday = garbage pick up is Monday
No longer for sale after Sunday = garbage pick up is Monday
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Needs tubes: Tires are flat from sitting and I don't have a tire pump.
Fork's not bent: Fork and frame are bent.
Slight surface rust: You'll need a tetanus shot.
Needs TLC: All the love in the world won't fix what's wrong with this bike.
Ground-up restoration: Ground up restoration.
Serious inquiries only: Seller lacks a sense of humor.
No tire kickers: Bike would fall apart if you kicked it.
Fork's not bent: Fork and frame are bent.
Slight surface rust: You'll need a tetanus shot.
Needs TLC: All the love in the world won't fix what's wrong with this bike.
Ground-up restoration: Ground up restoration.
Serious inquiries only: Seller lacks a sense of humor.
No tire kickers: Bike would fall apart if you kicked it.
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Sold new for over $1,000 - I got it at a garage sale for $28.
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ready to ride, just needs cleaned up=been sitting outside for a decade
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Barn Find: Covered in many years accumulation of dust, mildew, and unspeakably disgusting insect and animal droppings.
Peugeot PX-10: UO-8
Lightweight: Lighter than a Varsity.
Patina: See barn find.
Peugeot PX-10: UO-8
Lightweight: Lighter than a Varsity.
Patina: See barn find.
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1982 Colnago Super, 1987 Bottecchia Team C-Record,
1988 Pinarello Montello, 1990 Masi Nuova Strada Super Record,
1995 Bianchi Campione d'Italia, 1995 DeBernardi Thron
My C&V Bikes:
1972 Bottecchia Professional, 1972 Legnano Olympiade Record,
1982 Colnago Super, 1987 Bottecchia Team C-Record,
1988 Pinarello Montello, 1990 Masi Nuova Strada Super Record,
1995 Bianchi Campione d'Italia, 1995 DeBernardi Thron
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My favorite is “Tires hold air”…..ummmmm No!! On the vintage bikes I buy, tubes hold air and “tires hold air” means tires are certainly dry rotted to a crisp and dangerous to ride. Just say they’re rotted when you know that they are. The disingenuousness of this statement infuriates me.
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"Bike for sale" = A glimmer of hope.
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Needs new tires = needs new wheels
Needs new rims = needs new wheels
Needs new tubes = needs new wheels
Will meet at [local transit hub] = stolen
Needs peddles = stolen
Needs breaks = stolen
Schwinn = Trek
Needs new rims = needs new wheels
Needs new tubes = needs new wheels
Will meet at [local transit hub] = stolen
Needs peddles = stolen
Needs breaks = stolen
Schwinn = Trek
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Reluctant sale = I forgot I had it
Campognola components = I can’t read
I have too many bikes = my wife said I have too many bikes
Campognola components = I can’t read
I have too many bikes = my wife said I have too many bikes
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my fav: Serious inquiries only: Seller lacks a sense of humor.
I'm going to use that
I'm going to use that
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Tire tread is still good. = Sidewalls are threadbare and crumbly.
No kickstand. = They would have put one on if they knew how (thank god (not all of these have to be bad))
Tires are flat I don't have the pump that works with them. = Bring a presta compatible pump.
Comfy seat. = Gel-bloated aftermarket abomination that weighs 8 pounds and is the size of a wedding cake. Do they ever have the original saddle? No.
Tires like new. = Flipper that loves to use tire shine. Hope you hate traction!
No price, just OBO = They're rubbing their hands together dreaming of a fevered bidding war.
Top of the line. = Mid-range at the very best.
Studded tires included. = Retired and probably very rusty winter beater.
Hybrid = Rigid mtb
Road bike = Rigid mtb with slick tires
Touring bike = Regular road bike
Compare to Surly = Steel bike.
Mentions Grant Peterson in ad text = Bridgestone Tax helpfully included
Mentions bicycle color in ad title = Couldn't think of any remotely useful info to add.
Included disclaimer that the bike photos they used aren't of the actual bike for sale. = They enjoy wasting everyone's time.
Pedals and Brooks saddle not included. = They didn't want to retake photos sans those items.
Ad for Viscount that mentions the Death Fork. = They realize they have an uphill battle selling this, but put a premium price on it anyways.
Collectible = Hoarders collect old newspapers and jars of urine- so what?
Must take all. = One semi-interesting bike and the rest are BSO trash. Or one men's cruiser and matching ladies cruiser.
Fugi = Fuji
No kickstand. = They would have put one on if they knew how (thank god (not all of these have to be bad))
Tires are flat I don't have the pump that works with them. = Bring a presta compatible pump.
Comfy seat. = Gel-bloated aftermarket abomination that weighs 8 pounds and is the size of a wedding cake. Do they ever have the original saddle? No.
Tires like new. = Flipper that loves to use tire shine. Hope you hate traction!
No price, just OBO = They're rubbing their hands together dreaming of a fevered bidding war.
Top of the line. = Mid-range at the very best.
Studded tires included. = Retired and probably very rusty winter beater.
Hybrid = Rigid mtb
Road bike = Rigid mtb with slick tires
Touring bike = Regular road bike
Compare to Surly = Steel bike.
Mentions Grant Peterson in ad text = Bridgestone Tax helpfully included
Mentions bicycle color in ad title = Couldn't think of any remotely useful info to add.
Included disclaimer that the bike photos they used aren't of the actual bike for sale. = They enjoy wasting everyone's time.
Pedals and Brooks saddle not included. = They didn't want to retake photos sans those items.
Ad for Viscount that mentions the Death Fork. = They realize they have an uphill battle selling this, but put a premium price on it anyways.
Collectible = Hoarders collect old newspapers and jars of urine- so what?
Must take all. = One semi-interesting bike and the rest are BSO trash. Or one men's cruiser and matching ladies cruiser.
Fugi = Fuji
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RARE = no one ever wanted one of these back in the day.
CLASSIC = Not classic
VINTAGE = Old POS
Collectible = By the garbage man.
Top of the Line = Best of the box store junk.
,Patina = rust bucket
Sells on ebay for $1000 = saw some crazy seller ASKING $1000 for a similar bike once.
No low ballers = delusional seller, thinks he has gold, but its really crap.
Frame size 56 inches = I don't understand metric (I see this A LOT)!
Custom build = took 3 bikes out of the trash and cobbled them into one.
REDUCED MUST SELL! = I was asking 10 times market value, now I am asking 5 times. I see this a lot.
Gravel bike = drug it behind my truck down a gravel road.
CLASSIC = Not classic
VINTAGE = Old POS
Collectible = By the garbage man.
Top of the Line = Best of the box store junk.
,Patina = rust bucket
Sells on ebay for $1000 = saw some crazy seller ASKING $1000 for a similar bike once.
No low ballers = delusional seller, thinks he has gold, but its really crap.
Frame size 56 inches = I don't understand metric (I see this A LOT)!
Custom build = took 3 bikes out of the trash and cobbled them into one.
REDUCED MUST SELL! = I was asking 10 times market value, now I am asking 5 times. I see this a lot.
Gravel bike = drug it behind my truck down a gravel road.
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size 26" = 700c
27" tires = 700c
28" tires = 700c
26" wheels = 700c
25" wheels = 700c
55cm = measured from the TOP of bottom bracket to the center of seat/top tube
55cm = top tube measurement
55cm = measured from center of bottom bracket to center of top tube, but vertically, ie not along the seat tube.
Good for 5'4" to 6' = no, it isn't
27" tires = 700c
28" tires = 700c
26" wheels = 700c
25" wheels = 700c
55cm = measured from the TOP of bottom bracket to the center of seat/top tube
55cm = top tube measurement
55cm = measured from center of bottom bracket to center of top tube, but vertically, ie not along the seat tube.
Good for 5'4" to 6' = no, it isn't
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Actually, I ALWAYS meet the buyer at a public, and well-attended, location. Both for privacy and safety.
Or = scam ad, seller has no actual bike to sell
= I'm too lazy to go and look at the bike to get the spelling right
Also applies to wheel size 700cc or 700cm. Pray that the seller's job is not in any science, technology or engineering industry.
Fugi = Fuji
Also applies to wheel size 700cc or 700cm. Pray that the seller's job is not in any science, technology or engineering industry.
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"Don't you hate Craigslist and eBay?"
"Yeah, so many flakes and know nothings."
"By the way, that's a really cool vintage bike. Where'd ya you get it?"
"Thanks! Oh, this one? Uh, Craigslist. I love it."
"Yeah, so many flakes and know nothings."
"By the way, that's a really cool vintage bike. Where'd ya you get it?"
"Thanks! Oh, this one? Uh, Craigslist. I love it."
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I really like the 'very rare' and 'sought after' listings that have the marque spelled wrong. And the many, many, many 'record du monde' model Peugeots....
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I'm <this or that> tall and it fits me well. (usually 54-55cm frames sold by 1,80-1,90 m tall persons)
Preferred delivery method: Local Pickup or Shipping --> "I have never shipped a thing and never will". or even better, "I ship.... but not to Germany"
Custom: rattle canned, or mismatched parts
Preferred delivery method: Local Pickup or Shipping --> "I have never shipped a thing and never will". or even better, "I ship.... but not to Germany"
Custom: rattle canned, or mismatched parts
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Another definition of "rare": It's the only one I have.
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Custom: This bike is made up of a bunch of different parts made by a bunch of different manufacturers, and I either don't know what they are, or don't want to take the time to list them all. Probably also involves totally wrong/excessive stickers and spray paint. This grouping also includes the subcategory of "Costom" which is a department store BMX bike. These are frequently covered in spray paint, with a 1” quill stem maxed out above the insertion line, bars tilted forward 45 degrees or more, and 9:15 gearing. Chain is also usually partially painted. Stock brakes removed because that’s how kids ride today. 90% chance the front rim is radial laced and spray painted also.
Rare: rusty as a *****, I don't have time to get busy with some Scotchbrite or some CLR. Adds to the "character" of the bike, whatever that means.
Vintage: (they love to throw this one around in hopes of catching some doofus hipster) Just plain old, as in I rode it in high school, I'm now 63 years old. It's been sitting in garage ever since.
One of a kind: Sure, they made millions of Univegas, but THIS one is special. Special like I cut a thousand football fields worth of grass to buy it back in 1981. So it's real special. To me, only. And now it can be yours!
Old School: It's from 1998.
Restored: similar to "Custom", but with the use of 60 grit sandpaper.
Like New: My kid rode it a few times and it's been sitting in the garage with crap piled on it for years.
$$ Needed: Got any meth?
Just needs a new tire: ...and a new front hub, and all bearings repacked, and a chain, and brake cables...
Pick up only, no delivery: I'm on my third DWI
80's BMX: Huffy, Kent, Royce Union, Team Murray, Ross, Columbia or Free Spirit.
Need gone ASAP: I won't stop double posting until it sells for 2x it's value.
Firm: Don't bother emailing, I'm tired of responding to reasonable offers.
No Lowball Offers: I don't want informed buyers telling me I am selling a POS for big bucks.
Unbranded parts: Cheap parts that I don't even know what they are (or are embarrassed to say).
Will clean up nice: I can't break it down because the hardware is stripped or seized due to rust.
Taking offers: looking for free expert appraisal but not actually willing to sell
Barn find: bought it yesterday on CL for $50 now it is $500. Alternatively, may be covered in manure.
No lowballers, I know what it is worth: Checked the sold listings on eBay and found a pristine example of something that is the same make (not model) as this rust bucket being listed on CL
Paid $X at local bike store: Still fuming that the bike traveled more miles in the trunk of the car on the way home from the bike shop, than their child ever rode it
Freestyle BMX: Hardware store bicycle with no gears. Most likely has bent pegs and weighs at least 38 lbs
Recently tuned up at bikeshop: I ran it under a hose and inflated the tires.
Old racing 10 speed: 70s 'bike boom' road bike with a heavy hi-ten frame, rear wheel dork disk, stem mounted shift levers, steel rims, cottered cranks, and turkey wing safety brake levers. From a brand you've never heard of.
Rare: rusty as a *****, I don't have time to get busy with some Scotchbrite or some CLR. Adds to the "character" of the bike, whatever that means.
Vintage: (they love to throw this one around in hopes of catching some doofus hipster) Just plain old, as in I rode it in high school, I'm now 63 years old. It's been sitting in garage ever since.
One of a kind: Sure, they made millions of Univegas, but THIS one is special. Special like I cut a thousand football fields worth of grass to buy it back in 1981. So it's real special. To me, only. And now it can be yours!
Old School: It's from 1998.
Restored: similar to "Custom", but with the use of 60 grit sandpaper.
Like New: My kid rode it a few times and it's been sitting in the garage with crap piled on it for years.
$$ Needed: Got any meth?
Just needs a new tire: ...and a new front hub, and all bearings repacked, and a chain, and brake cables...
Pick up only, no delivery: I'm on my third DWI
80's BMX: Huffy, Kent, Royce Union, Team Murray, Ross, Columbia or Free Spirit.
Need gone ASAP: I won't stop double posting until it sells for 2x it's value.
Firm: Don't bother emailing, I'm tired of responding to reasonable offers.
No Lowball Offers: I don't want informed buyers telling me I am selling a POS for big bucks.
Unbranded parts: Cheap parts that I don't even know what they are (or are embarrassed to say).
Will clean up nice: I can't break it down because the hardware is stripped or seized due to rust.
Taking offers: looking for free expert appraisal but not actually willing to sell
Barn find: bought it yesterday on CL for $50 now it is $500. Alternatively, may be covered in manure.
No lowballers, I know what it is worth: Checked the sold listings on eBay and found a pristine example of something that is the same make (not model) as this rust bucket being listed on CL
Paid $X at local bike store: Still fuming that the bike traveled more miles in the trunk of the car on the way home from the bike shop, than their child ever rode it
Freestyle BMX: Hardware store bicycle with no gears. Most likely has bent pegs and weighs at least 38 lbs
Recently tuned up at bikeshop: I ran it under a hose and inflated the tires.
Old racing 10 speed: 70s 'bike boom' road bike with a heavy hi-ten frame, rear wheel dork disk, stem mounted shift levers, steel rims, cottered cranks, and turkey wing safety brake levers. From a brand you've never heard of.
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26mm clamp: Removed from bicycle with drop bars
French Threads I: Removed from Peugeot
French Threads II: Part is clearly labeled “Made in France”
French Stem: French Brand
26mm clamp: Removed from bicycle with drop bars
French Threads I: Removed from Peugeot
French Threads II: Part is clearly labeled “Made in France”
French Stem: French Brand
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