Going Lighter on Tour
05-03-23, 10:11 AM
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I can't figure that out, is that a frame pack? I do not see an aluminum frame, but some aspects to the pack look like the packs we carried 40 years ago. I always tried to strap my tent on top of the pack or inside it near the top, but it looks like it is strapped on where there often was a crampon leather patch, if that is a frame pack.
In my part of USA red flags like that are used to mark where power lines are buried, so when you excavate you can miss cutting a power cable that was marked with paint and those red flags. Whomever is walking on a glacier, I doubt that they are marking electric line locations.
In my part of USA red flags like that are used to mark where power lines are buried, so when you excavate you can miss cutting a power cable that was marked with paint and those red flags. Whomever is walking on a glacier, I doubt that they are marking electric line locations.
05-03-23, 05:31 PM
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A little OT. It is an internal frame pack( aluminum stays), and weighs about 60 lbs as loaded. The pack is large! It seems to me that it has about a 6000+ cu. in. capacity. The yellow bag on the lower-back of the pack is a 60 meter rope (about 10 lbs). My sleeping bag fits into the bottom of the pack.
The "red flags" are route marking wands used for glacier travel. They are about 3 feet long, 1/4" diameter bamboo poles. I added the bright orange flags to differentiate our wands from other parties' wands. They are also more visible in bad conditions.
The pack weighs a lot less once camp was set up.
The "red flags" are route marking wands used for glacier travel. They are about 3 feet long, 1/4" diameter bamboo poles. I added the bright orange flags to differentiate our wands from other parties' wands. They are also more visible in bad conditions.
The pack weighs a lot less once camp was set up.
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05-04-23, 03:15 AM
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A little OT. It is an internal frame pack( aluminum stays), and weighs about 60 lbs as loaded. The pack is large! It seems to me that it has about a 6000+ cu. in. capacity. The yellow bag on the lower-back of the pack is a 60 meter rope (about 10 lbs). My sleeping bag fits into the bottom of the pack.
The "red flags" are route marking wands used for glacier travel. They are about 3 feet long, 1/4" diameter bamboo poles. I added the bright orange flags to differentiate our wands from other parties' wands. They are also more visible in bad conditions.
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The pack weighs a lot less once camp was set up.
The "red flags" are route marking wands used for glacier travel. They are about 3 feet long, 1/4" diameter bamboo poles. I added the bright orange flags to differentiate our wands from other parties' wands. They are also more visible in bad conditions.
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The pack weighs a lot less once camp was set up.
6000 cubic inches would be about 98 liters.
For decades I used a 115 liter Seal Line Pro Pack for canoe trips on or near the Minnesota Canadian border on trips that were a week and a half long. But the longest we might have to carry a pack in any one day was only rarely more than a half mile. Most of the distance was paddling, not backpacking.
05-04-23, 09:49 PM
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I've seen some AT ultralighters with 10,9, even 8lb base weights and 25L or smaller backpacks. You actually don't need a lot of volume for bike touring/bike packing if resupply is easy and you use cages for your water bottles. I get by with a 15L saddlebag and a 7L handlebar bag, but I can expand the saddlebag if necessary and carry a nylon backpack for off bike and emergency extra volume ie carrying beer for short distances.
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