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Old 05-27-23, 08:53 AM
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Me on the first Merz cycle! 1961
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John Slawta - LandShark bikes (started in Orange County Ca )

Jim Holly of Griffon bikes Santa Monica

Art Stump of A.D. Stump in Santa Monica

Slawta was and is the most prolific builder of the three just noted.
Jim moved to NZ
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Very interesting map and a great resource! Hunter Cycles in California is missing too. Rick has been building bikes since 1992, awesome handmade frames that are coveted in many bike fields from bike packing to racing. He's won at NAHBS, he's had longtime collaboration with Nitto. My Hunter track is my favorite American made bike.

But since you posted here, I will offer this feedback:
What keeps me from getting this map (and the others in your lineup) is the giant bubble font corsaclassic.com taking up all that space at the bottom. It's visually distracting and takes up so much real estate it leaves no space on that map. No room to breathe.
In visual art the Greeks who were masters of classic design had a term for this: "horror vaqui" fear of empty space.
Besides, I don't see how the .com is going to get you any more web traffic when your maps are displayed in people's homes, bike dens.
Still a worthy piece and I applaud your work.

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And one notable addition, REDLINE. This opens up a whole other can of worms. Classic what? If you are going to include Linn Kastan's company, then what about Cook Brothers, PK Ripper, Hutch? Hey, I own a Redline just think that belongs on another map
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Hans Schneider in Huntsville, Texas (still in business) and Skip Hujsak from Wimberley, Texas are missing.
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I don’t see Brian Chapman out of Providence, RI, there.
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Originally Posted by Biketiger
Very interesting map and a great resource! Hunter Cycles in California is missing too. Rick has been building bikes since 1992, awesome handmade frames that are coveted in many bike fields from bike packing to racing. He's won at NAHBS, he's had longtime collaboration with Nitto. My Hunter track is my favorite American made bike.
A much bigger omission is Dave Moulton. He started off in California (previously working in NJ) working for Masi, then started his own brand, mentored Tesch, created another well known brand FUSO. I'm really surprised Dave Moulton is missing - he epitomizes the Classic American Builder. He's not some obscure master. He's personally built thousands of bikes in the US. Fuso is also a really cool logo, fire!
But since you posted here, I will offer this feedback:
What keeps me from getting this map (and the others in your lineup) is the giant bubble font corsaclassic.com taking up all that space at the bottom. It's visually distracting and takes up so much real estate it leaves no space on that map. No room to breathe.
In visual art the Greeks who were masters of classic design had a term for this: "horror vaqui" fear of empty space.
Besides, I don't see how the .com is going to get you any more web traffic when your maps are displayed in people's homes, bike dens.
Still a worthy piece and I applaud your work.
Dave Moulton is there, but to fit look at the “ four corners “ geographic region, includes Fuso and the Reschere (sp), I am on a mobile device. Dave’s logo is the four M’s
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Good that Dave Moulton is included - my bad I missed it! I edited my post above to reflect this.
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I was born and raised in Cos Cob CT. I have never heard of Weyless Bicycles. From when to when and where? Anyone know?
might be referring to Weyless components and clothing, “Designing the Future”

The brand name was revived, but no idea as to any link.
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Originally Posted by Biketiger
But since you posted here, I will offer this feedback:
What keeps me from getting this map (and the others in your lineup) is the giant bubble font corsaclassic.com taking up all that space at the bottom. It's visually distracting and takes up so much real estate it leaves no space on that map. No room to breathe.
In visual art the Greeks who were masters of classic design had a term for this: "horror vaqui" fear of empty space.
Besides, I don't see how the .com is going to get you any more web traffic when your maps are displayed in people's homes, bike dens.
Still a worthy piece and I applaud your work.
The version posted above is not reflective of the actual product:

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Originally Posted by Biketiger
Very interesting map and a great resource! Hunter Cycles in California is missing too. Rick has been building bikes since 1992, awesome handmade frames that are coveted in many bike fields from bike packing to racing. He's won at NAHBS, he's had longtime collaboration with Nitto. My Hunter track is my favorite American made bike.

But since you posted here, I will offer this feedback:
What keeps me from getting this map (and the others in your lineup) is the giant bubble font corsaclassic.com taking up all that space at the bottom. It's visually distracting and takes up so much real estate it leaves no space on that map. No room to breathe.
In visual art the Greeks who were masters of classic design had a term for this: "horror vaqui" fear of empty space.
Besides, I don't see how the .com is going to get you any more web traffic when your maps are displayed in people's homes, bike dens.
Still a worthy piece and I applaud your work.
Hello, as another user pointed out, that is only when I share the image on forum or socials. If you get a copy there is a legen with numbers and just a small logo of Corsa Classic (tiny one!). Hope you get one! Andrea
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Originally Posted by P!N20
Once again Andrea, your research and graphic design have blown me away!

Great to see BF member and C&V enthusiast Doug Fattic on the map, too!
Grazie!
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Originally Posted by alexihnen
There are quite a few great steel frame builders not on the map but I think "classic" limited the newer brands included. I'm not sure what the exact cut-off date was, but maybe the 90s?
Yes indeed the cut off is around early 90s. And still before that, I made a selection out of the hundreds! Very hard choices! Thanks
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Lots of little one-man shops not on the map, as already pointed out by their local aficionados, but how about Klein Bicycle of Chehalis, WA (1977 - 2009)? They were a fairly large operation before getting bought out and eventually unbranded by an an even larger one (Trek).
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Gary Klein's first bicycles were (post MIT) were built on his parent's ranch in San Martin California. Ironically, only a few miles from where Specialized Bicycles Morgan Hill headquarters is located. He moved to Chehalis WA sometime around 1980, I was friends with his painter, and became friends with Gary. I built Gary his first MTB! He still has it.

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Originally Posted by Portlandjim
Gary Klein's first bicycles were (post MIT) were built on his parent's ranch in San Martin California. Ironically, only a few miles from where Specialized Bicycles Morgan Hill headquarters is located. He moved to Chehalis WA sometime around 1980, I was friends with his painter, and became friends with Gary. I built Gary his first MTB! He still has it.

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Considering how big a splash Klein mountain bikes made in the 90s, "I built Gary his first MTB!" is some darn good bragging rights!
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very interesting, thanks for sharing
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Originally Posted by Portlandjim

Me on the first Merz cycle! 1961
Thanks for sharing this, cool!
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Fun map! I was looking and looking for Huffy and Univega but then found Huffman and Italvega. Is Japan on the horizon?
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There was a small company called “Schwinn” out of an obscure city known as “Chicago”

Brent Steelman in Palo Alto, CA?
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Originally Posted by corsaclassic
Hello everybody!
I am happy to share this last project of mine, in which I redesign and mapped 180 American brands.
Those are USA brands.

Those of us who live in the other parts of America are not so myopic.
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Originally Posted by thinktubes
There was a small company called “Schwinn” out of an obscure city known as “Chicago”

Brent Steelman in Palo Alto, CA?
You can find schwinn in the center top, where I put Chicago brands (were too many to fit close to the actual location). In the rectangle.
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Originally Posted by oneclick
Those are USA brands.

Those of us who live in the other parts of America are not so myopic.
Indeed in the cover of the map I added United States of America as second title. Not visibile on the front page I shared.
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Originally Posted by Portlandjim
Gary Klein's first bicycles were (post MIT) were built on his parent's ranch in San Martin California. Ironically, only a few miles from where Specialized Bicycles Morgan Hill headquarters is located. He moved to Chehalis WA sometime around 1980, I was friends with his painter, and became friends with Gary. I built Gary his first MTB! He still has it.

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Perfect thanks
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I like that you got Terry Osell and Chris Kvale. Terry Osell was a good family friend back in the day. My dad and grandma rode one of his tandems (new at the time) all the way around Lake Superior, sometime in the '70s.
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