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Old 11-27-22, 10:35 AM
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We got in an early recovery/Z2 ride this morning to beat the rain.

I might actually stay on the podium but Bam has first place locked up.
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Have you been on my flights before?! I am offended you didn’t come up and say hi.
You might recall one of my cycling friends was a pilot until he retired a few years ago (he usually flew with his wife who was also a pilot). One of the other cyclists in our group travels for work, and one day was on a flight piloted by our friend. I don’t know if he got a tour of the cockpit though. I imagine this does not happen post 9/11.
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You might recall one of my cycling friends was a pilot until he retired a few years ago (he usually flew with his wife who was also a pilot). One of the other cyclists in our group travels for work, and one day was on a flight piloted by our friend. I don’t know if he got a tour of the cockpit though. I imagine this does not happen post 9/11.

You can come up to the cockpit during boarding, time permitting. I have kids almost every flight, I don’t think I have had an adult on their own come up to the cockpit for a peak. During flight, trying to see the cockpit. will get you a cool tour of a police car, or better.
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We got in an early recovery/Z2 ride this morning to beat the rain.

I might actually stay on the podium but Bam has first place locked up.

I have 2 days to ride next week, so I will sadly step aside.
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I have 2 days to ride next week, so I will sadly step aside.
Cheer up. I think you are still the favorite for the full-year podium.
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Cheer up. I think you are still the favorite for the full-year podium.

My greatest achievement. It’s all downhill from here.
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While I was riding this morning, on the creakvelo, I started thinking about how I would change the shifting cables when the time comes. I have never done this before and the RD cable goes into the frame. I was thinking I could unfasten the cable from the rear derailer and shifter, pull the cable out of the housing, sliding fishing wire through the housing so it is sticking out of both sides. Then pull the cable housing out leaving the fishing line behind, slide the new housing over the fishing line, pull the fishing line out and then insert the new cable.

Im sure I could have youtubed, but this is what I came up with on todays ride. Sounds like it should work. Thoughts?
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Originally Posted by bampilot06 View Post
While I was riding this morning, on the creakvelo, I started thinking about how I would change the shifting cables when the time comes. I have never done this before and the RD cable goes into the frame. I was thinking I could unfasten the cable from the rear derailer and shifter, pull the cable out of the housing, sliding fishing wire through the housing so it is sticking out of both sides. Then pull the cable housing out leaving the fishing line behind, slide the new housing over the fishing line, pull the fishing line out and then insert the new cable.

Im sure I could have youtubed, but this is what I came up with on todays ride. Sounds like it should work. Thoughts?
Does the cable go through the frame in regular housing? The Battaglin has the rear brake cable routed through the top tube. When I got the frame, it had no housing or cable. I slid a brake cable in, fished the end out at the other opening, and then slid the housing through from the other end. Then I pulled the brake cable out again while I set it up.

When I redid the housings a couple years back, I undid the cable at the brake, pulled the old housing out the back end, and slid the new housing through over the old cable. Easy-peasy.
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Does the cable go through the frame in regular housing? The Battaglin has the rear brake cable routed through the top tube. When I got the frame, it had no housing or cable. I slid a brake cable in, fished the end out at the other opening, and then slid the housing through from the other end. Then I pulled the brake cable out again while I set it up.

When I redid the housings a couple years back, I undid the cable at the brake, pulled the old housing out the back end, and slid the new housing through over the old cable. Easy-peasy.
I think it’s regular housing.
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When I put this new groupset on the Ritchey, can I use the old housing for brakes and shifting or should I replace everything?
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Old 11-27-22, 12:08 PM
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And oof, grandmother is in the hospital after chest pains last night, took an X-ray and some blood but... no diagnosis today because they aren't running tests on a Sunday? Because apparently life and death can wait like bankers?

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It was a cold 50. Wore a thin base layer, thermal long sleeve jersey, tights and toe covers, light gloves, and a hat. Had my rain jacket in my back pocket, but decided not to use it even when it started to rain.

Daughter started throwing up so I cut the ride short. We have all had a cold now for like 2 weeks we can’t seem to shake. Fevers randomly but not often, ****** cough, and super congested.
Seems to be going around. Internationally too. Nobody had it the last couple years because we were all masked.
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what year is the honda.
2017
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Originally Posted by bampilot06 View Post
While I was riding this morning, on the creakvelo, I started thinking about how I would change the shifting cables when the time comes. I have never done this before and the RD cable goes into the frame. I was thinking I could unfasten the cable from the rear derailer and shifter, pull the cable out of the housing, sliding fishing wire through the housing so it is sticking out of both sides. Then pull the cable housing out leaving the fishing line behind, slide the new housing over the fishing line, pull the fishing line out and then insert the new cable.

Im sure I could have youtubed, but this is what I came up with on todays ride. Sounds like it should work. Thoughts?
Or you could cut the cable at the brighter, slide old housing off and new on,then replace the cable.

Or, my rec - replace it all with wireless electronic
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When I put this new groupset on the Ritchey, can I use the old housing for brakes and shifting or should I replace everything?
Rule of thumb is to replace everything
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I did the usual 22 miles this morning. Slower than normal due to lack of sufficient sleep last night. I go through phases where for a month or three it is nigh on impossible to get eight hours sleep, and then some switch gets flipped and I sleep like a baby for. eight or nine hours for a few months.
Hoping for a nap this afternoon
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Well, Der Fliegende Hollaender is pretty good, but Der Ring des Niebelungens is a 19 hr snoozefest.
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I did the usual 22 miles this morning. Slower than normal due to lack of sufficient sleep last night. I go through phases where for a month or three it is nigh on impossible to get eight hours sleep, and then some switch gets flipped and I sleep like a baby for. eight or nine hours for a few months.
Hoping for a nap this afternoon
I actually go through a similar pattern, though never 8-9 hours regularly. But I'll get to the alarm more often than not for a week or two, then lots of 4am wakes.
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While I was riding this morning, on the creakvelo, I started thinking about how I would change the shifting cables when the time comes. I have never done this before and the RD cable goes into the frame. I was thinking I could unfasten the cable from the rear derailer and shifter, pull the cable out of the housing, sliding fishing wire through the housing so it is sticking out of both sides. Then pull the cable housing out leaving the fishing line behind, slide the new housing over the fishing line, pull the fishing line out and then insert the new cable.

Im sure I could have youtubed, but this is what I came up with on todays ride. Sounds like it should work. Thoughts?
I use this stuff down at the shop. Comes in a big roll that you can cut to size. Run it onto the old cable, so it runs through the frame as you remove the old cable. Run the new cable through the liner. Job done.

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Or you could cut the cable at the brighter, slide old housing off and new on,then replace the cable.

Or, my rec - replace it all with wireless electronic
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When I put this new groupset on the Ritchey, can I use the old housing for brakes and shifting or should I replace everything?
New groupset = new cables and housings. Always.
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Originally Posted by bampilot06 View Post
While I was riding this morning, on the creakvelo, I started thinking about how I would change the shifting cables when the time comes. I have never done this before and the RD cable goes into the frame. I was thinking I could unfasten the cable from the rear derailer and shifter, pull the cable out of the housing, sliding fishing wire through the housing so it is sticking out of both sides. Then pull the cable housing out leaving the fishing line behind, slide the new housing over the fishing line, pull the fishing line out and then insert the new cable.

Im sure I could have youtubed, but this is what I came up with on todays ride. Sounds like it should work. Thoughts?
You can try. I have done this with thread and about 50/50 success rate. Many people use a high powered magnet to help fish the cable through (Park Tool even makes one). Some frames have an actual internal housing which would make the job super easy, but unclear if your bike has that. If so, you are lucky!
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Maybe an aficionado of SlowTwitch like Bah Humbug knows more about this....just thinking out loud....

I think it's obvious to all of us that a more open/larger hip angle (ie slightly more upright position on the bike) gives a higher power output, but at the expense of more wind resistance, so less aero. That's why most of us get lower on descents and/or pulling at the front, and sit up more on climbs and/or when in a draft or going at a lower intensity.

So is there a more analytical way to find the right compromise/sweet spot for how low to bend at the hips??

I know TT/Triathletes have tried (and to a great extent, succeeded) to have their cake and eat it too, by changing the position on the bike to make the body more aero but keep the hip angle relatively open by rotating the whole body forward. I even see it's documented that cyclists will have a higher FTP and V02 max on their road bike than their TT bike, but of course the aero advantages of the TT bike should more than outweigh the modest improvement in power on a road bike.

So for a road cyclist, other than go by "feel," (which is what I do, and I suspect most of us do, consciously or not), I wonder if there is a better way to measure the tradeoff here and help find the optimal position for various riding situations? I am afraid the only way to know for sure is to use both a wind tunnel AND a power meter at the same time, and I expect that this information is both proprietary and may vary by rider.

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