Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Road Cycling
Reload this Page >

Addiction 2023.3

Notices
Road Cycling “It is by riding a bicycle that you learn the contours of a country best, since you have to sweat up the hills and coast down them. Thus you remember them as they actually are, while in a motor car only a high hill impresses you, and you have no such accurate remembrance of country you have driven through as you gain by riding a bicycle.” -- Ernest Hemingway

Addiction 2023.3

Old 07-05-23, 07:59 AM
  #76  
bampilot06
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2019
Location: 757
Posts: 9,655

Bikes: Madone, Emonda, 5500, Ritchey Breakaway

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 8751 Post(s)
Liked 4,231 Times in 1,814 Posts
Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
Man, I keep looking at this bike and they're only asking $250 but it's so damn big and I dunno if I need a wallhanger


Something for me to ride when I am in Phx.


edit: If you need another excuse.
bampilot06 is offline  
Old 07-05-23, 08:04 AM
  #77  
BillyD
Administrator
Thread Starter
 
BillyD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Hudson Valley, NY
Posts: 32,296

Bikes: Merlin Cyrene '04; Bridgestone RB-1 '92

Mentioned: 323 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quoted: 11416 Post(s)
Liked 5,878 Times in 3,132 Posts
Originally Posted by Velo Vol
Nope.

That's lame.
So difficult.
__________________
See, this is why we can't have nice things. - - smarkinson
Where else but the internet can a bunch of cyclists go and be the tough guy? - - jdon
BillyD is offline  
Old 07-05-23, 08:46 AM
  #78  
Mojo31
-------
 
Join Date: Jul 2020
Location: Tejas
Posts: 11,416
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 8558 Post(s)
Liked 5,673 Times in 3,106 Posts
Originally Posted by bampilot06
I think Mojo is too busy to be sitting at Dallas all day waiting for me to land. Maybe one day he will be on one of my flights.
I actually go out to DFW to plane spot with a friend of mine when he is in town. Typically just one day a year.
Mojo31 is offline  
Old 07-05-23, 09:05 AM
  #79  
Velo Vol 
VFL For Life
 
Velo Vol's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Knoxville, TN
Posts: 49,610

Bikes: Velo Volmobile

Mentioned: 775 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quoted: 26927 Post(s)
Liked 1,609 Times in 1,141 Posts
Originally Posted by Mojo31
Life?
Is this a sufficient enough annoyance to pass muster with the annoyance police?


When I was up at my uncle's, going through his rather unorganized boxes of documents, I came across a 2019 notice from Canada Revenue Agency.


"We have your tax refund of $1,000, and are applying it to your balance. You now owe $22,0000,000.00."


That's not $22 thousand, that's $22 million.


I had some vague notion that my uncle had run into issues as a developer way back, but I didn't know what happened. And to the extent I did know bits and pieces, I forgot.


So I have a mass of not well organized documents, plus the contact of his long-time accountant, and I'm trying to figure out what's going on.


Turns out that back in 1987-1988, my uncle (through his corporations), was involved in buying some land for a development. The land was held in a corporation. They decided it would be easier, faster just to buy that corporation, rather than the land itself.


Somehow, during the process, my uncle's lawyer screwed up and put my uncle's name as a recipient of the seller's shares, rather than his corporation.


A few years later CRA comes snooping around and eventually they charge my uncle with tax evasion/fraud for not properly reporting that transaction as income.


He had a criminal trial, the judge dismissed the charges because there was clearly no intent.


But apparently, in the eyes of CRA, the tax itself was still due. Something like $2.5 million in 1994.


I'm not sure what happened next, but later in the week I found a letter my uncle wrote (in 2017), claiming (1) he had never had a proper tax appeal hearing, and (2) incredibly, CRA statements from 2000 to 2013 did not show that tax liability at all. He had a 2000 and 2001 letter from CRA collections agent which says he owes $14,000.


Even after 2013, CRA didn't do anything at all to collect on the tax, other than take his tax refunds.


So here we are now wondering if the CRA is going to try to collect on this (which is obviously way more than the value of his estate) or what.


It looks like we're going to be consulting with a tax attorney in Toronto who deals with appeals to see if we can get this thing tossed.


tl;dr Velo Vol has a legitimate annoyance.
__________________
Originally Posted by Velo Vol
People here don't get it.
Velo Vol is online now  
Old 07-05-23, 09:14 AM
  #80  
Mojo31
-------
 
Join Date: Jul 2020
Location: Tejas
Posts: 11,416
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 8558 Post(s)
Liked 5,673 Times in 3,106 Posts
Originally Posted by Velo Vol
Is this a sufficient enough annoyance to pass muster with the annoyance police?


When I was up at my uncle's, going through his rather unorganized boxes of documents, I came across a 2019 notice from Canada Revenue Agency.


"We have your tax refund of $1,000, and are applying it to your balance. You now owe $22,0000,000.00."


That's not $22 thousand, that's $22 million.


I had some vague notion that my uncle had run into issues as a developer way back, but I didn't know what happened. And to the extent I did know bits and pieces, I forgot.


So I have a mass of not well organized documents, plus the contact of his long-time accountant, and I'm trying to figure out what's going on.


Turns out that back in 1987-1988, my uncle (through his corporations), was involved in buying some land for a development. The land was held in a corporation. They decided it would be easier, faster just to buy that corporation, rather than the land itself.


Somehow, during the process, my uncle's lawyer screwed up and put my uncle's name as a recipient of the seller's shares, rather than his corporation.


A few years later CRA comes snooping around and eventually they charge my uncle with tax evasion/fraud for not properly reporting that transaction as income.


He had a criminal trial, the judge dismissed the charges because there was clearly no intent.


But apparently, in the eyes of CRA, the tax itself was still due. Something like $2.5 million in 1994.


I'm not sure what happened next, but later in the week I found a letter my uncle wrote (in 2017), claiming (1) he had never had a proper tax appeal hearing, and (2) incredibly, CRA statements from 2000 to 2013 did not show that tax liability at all. He had a 2000 and 2001 letter from CRA collections agent which says he owes $14,000.


Even after 2013, CRA didn't do anything at all to collect on the tax, other than take his tax refunds.


So here we are now wondering if the CRA is going to try to collect on this (which is obviously way more than the value of his estate) or what.


It looks like we're going to be consulting with a tax attorney in Toronto who deals with appeals to see if we can get this thing tossed.


tl;dr Velo Vol has a legitimate annoyance.
Sounds like your uncle screwed up. Why is that your problem?
Mojo31 is offline  
Old 07-05-23, 09:19 AM
  #81  
Bah Humbug
serious cyclist
 
Bah Humbug's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Austin
Posts: 20,635

Bikes: S1, R2, P2

Mentioned: 115 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 9001 Post(s)
Liked 3,500 Times in 1,900 Posts
Originally Posted by Velo Vol
If so, it's because I face more legitimate annoyances than you do.
You are always around yourself, so I suppose that's true.
Bah Humbug is offline  
Old 07-05-23, 09:24 AM
  #82  
Velo Vol 
VFL For Life
 
Velo Vol's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Knoxville, TN
Posts: 49,610

Bikes: Velo Volmobile

Mentioned: 775 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quoted: 26927 Post(s)
Liked 1,609 Times in 1,141 Posts
Originally Posted by Mojo31
Sounds like your uncle screwed up. Why is that your problem?
My mom is the beneficiary of whatever is in the estate. Plus, I'm annoyed that they did that to him.
__________________
Originally Posted by Velo Vol
People here don't get it.
Velo Vol is online now  
Old 07-05-23, 09:24 AM
  #83  
Bah Humbug
serious cyclist
 
Bah Humbug's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Austin
Posts: 20,635

Bikes: S1, R2, P2

Mentioned: 115 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 9001 Post(s)
Liked 3,500 Times in 1,900 Posts
Originally Posted by Velo Vol
Is this a sufficient enough annoyance to pass muster with the annoyance police?


When I was up at my uncle's, going through his rather unorganized boxes of documents, I came across a 2019 notice from Canada Revenue Agency.


"We have your tax refund of $1,000, and are applying it to your balance. You now owe $22,0000,000.00."


That's not $22 thousand, that's $22 million.


I had some vague notion that my uncle had run into issues as a developer way back, but I didn't know what happened. And to the extent I did know bits and pieces, I forgot.


So I have a mass of not well organized documents, plus the contact of his long-time accountant, and I'm trying to figure out what's going on.


Turns out that back in 1987-1988, my uncle (through his corporations), was involved in buying some land for a development. The land was held in a corporation. They decided it would be easier, faster just to buy that corporation, rather than the land itself.


Somehow, during the process, my uncle's lawyer screwed up and put my uncle's name as a recipient of the seller's shares, rather than his corporation.


A few years later CRA comes snooping around and eventually they charge my uncle with tax evasion/fraud for not properly reporting that transaction as income.


He had a criminal trial, the judge dismissed the charges because there was clearly no intent.


But apparently, in the eyes of CRA, the tax itself was still due. Something like $2.5 million in 1994.


I'm not sure what happened next, but later in the week I found a letter my uncle wrote (in 2017), claiming (1) he had never had a proper tax appeal hearing, and (2) incredibly, CRA statements from 2000 to 2013 did not show that tax liability at all. He had a 2000 and 2001 letter from CRA collections agent which says he owes $14,000.


Even after 2013, CRA didn't do anything at all to collect on the tax, other than take his tax refunds.


So here we are now wondering if the CRA is going to try to collect on this (which is obviously way more than the value of his estate) or what.


It looks like we're going to be consulting with a tax attorney in Toronto who deals with appeals to see if we can get this thing tossed.


tl;dr Velo Vol has a legitimate annoyance.
That's not really an annoyance. It's stressful, but the price paid for playing big boy games and getting it wrong. You need a Canadian lawyer.

The taxman is famous for getting his, though, no matter what. Criminal charges for tax evasion being dismissed doesn't mean the tax wasn't owed, just that not having paid it wasn't criminal. It still wasn't paid, and needed to be paid, unless the debt was ruled invalid.

For example, if I am speeding and charged with street racing, but then prove there was no one else on the road to be racing against, I'm still speeding. Just not felony street racing.

Last edited by Bah Humbug; 07-05-23 at 09:27 AM.
Bah Humbug is offline  
Likes For Bah Humbug:
Old 07-05-23, 09:38 AM
  #84  
Trsnrtr
Super Moderator
 
Trsnrtr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Central Illinois
Posts: 22,919

Bikes: Trek Emonda, Giant Propel, Colnago V3, Co-Motion Supremo, ICE VTX WC

Mentioned: 107 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 10503 Post(s)
Liked 4,163 Times in 1,920 Posts
Had to drop my Honda off for an all day appointment. Road home from north Peoria to south East Peoria. Some of it is a sucky trail but it does follow the river which is generally nice despite the humidity and haze. Stopped at the Dan Fogelberg monuments. Pardon the haze.



__________________
Keep the chain tight!







Trsnrtr is offline  
Likes For Trsnrtr:
Old 07-05-23, 09:45 AM
  #85  
abshipp 
Senior Member
 
abshipp's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Greenville SC
Posts: 4,044

Bikes: 1976 Motobecane Grand Jubile, 2020 Holdsworth Competition, 2022 Giant Trance 29 3

Mentioned: 42 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3177 Post(s)
Liked 3,327 Times in 1,158 Posts
Had a nice long weekend of riding - kind of surprised myself by riding every day. Was nice but I'm pretty beat today and looking forward to taking the day off the bike.

Yesterday I finally went out to go ride some roads I've been wanting to get back on. It's been pretty hot here lately so I started at around 7 AM, but since I was in the mountains all day my Wahoo never registered any temperature above 75° until the very last few miles. The humidity was high, though, so by the halfway point I was completely soaked in sweat. Ended up with 55 miles and just over 5000', I briefly considered pushing it to a metric and over 6000' but the best option available to achieve that is a brutal climb that I hate doing on days that I'm feeling fresh, it's even more awful when you're already tired.

Lovely roads in NC:


Top of Mount Olivet at ~3000'. Typical hazy summer air.


Stopped my descent to move this little one. Got hissed at



abshipp is online now  
Old 07-05-23, 09:49 AM
  #86  
Mojo31
-------
 
Join Date: Jul 2020
Location: Tejas
Posts: 11,416
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 8558 Post(s)
Liked 5,673 Times in 3,106 Posts
Originally Posted by Velo Vol
My mom is the beneficiary of whatever is in the estate. Plus, I'm annoyed that they did that to him.
Not sure how that is an annoyance. Beneficiaries are not entitled to anything, nor do they have an expectancy. It's a gift that is nice to receive, but nothing more. If there is something there, then that is fantastic, but if there is not then nobody should be upset.

My kids are beneficiaries under our wills, but if my wife and I spend our last dollar on our last day, then that's just the way it goes.
Mojo31 is offline  
Likes For Mojo31:
Old 07-05-23, 10:24 AM
  #87  
seedsbelize2
Senior Member
 
seedsbelize2's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Yucatán. México
Posts: 4,884

Bikes: 79 Trek 930 is back on the road, 80 Trek 414, 84 Schwinn Letour Luxe,87 Schwinn Prelude, 92 Schwinn Paramount PDG 5

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2429 Post(s)
Liked 1,419 Times in 897 Posts
Originally Posted by BillyD
Nice view.
Family forum mister!
seedsbelize2 is offline  
Old 07-05-23, 10:25 AM
  #88  
DougRNS
Silver Comet Fred
 
DougRNS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: NW Metro Atl.
Posts: 11,088

Bikes: 1

Mentioned: 145 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quoted: 8091 Post(s)
Liked 2,524 Times in 1,484 Posts
I'm doing fine.

I have nothing else to add at the moment, I wouldn't want to annoy Vol.
DougRNS is offline  
Likes For DougRNS:
Old 07-05-23, 10:38 AM
  #89  
t2p
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2022
Location: USA
Posts: 2,362

Bikes: Cannondale - Gary Fisher - Giant - Litespeed - Schwinn Paramount - Schwinn (lugged steel) - Trek OCLV

Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1006 Post(s)
Liked 1,390 Times in 793 Posts
Originally Posted by DougRNS
I'm doing fine.

I have nothing else to add at the moment, I wouldn't want to annoy Vol.

and I feel fine

t2p is offline  
Old 07-05-23, 10:38 AM
  #90  
Mojo31
-------
 
Join Date: Jul 2020
Location: Tejas
Posts: 11,416
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 8558 Post(s)
Liked 5,673 Times in 3,106 Posts
Originally Posted by DougRNS
I'm doing fine.

I have nothing else to add at the moment, I wouldn't want to annoy Vol.
I'm sure you just did.
Mojo31 is offline  
Old 07-05-23, 10:52 AM
  #91  
Velo Vol 
VFL For Life
 
Velo Vol's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Knoxville, TN
Posts: 49,610

Bikes: Velo Volmobile

Mentioned: 775 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quoted: 26927 Post(s)
Liked 1,609 Times in 1,141 Posts
Now I'm annoyed that people here are suddenly defenders of the tax bureaucracy. Amazing.
__________________
Originally Posted by Velo Vol
People here don't get it.
Velo Vol is online now  
Old 07-05-23, 11:13 AM
  #92  
Mojo31
-------
 
Join Date: Jul 2020
Location: Tejas
Posts: 11,416
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 8558 Post(s)
Liked 5,673 Times in 3,106 Posts
Originally Posted by Velo Vol
Now I'm annoyed that people here are suddenly defenders of the tax bureaucracy. Amazing.
This might help you: IRS Tax Forms | The Texas Republic
Mojo31 is offline  
Old 07-05-23, 11:19 AM
  #93  
ls01
he said member
 
ls01's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: is everything
Posts: 12,962

Bikes: yes please

Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2399 Post(s)
Liked 1,675 Times in 1,009 Posts
Howdy and a happy belated 4th of July to everyone. Hope you are all well. Or as near as you can get.
ls01 is offline  
Likes For ls01:
Old 07-05-23, 11:29 AM
  #94  
genejockey 
Klaatu..Verata..Necktie?
 
genejockey's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: SF Bay Area
Posts: 16,117

Bikes: Litespeed Ultimate, Ultegra; Canyon Endurace, 105; Battaglin MAX, Chorus; Bianchi 928 Veloce; Ritchey Road Logic, Dura Ace; Cannondale R500 RX100; Schwinn Circuit, Sante; Lotus Supreme, Dura Ace

Mentioned: 40 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 9241 Post(s)
Liked 10,372 Times in 5,276 Posts
Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
Man, I keep looking at this bike and they're only asking $250 but it's so damn big and I dunno if I need a wallhanger

Finally, something in my size. But I already have an Italian steel bike.
__________________
"Don't take life so serious-it ain't nohow permanent."

"Everybody's gotta be somewhere." - Eccles
genejockey is offline  
Old 07-05-23, 11:36 AM
  #95  
LesterOfPuppets
cowboy, steel horse, etc
 
LesterOfPuppets's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: The hot spot.
Posts: 43,442

Bikes: everywhere

Mentioned: 71 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 11686 Post(s)
Liked 6,623 Times in 3,488 Posts
Originally Posted by Velo Vol
Now I'm annoyed that people here are suddenly defenders of the tax bureaucracy. Amazing.
Canada needs boat money!

LesterOfPuppets is offline  
Old 07-05-23, 11:41 AM
  #96  
genejockey 
Klaatu..Verata..Necktie?
 
genejockey's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: SF Bay Area
Posts: 16,117

Bikes: Litespeed Ultimate, Ultegra; Canyon Endurace, 105; Battaglin MAX, Chorus; Bianchi 928 Veloce; Ritchey Road Logic, Dura Ace; Cannondale R500 RX100; Schwinn Circuit, Sante; Lotus Supreme, Dura Ace

Mentioned: 40 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 9241 Post(s)
Liked 10,372 Times in 5,276 Posts
We had a weekend of warm weather - which felt hot because it's been so cold all Spring and so far into the summer. It was maybe 90 degrees tops on Sunday and it just felt deadly. But Monday and yesterday, the winds and the coolness returned.

Then our water heater broke. Luckily this was AFTER running the dishwasher and AFTER my shower (which I really needed because I'd spent a sweaty couple hours clearing weeds in what we jokingly call "The Back Forty".
__________________
"Don't take life so serious-it ain't nohow permanent."

"Everybody's gotta be somewhere." - Eccles
genejockey is offline  
Old 07-05-23, 12:16 PM
  #97  
genejockey 
Klaatu..Verata..Necktie?
 
genejockey's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: SF Bay Area
Posts: 16,117

Bikes: Litespeed Ultimate, Ultegra; Canyon Endurace, 105; Battaglin MAX, Chorus; Bianchi 928 Veloce; Ritchey Road Logic, Dura Ace; Cannondale R500 RX100; Schwinn Circuit, Sante; Lotus Supreme, Dura Ace

Mentioned: 40 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 9241 Post(s)
Liked 10,372 Times in 5,276 Posts
Originally Posted by bampilot06
Something for me to ride when I am in Phx.


edit: If you need another excuse.
Needz moar seatpost.
__________________
"Don't take life so serious-it ain't nohow permanent."

"Everybody's gotta be somewhere." - Eccles
genejockey is offline  
Old 07-05-23, 12:25 PM
  #98  
seedsbelize2
Senior Member
 
seedsbelize2's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Yucatán. México
Posts: 4,884

Bikes: 79 Trek 930 is back on the road, 80 Trek 414, 84 Schwinn Letour Luxe,87 Schwinn Prelude, 92 Schwinn Paramount PDG 5

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2429 Post(s)
Liked 1,419 Times in 897 Posts
Citizenship application process begun. It will not move forward quickly. Fortunately, for the most part, it will be done online. There are legends floating around saying that the folks who get in line at Immigration at midnight, don't make it through the door the following day.
seedsbelize2 is offline  
Old 07-05-23, 01:14 PM
  #99  
badger1
Senior Member
 
badger1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Southwestern Ontario
Posts: 4,975
Mentioned: 22 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1487 Post(s)
Liked 1,043 Times in 527 Posts
Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
Canada needs boat money!

We do indeed; well, we at least need enough to have a few more boats to patrol our coastline, fisheries, etc.

Not sure it should come mainly from VV's uncle's estate, though.
badger1 is offline  
Old 07-05-23, 01:25 PM
  #100  
bampilot06
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2019
Location: 757
Posts: 9,655

Bikes: Madone, Emonda, 5500, Ritchey Breakaway

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 8751 Post(s)
Liked 4,231 Times in 1,814 Posts
Originally Posted by genejockey
Needz moar seatpost.

I don’t get it
bampilot06 is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information -

Copyright © 2023 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.