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Old 08-24-22, 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by datlas
2 is easy. No problem. They went from 126 to 130mm rear spread in the early 90’s.

1 depends, do you have a triple crank?? I suspect triple shifter may not have proper cable pull to work with a double crank….
I think this may be right. Since Shimano went to the much-more-complicated FDs, I think the cable pull for each of the 4 stops might be only suited to a very specific spacing.

It used to be Shimano's STIs seems to have a non-detented trim feature, so that you could push it just a little bit when in the small ring to allow the cage to clear the chain in smaller cogs, without there being a "click". My old 7401s had it, and I'm pretty sure the 7800s I'm running on the Ritchey (with a 7400 FD) work the same.
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
Given the number of times I've finished rides to pull wire or staples out of my latex tubes that then deflated, I don't care how much faster they are.
I've thought about latex tubes, but I'd have to decide which bikes get 'em, and if I flat, it'll be right back to butyl.

Choosing tires is already a problem. I'm running GP5000s on my 2 favorite Sunday Ride bikes, the Litespeed and the Canyon. Plain GPs on the Battaglin and Ritchey. Vittoria Corsas on the Bianchi, and an assortment of cheaper tires on the C&V bikes.
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Originally Posted by datlas
2 is easy. No problem. They went from 126 to 130mm rear spread in the early 90’s.

1 depends, do you have a triple crank?? I suspect triple shifter may not have proper cable pull to work with a double crank….

It is a triple, but the derailer seems to be really wide compared to my 105, my thought process, could be rigged to only work the two chain rings with the different cable pull? In my mind I think it would work, but I don’t know much. I mean I could just set it up and only use the big ring?
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Originally Posted by bampilot06
Stupid question of the day, well 2 stupid questions of the day.

Question number 1. If I were to buy a 105 R7000 rear derailer, cassette, and shifters, could I get buy with the triple upfront for a little while? I wouldn’t be able to use all three chain rings obviously, But if I could only use the outer and the middle that would work. Reason I ask, I need 175 cranks arms and it seems the 105 group sets are always out of stock. I can do piece meal but the price is more than I want to spend at once time.

Question number 2. How do I know if my rear chain stay is wide enough to take an 11 speed wheel? The ritchey was built in 2001. I don’t want to order wheels and then they don’t fit.


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Granted the cranksets are 52/36, but just go with the a 32 or 34 tooth cassette. That would be the same as a 50-34 and 30 tooth cassette

10 and 11 speeds take are the same width, just a spacer on the wheel if the hub can take either.
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Originally Posted by mvnsnd
Rim Brake: https://www.merlincycles.com/en-us/s...et-118524.html

Disk Brake: https://www.merlincycles.com/en-us/s...et-119887.html

Granted the cranksets are 52/36, but just go with the a 32 or 34 tooth cassette. That would be the same as a 50-34 and 30 tooth cassette

10 and 11 speeds take are the same width, just a spacer on the wheel if the hub can take either.
Ive been checking merlin, the 175 crank arms are always out of stock for the rim brake.
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Watching the Vuelta with Jackie. She is not a tifosa, obv.


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Bob Roll keeps calling the team Jumbo “Veeeesma” but I confirmed with a Dutch friend it’s a short i. I should forgive this but I do find it annoying.
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Originally Posted by datlas
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SaPAOTD, possibly:


What Sa?
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Originally Posted by bampilot06
Ive been checking merlin, the 175 crank arms are always out of stock for the rim brake.
Shimano 105 R7000 11 Spd Double Crankset - Black - Cambria Bike

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Saturn ass?
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Saturn ass?
Oh, nope. It's gotta be Saturn and

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I only see a purdy white car with some skinny dude standing behind it.
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I only see a purdy white car with some skinny dude standing behind it.
Cripes! Give that guy a sandwich!
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Originally Posted by bampilot06
It is a triple, but the derailer seems to be really wide compared to my 105, my thought process, could be rigged to only work the two chain rings with the different cable pull? In my mind I think it would work, but I don’t know much. I mean I could just set it up and only use the big ring?
It could be rigged, if the low stop will adjust far enough.
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Originally Posted by mvnsnd
Rim Brake: https://www.merlincycles.com/en-us/s...et-118524.html

Disk Brake: https://www.merlincycles.com/en-us/s...et-119887.html

Granted the cranksets are 52/36, but just go with the a 32 or 34 tooth cassette. That would be the same as a 50-34 and 30 tooth cassette

10 and 11 speeds take are the same width, just a spacer on the wheel if the hub can take either.
I've got 50/34, 52/36, and 53/39 cranks. I really prefer the latter two over the first. Shifting's better, and the gear range requires less FD shifting. With 50/34 I keep finding my self in Biggie Bigs and Smallie Smalls at normal human speeds.
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Originally Posted by datlas
Bob Roll keeps calling the team Jumbo “Veeeesma” but I confirmed with a Dutch friend it’s a short i. I should forgive this but I do find it annoying.
Hmmmm. I've got the regular GCN crew calling it on Tiz Cycling. I figured BR only did the opening TT
Maybe Bob's doing Spanish pronunciation, in deference to them being in Spain.

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Cripes! Give that guy a sandwich!
And pizza, chips, ice cream and candy!
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Originally Posted by seedsbelize2
Hmmmm. I've got the regular GCN crew calling it on Tiz Cycling. I figured BR only did the opening TT
Maybe Bob's doing Spanish pronunciation, in deference to them being in Spain.
My GCN+ subscription has the Vuelta blocked in USA so I paid $5 for Peacock, with Bob Roll and Christian VandeVelde. Weak sauce.
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Oh, nope. It's gotta be Saturn and

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Going to see the Phillies game because mrs datlas is a fan and I must do my husbandly duty.
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Originally Posted by datlas
Going to see the Phillies game because mrs datlas is a fan and I must do my husbandly duty.
What, during the game?
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What, during the game?
You gotta do what's expected. Doesn't matter where or when.
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Bob Roll keeps calling the team Jumbo “Veeeesma” but I confirmed with a Dutch friend it’s a short i. I should forgive this but I do find it annoying.
I find Bob Roll annoying in general.
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Originally Posted by genejockey
I've got 50/34, 52/36, and 53/39 cranks. I really prefer the latter two over the first. Shifting's better, and the gear range requires less FD shifting. With 50/34 I keep finding my self in Biggie Bigs and Smallie Smalls at normal human speeds.
My first compact (50x36) was in 2014 and I thought it was great. So great, I put a compact Campy 50x36 on my Gianni Motta. Then last year, I buy a Colnago with a 52x36 and now it's my favorite. I'll bet that I'd like a 53x39, also.
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