Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Alt Bike Culture
Reload this Page >

drop bar mountain bike aka monstercross

Notices
Alt Bike Culture Chopped, dropped, stretched, lifted, and otherwise cut up and put back together. The art and science of choppers, cruisers, lowriders and the vast world of mutant bicycles.

drop bar mountain bike aka monstercross

Old 10-31-20, 07:58 PM
  #1  
wvridgerider 
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Wild Wonderful West Virginia
Posts: 523

Bikes: Gunnar Crosshairs, Surly Karate Monkey, Specialized Fuze, Bianchi Volpe, too many others and a lot of broken frame

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 29 Post(s)
Liked 42 Times in 8 Posts
drop bar mountain bike aka monstercross

I built my old Karate Monkey as a drop bar mountain bike, what a fun bike. Anyone else do this. Very versitile
wvridgerider is offline  
Old 11-01-20, 05:24 PM
  #2  
Miele Man
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Ontario, Canada
Posts: 4,532

Bikes: iele Latina, Miele Suprema, Miele Uno LS, Miele Miele Beta, MMTB, Bianchi Model Unknown, Fiori Venezia, Fiori Napoli, VeloSport Adamas AX

Mentioned: 16 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1267 Post(s)
Liked 855 Times in 592 Posts
Originally Posted by wvridgerider View Post
I built my old Karate Monkey as a drop bar mountain bike, what a fun bike. Anyone else do this. Very versitile
There's an entire thread on such bicycles. LOTS of similar conversions. Thread started in 2012 and now has 6,931 posts in it. Enjoy.

https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...nversions.html

Cheers
Miele Man is offline  
Likes For Miele Man:
Old 06-16-21, 09:59 PM
  #3  
craig_dahlke
Junior Member
 
Join Date: May 2021
Posts: 16
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 10 Post(s)
Liked 20 Times in 8 Posts
Yes, highly recommend checking out the drop bar mtb thread- lots of great info and rad builds.
craig_dahlke is offline  
Old 06-25-21, 03:40 PM
  #4  
Rolla
Victimless Criminal
 
Rolla's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2020
Posts: 2,334
Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1022 Post(s)
Liked 2,440 Times in 1,091 Posts
A drop bar mountain bike isn't the same as a Monster Cross, or at least it wasn't when the term was first coined.

History and interview here: https://www.cxmagazine.com/monster-c...-dirt-drop-bar
Rolla is online now  
Old 06-27-21, 11:35 AM
  #5  
zandoval 
Senior Member
 
zandoval's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Bastrop Texas
Posts: 3,114

Bikes: Univega, Peu P6, Peu PR-10, Ted Williams, Peu UO-8, Peu UO-18 Mixte, Peu Dolomites

Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 444 Post(s)
Liked 659 Times in 440 Posts
It has always amazed me how much change in a ride can be made with modification to your bars. As I have gotten older it is even more exaggerated. I test rode a straight bar bicycle a few months ago to help with adjustments. WOW! It was uncomfortable, almost painful...
__________________
No matter where your at... There you are... Δf:=f(1/2)-f(-1/2)
zandoval is online now  
Old 07-06-21, 08:24 AM
  #6  
269523
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 37
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 13 Post(s)
Liked 15 Times in 7 Posts
Originally Posted by zandoval View Post
It has always amazed me how much change in a ride can be made with modification to your bars. As I have gotten older it is even more exaggerated. I test rode a straight bar bicycle a few months ago to help with adjustments. WOW! It was uncomfortable, almost painful...
What kind of bars would you recommend for increased comfort instead of straight bars? I'm building up a hybrid and could use ideas!!
269523 is offline  
Old 07-06-21, 09:03 AM
  #7  
zandoval 
Senior Member
 
zandoval's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Bastrop Texas
Posts: 3,114

Bikes: Univega, Peu P6, Peu PR-10, Ted Williams, Peu UO-8, Peu UO-18 Mixte, Peu Dolomites

Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 444 Post(s)
Liked 659 Times in 440 Posts
Originally Posted by 269523 View Post
What kind of bars would you recommend for increased comfort instead of straight bars?
This is actually a hard question. For me personally I have used nothing but Drop bars since the 60's. I rode nothing but road bikes. I even participated in Cat 3 racing when I was stationed in Italy in the early 70's (very humbling). So me and my body are Road Bike Drop Bar conditioned. So now, almost 50 years latter, using anything else is hard.

About 8 years ago I noticed that due to my back injuries and osteoarthritis I was hardly ever in the drops. My seat was a little lower and my bars a little higher. I was watching some movie about guys tearing about the city on fixie's with Bull Horn bars. That was the ticket for me. I have been using Bull Horn handle bars since.

Take a good look at what your physical abilities are and what you have been ridding. If your bike normally comes with drop bars keep them for awhile. There are even mountain bikers using drop bars now (I wonder if they were road bikers before). At my house when my son's come home they fight over a step through sleeper bike I have with moustache bars.

So what handle bars would I recommend, this is actually a hard question...
__________________
No matter where your at... There you are... Δf:=f(1/2)-f(-1/2)
zandoval is online now  
Old 07-13-21, 05:38 AM
  #8  
Badger6
Obsessed with Eddington
 
Badger6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Brussels (BE) 🇧🇪
Posts: 1,196

Bikes: '16 Spesh Diverge, '14 Spesh Fatboy, '18 Spesh Epic, '18 Spesh SL6, '21 Spesh SL7, '21 Spesh Diverge...and maybe n+1?

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 468 Post(s)
Liked 529 Times in 323 Posts
Originally Posted by Rolla View Post
A drop bar mountain bike isn't the same as a Monster Cross, or at least it wasn't when the term was first coined.

History and interview here: https://www.cxmagazine.com/monster-c...-dirt-drop-bar
I remember reading that article a few years ago after a friend mentioned "monstercross" and I was intrigued enough that I went googling. Rereading it, I was struck by this quote:

"Monster cross is a bike designed to fill the gap between a cyclocross bike and a mountain bike. A true do-it-all bike that rides singletrack, pavement and gravel well. Key features are rather simple: tires between 38-45mm tires and dirt drop handlebars."

Bold parts for emphasis. What was monstercross in 2018 (and before) is now just a standard gravel bike. Back then, gravel bikes were generally either CX bikes or "endurance" road bikes with 32mm tires, treaded and without. Fast forward to 2021 and my current year Diverge, and many others, are now standard with 38mm tires (I toy with the idea of 42mm when I wear out my current tires) and of course drop bars, and depending on rider skill can be as much fun on single track as they are on pavement and forest roads. Seems that maybe gravel merged into and subsumed monstercross, while CX stayed distinct?
Badger6 is offline  
Old 07-13-21, 08:07 PM
  #9  
Rolla
Victimless Criminal
 
Rolla's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2020
Posts: 2,334
Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1022 Post(s)
Liked 2,440 Times in 1,091 Posts
Originally Posted by Badger6 View Post
Seems that maybe gravel merged into and subsumed monstercross, while CX stayed distinct?
Yes, because cyclocross is an actual sport, and the bikes are governed by UCI rules. “Gravel” and “monster cross” are just words that mean whatever anyone wants them to mean.
Rolla is online now  
Likes For Rolla:
Old 07-13-21, 11:19 PM
  #10  
Badger6
Obsessed with Eddington
 
Badger6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Brussels (BE) 🇧🇪
Posts: 1,196

Bikes: '16 Spesh Diverge, '14 Spesh Fatboy, '18 Spesh Epic, '18 Spesh SL6, '21 Spesh SL7, '21 Spesh Diverge...and maybe n+1?

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 468 Post(s)
Liked 529 Times in 323 Posts
I probably should have been clearer. I can distinctly recall a time in the mid 20Teens, before anyone made up the word monstercross (that I am aware off), where it seemed gravel bikes were just CX legal bikes with relaxed road geometry (Original Diverge was Roubaix geometry with space for 35s, and the Focus Paralane was actually an endurance geo road bike with space for 35s). In fact, as I recall, squeezing a 35 into a "gravel" frame was about as big as one could go on any of those early "gravel" specified frames. The influence of a few frame builder (brands, really, from the US) pushed gravel into the wide tire realm and they subsumed the "monstercross" wide tire builds as well as the mullet 1x drivetrains.

Of course, CX would stay "defined", because of the UCI. I probably shouldn't have brought up the CX discipline/class, except to say that the current gravel craze started on CX bikes, but it didn't stay on them for very long, because CX geometry os pretty aggressive and not conducive to the kinds of riding the gravel culture embraced.
Badger6 is offline  
Old 07-14-21, 08:14 PM
  #11  
Rolla
Victimless Criminal
 
Rolla's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2020
Posts: 2,334
Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1022 Post(s)
Liked 2,440 Times in 1,091 Posts
Originally Posted by Badger6 View Post
I probably shouldn't have brought up the CX discipline/class, except to say that the current gravel craze started on CX bikes, but it didn't stay on them for very long, because CX geometry os pretty aggressive and not conducive to the kinds of riding the gravel culture embraced.
Agreed on all counts, although I’d wager that an awful lot of gravel bikes are bought by people who could just as comfortably (and perhaps more efficiently) do their “gravel” riding on a ‘cross bike. I own both, and I seldom go on a ride whose terrain demands one over the other. .
Rolla is online now  

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Do Not Sell My Personal Information -

Copyright 2021 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.