Clunker 100 Challenge COVID 2.0 edition #7
04-30-21, 02:45 PM
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non-fixie That thing looks great with those fenders and wire rack. If nothing else is salvagable, at least those were worth your investment.
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Okay, again maiden voyage dum-dum questions...
1. Is the intention to build up the clunker and be expected to sell it afterward, or can it be a keeper?
2. Must all replacement parts be purchased after the fact, or can old stock be used so long as we know what we paid previously?
3. Must there be rust or some sort of impediment to health and well-being on the bicycle (ie...80 year old brake pads, rusty spokes, no handlebar)?
4. Would EMS services be considered part of the clunker cost if the above is required?
5. If 3 and 4 apply, do you get extra points if a bike part ends up being lodged in your person?
1. Is the intention to build up the clunker and be expected to sell it afterward, or can it be a keeper?
2. Must all replacement parts be purchased after the fact, or can old stock be used so long as we know what we paid previously?
3. Must there be rust or some sort of impediment to health and well-being on the bicycle (ie...80 year old brake pads, rusty spokes, no handlebar)?
4. Would EMS services be considered part of the clunker cost if the above is required?
5. If 3 and 4 apply, do you get extra points if a bike part ends up being lodged in your person?
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04-30-21, 03:03 PM
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Okay, again maiden voyage dum-dum questions...
1. Is the intention to build up the clunker and be expected to sell it afterward, or can it be a keeper?
2. Must all replacement parts be purchased after the fact, or can old stock be used so long as we know what we paid previously?
3. Must there be rust or some sort of impediment to health and well-being on the bicycle (ie...80 year old brake pads, rusty spokes, no handlebar)?
4. Would EMS services be considered part of the clunker cost if the above is required?
5. If 3 and 4 apply, do you get extra points if a bike part ends up being lodged in your person?
1. Is the intention to build up the clunker and be expected to sell it afterward, or can it be a keeper?
2. Must all replacement parts be purchased after the fact, or can old stock be used so long as we know what we paid previously?
3. Must there be rust or some sort of impediment to health and well-being on the bicycle (ie...80 year old brake pads, rusty spokes, no handlebar)?
4. Would EMS services be considered part of the clunker cost if the above is required?
5. If 3 and 4 apply, do you get extra points if a bike part ends up being lodged in your person?
My specific riffs on your questions:
1. What you do with the bike after the challenge is irrelevant, though I think it's fun to see updates from people who did proper fixes for things they hacked when constrained by the budget.
2. For the 2020 challenge I decided to use only things I already had in my garage, right down to an old rattle can for the spray paint job. I was a little bit liberal with the rules, counting no cost for things I had culled from the Box 'O Crap over the years. If your honest with yourself about the value of the parts you're using, you'll find that $100 is a really tight budget if you start with anything short of a ready to ride bike.
3. Rust or other health risks aren't required, but they significantly add to the satisfaction you'll get from the project.
4. I wouldn't put EMS in the budget. That's just the cost of doing business.
5. Yes, absolutely! But only if you have pictures and/or x-rays to prove it.
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04-30-21, 03:13 PM
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The power of formal declaration, of course, lies with @Narhay but as a multi-time participant and past winner of the coveted "most proper photo" for a picture of my bike in front of the local landfill, I would say that the rules are just there to establish the spirit of the challenge, and your adherence to and interpretation of the rules will determine your enjoyment of the challenge. If you find a pristine Colnago at a yard sale and buy it for $10 and ride it 100km, you'll have met the terms of the challenge, but you'll have missed a lot of the point of it.
My specific riffs on your questions:
1. What you do with the bike after the challenge is irrelevant, though I think it's fun to see updates from people who did proper fixes for things they hacked when constrained by the budget.
2. For the 2020 challenge I decided to use only things I already had in my garage, right down to an old rattle can for the spray paint job. I was a little bit liberal with the rules, counting no cost for things I had culled from the Box 'O Crap over the years. If your honest with yourself about the value of the parts you're using, you'll find that $100 is a really tight budget if you start with anything short of a ready to ride bike.
3. Rust or other health risks aren't required, but they significantly add to the satisfaction you'll get from the project.
4. I wouldn't put EMS in the budget. That's just the cost of doing business.
5. Yes, absolutely! But only if you have pictures and/or x-rays to prove it.
My specific riffs on your questions:
1. What you do with the bike after the challenge is irrelevant, though I think it's fun to see updates from people who did proper fixes for things they hacked when constrained by the budget.
2. For the 2020 challenge I decided to use only things I already had in my garage, right down to an old rattle can for the spray paint job. I was a little bit liberal with the rules, counting no cost for things I had culled from the Box 'O Crap over the years. If your honest with yourself about the value of the parts you're using, you'll find that $100 is a really tight budget if you start with anything short of a ready to ride bike.
3. Rust or other health risks aren't required, but they significantly add to the satisfaction you'll get from the project.
4. I wouldn't put EMS in the budget. That's just the cost of doing business.
5. Yes, absolutely! But only if you have pictures and/or x-rays to prove it.
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04-30-21, 03:16 PM
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Those are the least of my worries. It's the "we don't need another bike" thing I need to find a work-around for. 
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The first year I did the challenge I used the stock saddle, which was an awful rubber a-hatchet with some rusty spring mechanism. I made it through the 100km, but I can tell you I didn't want to ever see that saddle again.
And to add insult to severe discomfort (not quite injury), not one but two people beat me out for the "best bum hatchet" award that year.
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non-fixie That thing looks great with those fenders and wire rack. If nothing else is salvagable, at least those were worth your investment.
The Van Schendel brothers, Albert and Antoon, were Dutch professional riders who lived in France and were part of the first Dutch team to participate in the TdF in 1936. Their careers were cut short by WWII, and after that they opened a bike shop in Toulouse, France. During their careers they've always ridden for France Sport.
Apparently this bike came from their shop.
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04-30-21, 03:52 PM
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This sounds like it can be done! Great solution!
Meh. It's all about what you want to do. Read over the threads for past challenges. Some people look for bargains like that and try to build the best bike they possibly can for $100. That can be fun. Others look for the absolute crappiest bike they can find and try to endure 100km riding it. That can be fun too, though I think there's a higher failure rate among this group. Want more fun? Put in two entries. Make the best bike you can out of the Nishiki, then go find the nastiest pile of rust you can get your (gloved) hands on and restore that.
The first year I did the challenge I used the stock saddle, which was an awful rubber a-hatchet with some rusty spring mechanism. I made it through the 100km, but I can tell you I didn't want to ever see that saddle again.
And to add insult to severe discomfort (not quite injury), not one but two people beat me out for the "best bum hatchet" award that year.
The first year I did the challenge I used the stock saddle, which was an awful rubber a-hatchet with some rusty spring mechanism. I made it through the 100km, but I can tell you I didn't want to ever see that saddle again.
And to add insult to severe discomfort (not quite injury), not one but two people beat me out for the "best bum hatchet" award that year.
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04-30-21, 03:57 PM
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No, not this year. I finally bit the bullet and tore into my catastrophe of a shop. I'm doing a major overhaul and deep purge. Adding lights, more electrical circuits, shelving, etc. I've already disposed of about 5 truckloads of vintage car parts, some tools I'll never use again or had never used and countless contractor bags full of "somebody may need it someday" stuff. My garbage men scowl when they see me now LOL. If any bikes get worked on before Fall it will be to get them ready to sell but most will get listed as is and I'm going to take a beating but I've determined room to work is worth it. I'll be lucky to have time to ride the ones that are done. All my parts I'm keeping are getting organized into labeled tubs and shelving instead of the hodge podge of carboard boxes, coffee cans, etc. I've been tripping over. It's way past time to put it all in order. My goal is a 50 to 60% reduction in the herd. I wish we had a bike co-op near me, I have a pile of good pieces off box store bikes I've parted out that will probably end up on a scrap dealer's truck. I've even tuned down free bikes, my wife is starting to worry about me LOL.
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This could be my second entry coming at $10.
I assume duct tape and paper clips have to be factored in.
I assume duct tape and paper clips have to be factored in.
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While riding a rusty heap is one approach, another is to completely transform something, but do it cheaply. I've managed that in a couple of earlier competitions.
I turned this:
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into this:
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And this:
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into this:
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I turned this:
VeloCheapo2010_1.jpginto this:
VeloCheapo2010_Entry004_4.jpgAnd this:
DSC00557.JPGinto this:
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You were able to do both of those under $100??? That is truly impressive work.
While riding a rusty heap is one approach, another is to completely transform something, but do it cheaply. I've managed that in a couple of earlier competitions.
I turned this:
VeloCheapo2010_1.jpg
into this:
VeloCheapo2010_Entry004_4.jpg
And this:
DSC00557.JPG
into this:
DSC00570.JPG
I turned this:
VeloCheapo2010_1.jpginto this:
VeloCheapo2010_Entry004_4.jpgAnd this:
DSC00557.JPGinto this:
DSC00570.JPG
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04-30-21, 04:28 PM
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Yeah, what was essential was that I trashed picked both frames. Everything else I had on hand. For the bars on the second bike, which are supposed to look like 1930s roadster bars, I used a tired jack to widen some cheapo no-name alloy bars from the 70s. Not advisable for a regular rider!
04-30-21, 06:41 PM
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Meh. It's all about what you want to do. Read over the threads for past challenges. Some people look for bargains like that and try to build the best bike they possibly can for $100. That can be fun. Others look for the absolute crappiest bike they can find and try to endure 100km riding it. That can be fun too, though I think there's a higher failure rate among this group. Want more fun? Put in two entries. Make the best bike you can out of the Nishiki, then go find the nastiest pile of rust you can get your (gloved) hands on and restore that.
The first year I did the challenge I used the stock saddle, which was an awful rubber a-hatchet with some rusty spring mechanism. I made it through the 100km, but I can tell you I didn't want to ever see that saddle again.
And to add insult to severe discomfort (not quite injury), not one but two people beat me out for the "best bum hatchet" award that year.
The first year I did the challenge I used the stock saddle, which was an awful rubber a-hatchet with some rusty spring mechanism. I made it through the 100km, but I can tell you I didn't want to ever see that saddle again.
And to add insult to severe discomfort (not quite injury), not one but two people beat me out for the "best bum hatchet" award that year.
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04-30-21, 06:44 PM
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Build the best bike or the worst bike you want. We like them all. I don't really have an excuse of why I have been very bad at choosing winners because I just didn't some years. Perhaps you guys would like to crown some category winners at the end too. That would be fun.
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There's always been disparate themes in how the challenge works, like nlerner and Lascauxcaveman demonstrated. Sometimes, it's completing a shoestring restoration of a worthy frame into a custom build, other times, it's taking a piece of junk and making it operational with other pieces of junk and grinding out 100 kms. I tend to appreciate both flavors; the more involved the transformation is, the better.
Last year I (sort of) entered two keepers: A Raleigh Supercourse and a Schwinn deluxe Racer 3 speed. Neither bike was getting a full restore with new paint and decals, but for different reasons. The Schwinn was a complete bike, but cosmetically challenged, while the Raleigh was missing parts and consumables to make it roadworthy. I lubed and polished the Schwinn, and polished and reassembled the Raleigh with some concessions due to the budget (who needs a functioning rear brake!
)
There's a Huffy phase one Aerowind lurking out there I keep picking at like a scab that I'd do for the sheer entertainment value of riding a 35lb aero monstrosity, but I should really spend my time getting a project finished to get it back on the road before doing something frivolous.
Last year I (sort of) entered two keepers: A Raleigh Supercourse and a Schwinn deluxe Racer 3 speed. Neither bike was getting a full restore with new paint and decals, but for different reasons. The Schwinn was a complete bike, but cosmetically challenged, while the Raleigh was missing parts and consumables to make it roadworthy. I lubed and polished the Schwinn, and polished and reassembled the Raleigh with some concessions due to the budget (who needs a functioning rear brake!
) There's a Huffy phase one Aerowind lurking out there I keep picking at like a scab that I'd do for the sheer entertainment value of riding a 35lb aero monstrosity, but I should really spend my time getting a project finished to get it back on the road before doing something frivolous.
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Just picked up my - or rather mrs non-fixie's - COVID Clunker 100 Challenge Contender, and it is definitely not better than it looked in the seller's pictures. Looks like I got my work cut out for me.
05-01-21, 12:45 PM
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Maybe this seller and the seller of that Super Course you had posted some time ago shared the same outdoor bike storage yard.
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but the upside is being able to find more classic and cool bikes!
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05-01-21, 02:24 PM
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Some where up there, hazetguy named his entry "I plead the filth". I think the plea should be rejected. This is filth:
But the headbadge is nice:
My entry is another relic of Britain's fashion for small wheelers in the '60s and 70's (I entered a Vindec a few challenges ago). This one is a Dawes Newpin, a better bike but in worse condition. Wheels and headset bearings wobble and rust is plentiful. All my driveside pictures were blurry so:
One unusual feature is the rear hub. There is a Sturmey-Archer 3-speed trigger and the hub looks the part. But:
The writing (much clearer than on an S-A hub) says: STYRIA 3-GANG, Made in Austria.
But the headbadge is nice:
My entry is another relic of Britain's fashion for small wheelers in the '60s and 70's (I entered a Vindec a few challenges ago). This one is a Dawes Newpin, a better bike but in worse condition. Wheels and headset bearings wobble and rust is plentiful. All my driveside pictures were blurry so:
One unusual feature is the rear hub. There is a Sturmey-Archer 3-speed trigger and the hub looks the part. But:
The writing (much clearer than on an S-A hub) says: STYRIA 3-GANG, Made in Austria.
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Maybe not too c or v, but it's what I got for $50 CAD yesterday. I was hoping it was 18" but it's 20".
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