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The Supertuck

Old 05-06-21, 10:35 PM
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The Supertuck

The supertuck, a classic descending position. It was recently banned by a racing authority because they don’t want amateurs getting injured. What is your opinion of the position? I like it a lot, it feels stable and saves me energy on my commute. I start supertucking much earlier than my fellow riders, around 20 mph, in order to save energy. Anyone else love the supertuck? I feel like this is something that fat guys really sleep on because it helps us disproportionality
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Originally Posted by cubewheels
I very much prefer the "dropper tuck" - doing it with dropper post.

Dropper tuck is A LOT safer and even faster than super tuck. Safety is obvious as you remain seated in your saddle, no further explanation needed.

Speed comes in the form of able to attack corners at higher speed than super tuck because you can maintain very low riding position during braking and turning without compromising your safety and handling of bike. The dropper tuck enables you to brake later and harder - an advantage in any form of vehicle racing.

Speed also comes in the form of able to pedal when the gradient starts to flatten or becomes flat or even positive momentarily and you're still above 40 mph. You can pedal to help conserve momentum in the dropper tuck..... But you can't do it in the super tuck because you have to get back to your high seat which means you'll lose more speed from the increased drag even if you're pedaling at high effort.
dropper tuck?? Do you mean having a dropper seatpost like a mountain bike? Is that a thing? That’s super sick if I’m imagining what I think you’re saying. That’s actually hilarious if people are out there with dropper posts for aero reasons, love to see it

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Originally Posted by LarrySellerz
The supertuck, a classic descending position. It was recently banned by a racing authority because they don’t want amateurs getting injured. What is your opinion of the position? I like it a lot, it feels stable and saves me energy on my commute. I start supertucking much earlier than my fellow riders, around 20 mph, in order to save energy. Anyone else love the supertuck? I feel like this is something that fat guys really sleep on because it helps us disproportionality
You probably have a different definition of "stable" in view of the unequal length aerobars made from a small diameter copper pipe bent into a U shape and zip tied to your flat handlebars, as shown here: Bike Forums - View Single Post - Getting dropped on hills.
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Originally Posted by SoSmellyAir
You probably have a different definition of "stable" in view of the unequal length aerobars made from a small diameter copper pipe bent into a U shape and zip tied to your flat handlebars, as shown here: Bike Forums - View Single Post - Getting dropped on hills.
Those aren't aerobars, they are water divining rods. The weight savings from not having to carry an extra bison (I love auto correct) are stupendous. Actually that bike could probably fit a small bison in the rear crate.
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Originally Posted by SoSmellyAir
You probably have a different definition of "stable" in view of the unequal length aerobars made from a small diameter copper pipe bent into a U shape and zip tied to your flat handlebars, as shown here: Bike Forums - View Single Post - Getting dropped on hills.
You forgot the milk crate on the back.
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Originally Posted by cubewheels
Safety and speed, exactly the same reasons MTB'ers have it. Here's GCN video (my riding position is even lower and more aero).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeEaeY25Amg

that’s absolutely insane hahaha. Never knew that was a thing, super rad!! Also guys the supertuck is stable my aerobars less so, I won’t descend on my aerobars but I stay supertucked.
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Originally Posted by SoSmellyAir
You probably have a different definition of "stable" in view of the unequal length aerobars made from a small diameter copper pipe bent into a U shape and zip tied to your flat handlebars, as shown here: Bike Forums - View Single Post - Getting dropped on hills.
those give me a fighting chance against the all but the fastest guys. I can sustain 20+ mph in my aerobars for short spurts, no way can I do that without an aggressive riding position. It’s not the safest or the most comfortable, but we all make some sacrifices for speed.

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Some supertuck porn curtesy of the one and only SAFA Brian.
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This one's OK but I really think you should step up your game with thread about droping the hamer on the MUP and passing an ebike.
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Originally Posted by ksryder
This one's OK but I really think you should step up your game with thread about droping the hamer on the MUP and passing an ebike.
I never pass ebikes, draft those dudes all day.
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Originally Posted by LarrySellerz
those give me a fighting chance against the all but the fastest guys. I can sustain 20+ mph in my aerobars for short spurts, no way can I do that without an aggressive riding position. It’s not the safest or the most comfortable, but we all make some sacrifices for speed.

Not all...


Not like that.


*EDIT you do you.

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Originally Posted by larrysellerz
those give me a fighting chance against the all but the fastest guys. I can sustain 20+ mph in my aerobars for short spurts, no way can i do that without an aggressive riding position. It’s not the safest or the most comfortable, but we all make some sacrifices for speed.
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The supertuck is so 10 years ago. The cool guys today are doing the SuperMAN tuck.

Including the coolest of them all, Sagan.




Pretty sure the UCI hasn't banned this one. Yet.
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Originally Posted by terrymorse
The supertuck is so 10 years ago. The cool guys today are doing the SuperMAN tuck.

Including the coolest of them all, Sagan.




Pretty sure the UCI hasn't banned this one. Yet.
I REALLY want to learn how to do this. So badly. It’s hard I’ve had little success.

the supertuck is legitimately super stable and feels super nice. One of my favorites is passing groups/a person right before a hill and then starting the supertuck at like 10-15 mph. Just build that speed and showcase the aerodynamic power without using any energy, I feel so powerful.

Also you are laser focused when tucking, look at that dudes face in the Superman, he means serious business

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Obree did that years ago.
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Originally Posted by MinnMan
Obree did that years ago.

Wtf am I looking at in this picture. What a radical bike?!!!!!
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Originally Posted by MinnMan
Obree did that years ago.
Obree is one half mad scientist, one half lungs.
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I have tried it.
Didn't like it.
Never felt the need for it.
Never had trouble keeping up with others while descending sitting on my seat.
Maybe if you suck at climbing and need to get on the back of the group it could be helpful.
Or if you want to ride off the front.
Neither of those apply for me.
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Originally Posted by terrymorse
The supertuck is so 10 years ago. The cool guys today are doing the SuperMAN tuck.

Including the coolest of them all, Sagan.




Pretty sure the UCI hasn't banned this one. Yet.
This picture could be 10 years old. At least 8.
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Originally Posted by colnago62
This picture could be 10 years old. At least 8.
Rollie Free used it at Bonneville in 1948, so not quite a new idea.
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Originally Posted by Dean V
Rollie Free used it at Bonneville in 1948, so not quite a new idea.
And Rollie stripped down to a bathing suit, because his leathers were causing too much drag. That's dedication.

Not a UCI-legal kit, however.


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Originally Posted by Dean V
I have tried it.
Didn't like it.
Never felt the need for it.
Never had trouble keeping up with others while descending sitting on my seat.
Maybe if you suck at climbing and need to get on the back of the group it could be helpful.
Or if you want to ride off the front.
Neither of those apply for me.
not gonna lie to you dean I kind of suck at climbing so yeah
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Originally Posted by MinnMan
Obree did that years ago.
Seems better to have the crank mounted somewhere above the rear wheel. Shorter chain run, and weight reduction from elimination of copper pedal extenders. Also, seems like the padding should be on his jersey, not on the seat of his shorts/bibs.
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