Giant Halfway - what a weird bike
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Giant Halfway - what a weird bike
Here is a video of one which is very similar to this year's model. I went into my local bike shop today. Basically my car was having an MOT done next door so spent a bit of time browsing. This was the only folding bike I could see although the store is quite large and I didn't see everything.
I guess its obvious looking at the name now but the bike has a single fork and single chainstay and seatstay. No doubt to allow a very slim fold. The bike looks great quality with very good quality welds and finish. The drivetrain is a mixture of good and bad. A Claris derailleur matched to a basic Shimano freewheel. Maybe the freewheel was somehow forced into the mix due to the use of a single chainstay/seatstay. Quite an eccentric bike design for what is a fairly reasonable price. I didn't realise the Halfway was designed this way until I actually saw it in the flesh. I hadn't noticed it on the images previously.
I guess its obvious looking at the name now but the bike has a single fork and single chainstay and seatstay. No doubt to allow a very slim fold. The bike looks great quality with very good quality welds and finish. The drivetrain is a mixture of good and bad. A Claris derailleur matched to a basic Shimano freewheel. Maybe the freewheel was somehow forced into the mix due to the use of a single chainstay/seatstay. Quite an eccentric bike design for what is a fairly reasonable price. I didn't realise the Halfway was designed this way until I actually saw it in the flesh. I hadn't noticed it on the images previously.
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The video doesn't work. I suspect it is the new people who are running the forum. I keep getting noifications for quotes that when I click on them send me to my profile page not to the quote page. Hopefully this will get better with time. For now I wish they would stop sending me E-Mails that go no place. Roger
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The video doesn't work. I suspect it is the new people who are running the forum. I keep getting noifications for quotes that when I click on them send me to my profile page not to the quote page. Hopefully this will get better with time. For now I wish they would stop sending me E-Mails that go no place. Roger
didn't see anything new or exciting on that bike...
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It's certainly on topic as this is a foldling bike forum and as far as I can see this forum isn't being over-run with Giant Halfway postings anyway.Maybe I was hoping to see a few replies from owners about how the bike holds up on a daily basis and the strength of this design.
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Well its definitely not new as the bike has been sold for many years and exciting probably not applicable either but when it comes to folding bikes this Giant model is rarely mentioned on this forum and seems a significant radical design compared to its competition. The fork reminds me of Cannondale's Lefty design and while that fork seemed to have little advantage to mountain bikes and could be claimed to be more of a gimmick at least on the Giant it helps with folding to a small size.
It's certainly on topic as this is a foldling bike forum and as far as I can see this forum isn't being over-run with Giant Halfway postings anyway.Maybe I was hoping to see a few replies from owners about how the bike holds up on a daily basis and the strength of this design.
It's certainly on topic as this is a foldling bike forum and as far as I can see this forum isn't being over-run with Giant Halfway postings anyway.Maybe I was hoping to see a few replies from owners about how the bike holds up on a daily basis and the strength of this design.
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They show up around here on Craigslist occasionally. It's a fascinating design .
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We certainly have one owner posting as evidenced here.
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AFAIK the design is by Burroughs. I think done to save weight. It also makes fixing flats easy. Myself, I would like fenders but that would be contrary to the design.
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Not likely possible. Disk brake calipers generally (if not universally) require mounting brackets which are integral with the rear frame and the fork. On a bike with a normal fork, the fork can be replaced with another which has the required mounts. That's not possible with this bike, unless you can weld the necessary brackets onto th efork and frame. So... not likely possible.
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I saw the thread title, and jumped in, because I've got one of these. And then I realized it was a zombie.
It's a nice folding bike. It works for me. I use it nearly every day to commute to work from Brooklyn to midtown Manhattan.
I have to say, it doesn't seem to have any radical advantages over a more conventional folding bike. Yes, you can remove a tire without removing the wheel, but really, how often do you have to do that? I've done it only when I'm replacing tires. It's easy enough to patch a tube without removing the whole tire, and it would be just as easy on a conventionally-framed bike. Also, it doesn't have quick-release hubs. You need a 13mm socket to remove the wheel, which isn't likely to be in your little commuter pocket tool kit. Wheel removal isn't any easier than it would be on a normal bike.
I suppose it folds up a bit thinner than a conventional frame and, depending on your storage situation, this might be useful. But it's not a huge difference.
So, yes, it looks different, it's fun, but I can't see any practical difference in day-to-day use between this and, say, a Dahon.
It's a nice folding bike. It works for me. I use it nearly every day to commute to work from Brooklyn to midtown Manhattan.
I have to say, it doesn't seem to have any radical advantages over a more conventional folding bike. Yes, you can remove a tire without removing the wheel, but really, how often do you have to do that? I've done it only when I'm replacing tires. It's easy enough to patch a tube without removing the whole tire, and it would be just as easy on a conventionally-framed bike. Also, it doesn't have quick-release hubs. You need a 13mm socket to remove the wheel, which isn't likely to be in your little commuter pocket tool kit. Wheel removal isn't any easier than it would be on a normal bike.
I suppose it folds up a bit thinner than a conventional frame and, depending on your storage situation, this might be useful. But it's not a huge difference.
So, yes, it looks different, it's fun, but I can't see any practical difference in day-to-day use between this and, say, a Dahon.
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I saw the thread title, and jumped in, because I've got one of these. And then I realized it was a zombie.
AFAIK the design is by Burroughs. I think done to save weight. It also makes fixing flats easy. Myself, I would like fenders but that would be contrary to the design.
BTW, the Strida folding bike has been single-sided front & rear since the mid-1980s and has always had fenders.
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Originally Posted by tds101
Not possible, as the side of the frame/fork needed to mount the brakes doesn't exist.
Just how?
Either with a mirrored caliper (Strida) - or with a common caliper which is operated against its normal rotation direction (IFMove).
I do not think it would be a good idea to try converting.
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Seriously? You are going to defend pulling up four year old threads and appending to them without mentioning the fact, by saying people complain? GTFOH. The 1/2way hasn't been made for years. That's what tipped me off. What if I didn't know that? And, as zombie threads go this one doesn't even take the cake. I've seen 15 year old threads resurrected. That can really get surreal. We're better than that. Or should be.
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I saw the thread title, and jumped in, because I've got one of these. And then I realized it was a zombie.
It's a nice folding bike. It works for me. I use it nearly every day to commute to work from Brooklyn to midtown Manhattan.
I have to say, it doesn't seem to have any radical advantages over a more conventional folding bike. Yes, you can remove a tire without removing the wheel, but really, how often do you have to do that? I've done it only when I'm replacing tires. It's easy enough to patch a tube without removing the whole tire, and it would be just as easy on a conventionally-framed bike. Also, it doesn't have quick-release hubs. You need a 13mm socket to remove the wheel, which isn't likely to be in your little commuter pocket tool kit. Wheel removal isn't any easier than it would be on a normal bike.
I suppose it folds up a bit thinner than a conventional frame and, depending on your storage situation, this might be useful. But it's not a huge difference.
So, yes, it looks different, it's fun, but I can't see any practical difference in day-to-day use between this and, say, a Dahon.
It's a nice folding bike. It works for me. I use it nearly every day to commute to work from Brooklyn to midtown Manhattan.
I have to say, it doesn't seem to have any radical advantages over a more conventional folding bike. Yes, you can remove a tire without removing the wheel, but really, how often do you have to do that? I've done it only when I'm replacing tires. It's easy enough to patch a tube without removing the whole tire, and it would be just as easy on a conventionally-framed bike. Also, it doesn't have quick-release hubs. You need a 13mm socket to remove the wheel, which isn't likely to be in your little commuter pocket tool kit. Wheel removal isn't any easier than it would be on a normal bike.
I suppose it folds up a bit thinner than a conventional frame and, depending on your storage situation, this might be useful. But it's not a huge difference.
So, yes, it looks different, it's fun, but I can't see any practical difference in day-to-day use between this and, say, a Dahon.
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link?
My solution is to run tubeless and if I blow a flat to put in a 2 sided tube until I can patch the hole.
My solution is to run tubeless and if I blow a flat to put in a 2 sided tube until I can patch the hole.
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Originally Posted by seibaatgung
Isn't that how project right is done?
Which project?
If the project is the complete construction of a bike - obviously, the answer is Yes, because Ming and Pacific did.
(All I wanted was to point out that this is possible - even with missing fork/frame side.)
If the project is the "converting" of a bike's brakes - certainly No.
(Even if you're able to source a caliper which is certified for a backwards rotating disc, the situation is still the same like mentioned already by sweeks in post #11 above.)
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