koenbro 

I have ordered the Travel Kuppe and it has already been delivered this morning (Amazon same day). Fits well, although in the attached letter the founder recommends carbon cages to prevent rattling. From the sound of it “carbon” sounds expensive so I’ll see if some of the plastic cages that I have to do the job.

Otherwise the bottle looks like a quality product. I’ll give it the field test and come back with impressions

Sy Reene

You might be able to hack a fix by putting some black electrical tape on the cage or bottle where the contact points might rattle.

koenbro 

Yeah, liking that

Razorrock

Here is something I have noticed.

I fill 2 polar type bottles with ice from home then top off with water, so probably 1/4 water 3/4 ice. I drink from one until it is empty. a lot of times there is a couple small pieces of ice rattling around after I drink the last bit of water. But when I grab the second untouched bottle, all of the ice has melted and the water is cold but not ice cold. The higher percent of water to ice warms faster.

So now on a hot day I drink 1/2 of first bottle then switch out and start drinking from second. With this method I can have ice water for nearly 2 hours.

Bimmer69

I do something similar.
3-4 ice cubes in a 32oz insulated vacuum steel bottle, topped off with refrigerator temp water. Stays cold for 3-4 hours.

I also freeze a regular 500ml water bottle to use as an ice pack for snacks. When that melts I have an “emergency” 500ml bottle of cold water. Usually don’t need it but it’s there just in case.

veganbikes

Another vote for Camelbak Podium bottles. I like the Ice bottles in that line, I believe they use Aerogel for the insulation which is pretty light and works really well. I do put ice in the bottles if I need it colder and if I need it really cold I will freeze a bit of water in the bottle but because the Ice bottles work well I tend not to do that so I have more water to drink.

I have used a lot of bottles over time and get a lot of free ones but I still would pay money for a Camelbak over 20 free bottles.

JohnDThompson 

The best bottles I've used are the Camelback "Podium" and Triplex (not widely distributed outside Europe). I'm not a big fan of insulated bottles; total volume is more important than the temperature of the contents, and effective insulation significantly decreases volume capacity. While the Midwest doesn't get as hot as Arizona, our humidity is far higher here, which means sweating doesn't cool you as effectively as it would in Arizona.

Thinking of our Hmong families (from Laos, in Southeast Asia), I've found the elders will not drink cold water even on the hottest days. The need for cold drinks seems to be a cultural affectation, not a physiological necessity.

koenbro 

Not sure why tribal elders’ beliefs are relevant. Do you follow their guidance in other areas of health as well?

dmanthree

Same for me. The insulated bottles just don't last long enough to justify their existence (for me...). More liquid is better.

JohnDThompson 

The Hmong are indigenous to an area with year-round high heat and humidity. Drinking ambient temperature water keeps them well hydrated without a need for cold fluids.

You may have a preference for cold fluids, but that's all it is. Adequate hydration is far more important than the temperature of what you drink, and my preference is to carry sufficient fluids and not worry about the temperature of said fluids.

MNebiker

I've got a couple of Polar insulated bottles that are probably 7 or 8 years old now. Insulation is so-so, but they are adequate, cheap, and take abuse. I fill them about half full with ice, and the liquid stays cool for about 2 hours on a moderate day. Only complaint is that the cap does not seal that well, and sometimes leaks onto the frame.

kahn

I've always been of the mind, if it is wet, I'm good. Colder water may be refreshing and I guess if you are somewhat overheated it might help reduce body temp. But I just want water.

Gconan

Sy Reene

Just speaking for myself, I wouldn't be interested in solutions that require two hands to get a sip.

Gconan

I need the extra water. I pull up, straddle the bike and take a nice two handed drink then get going again.

Sy Reene

What would be perfect for you is one of those bottles, but with the lid technology on the Bivo. And why on those bottles you showed, don't the makers just build in a little indent for standard bottle cages to hold better?
https://cyclingtips.com/2021/01/bivo...cusing-on-air/

skidder

Depends how you define 'quality.' I use the standard water bottles found in bike shops, Walmart, REI, and other similar places. I don't particularly like the drinking methodology necessary while riding so I'll occasionally stop and take a 'chug' on a long ride. It works for me, so that's my level of quality. I also use the freezing half-filled water bottles in the freezer method for keeping cool water on hand, too.

Those Nalgene water bottle holders shown above look interesting. Anybody have a link to a website where they can be purchased? (I've got lots of 1-liter bottles).

rydabent

The only quality water bottles are made of stainless steel--------------period.

veloz

Polar. Fill full with ice, then h2o and chill for a few. It will still be cool at 1.5 hours even at 100 degrees. In heat you should be drinking at least one bottle per hour so 2 will usually cover until you can refill or take a break.

downhillmaster

Leave your nasty paws off any cans that you aren’t buying.
That’s just as silly as it is nasty and didn’t fly even pre-pandemic.

Doc_Wui

I found an older Contigo by the side of the gravel bike path. It had been there a month, and maybe because of Covid, no one picked it up. I was not too proud to take it home when I saw it a second time. Would you believe the water inside was still cold?

Nah. It was dry, so I sterilized the heck out of it and put it back in service. Keeps ice for 8 hours outside. Good design. steel insulated body. No leak plastic top, I hear they cost about 20 bucks.

10 Wheels

Go get Drunk again.
My hands are always clean , I wear Gloves

fooferdoggie 

see I am starting to wonder if plastic works better in this case then metal. when ti is warm 80 or so I have used our yeti bottles with about 1/3 ice and Goldwater and the ice ins gone in less then two hours. Now these are bout the best insulated metal bottles out there. heavy and work great when it is just sitting around. but when the bottle move like in the panner or my backpack the ice melts fast.

Bimmer69

You could wrap them in a towel or bubble wrap to further insulate them.

Bimmer69

Kleen Kanteen makes a sport top for most of their bottles. They include a small one-way silicone valve in the lid. It does leak if you tip it on its side.
Additionally the sport tops fit other bottles.