I'm curious - why frame bags versus water bottle cages?
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Decades ago I had a single bottle holder that was in front of the handlebar, the bottle was centered over the tire. And if I had ice water in the bottle on a hot and humid day, the condensation on the bottle would drip onto the rotating tire a few times every minute, and each drop would result in riding through cooler air for a split second as the cold water vaporized from hitting the rotating tire.
I use the modern version of that, but yes. I use a Gibby bag from Swift Industries on one bike and the Po Campo Willis Stem bag on another.
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It so depends on what you're doing. I've spent a few months riding around the U.S. desert southwest in 100+ degree temps and it would be difficult to carry enough water with a bike packing setup. Some days, I set out with 12-14 liters of water. A four-pannier setup allows plenty of room for water as well as easy access to gear thought the day. I never have a stack across the back, just four bags and handlebar bag.
This was during a stop in the shade of the Amargosa Opera house in Death Valley Junction Sept 2019.
This was during a stop in the shade of the Amargosa Opera house in Death Valley Junction Sept 2019.

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The piece I don't get - on a bike intended for bike packing, why the sloped top tube? Horizontal or close gives you room for the same top tube bag and much better access to both water bottles. This just strikes me as a no-brainer. Not that this is an issue for me. I stay on pavement and reserve my top tube for the pump. (As important as water is for me, air is more so for the bike.)
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If you're tall enough, you can have both!
I dig this setup, because there's a bunch of stuff - mainly bike tools, spare parts / tubes, pump, first aid kit, etc. - that I can just leave on the bike.
It makes unpacking & packing significantly easier, and puts a bunch of the heaviest stuff right between the wheels, so it's stable.
This picture's old, so since it was taken (7 years ago) I've gotten a custom fork with anything cage mounts so I can throw two more water bottles on the fork if I want.
I dig this setup, because there's a bunch of stuff - mainly bike tools, spare parts / tubes, pump, first aid kit, etc. - that I can just leave on the bike.
It makes unpacking & packing significantly easier, and puts a bunch of the heaviest stuff right between the wheels, so it's stable.
This picture's old, so since it was taken (7 years ago) I've gotten a custom fork with anything cage mounts so I can throw two more water bottles on the fork if I want.

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Btw, your fingers will come nowhere near the spokes so there’s no danger there.

Last edited by roadfix; 10-07-23 at 08:54 AM.