brake caliper suggestions?
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I spent a big chunk of the day today trying various options and in the end went with Clarks X pads in original Weinmann holders. So far seem to work alright, judging by a short test ride. Nowhere close Vainqueur with Kool-Stops, but acceptable. Tomorrow I'll ride that bike to the office, just finished putting it together and need a longer ride to test the brakes and get used to friction shifting again. Next month, when I build a new wheelset, I might look for some Weinmann compatible Kool Stop pads.
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If you're accustomed to the mechanical advantage of dual-pivot calipers, braking with a single-pivot side pull can be disconcerting. Like you, I have no problem stopping my bike with Campagnolo Record side-pulls and their various clones from SunTour, Gran Compe, etc. But it does take decidedly more effort than a dual-pivot caliper.
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Update: I bought a pair of Shimano double-pivot calipers and installed the front one this morning, with brand-new KoolStop black (what I had in my stash) pads instead of the OEM Shimano pads. What a difference!!! As soon as I recover from my second COVID booster (1-degree temperature elevation, just enough to make me feel like cr@p) and feel a bit better, I'll do the rear. I get the point about modulation with the old brakes, but I think I can easily control these safely without skidding out or flipping over the bars. These have not only increased leverage, but also reduced return spring tension, and braking from the hoods now feels super-secure.
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Update: I bought a pair of Shimano double-pivot calipers and installed the front one this morning, with brand-new KoolStop black (what I had in my stash) pads instead of the OEM Shimano pads. What a difference!!! As soon as I recover from my second COVID booster (1-degree temperature elevation, just enough to make me feel like cr@p) and feel a bit better, I'll do the rear. I get the point about modulation with the old brakes, but I think I can easily control these safely without skidding out or flipping over the bars. These have not only increased leverage, but also reduced return spring tension, and braking from the hoods now feels super-secure.
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A friend recently had a quite unpleasant accident caused by having to use the front brake aggresively whilst going downhill. I never quite understood why people would use the front brake and never use it unless the rear one is fully engaged already (which is enough to stop me usually), but judging by how many people seem to be using the front one more, I'm probably just weird or something Yeah, I know the front one is always stronger (which is also why I wouldn't use it on its own).
I, too, have a friend who got into a nasty over-the-bars crash.
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Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
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Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
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Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
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Read Sheldon Brown on bicycle brakes. The shortest possible stopping distance is obtained when the rear tire just starts to lose traction. In this case, the front brake is providing all of the stopping power, and the rear brake is used to alert the rider of rear wheel lift-off. Shifting one's weight back in the saddle improves braking performance by reducing rear tire lift-off. For routine stops I normally use both brakes together, unless I need to give a hand signal when approaching a turn.
I, too, have a friend who got into a nasty over-the-bars crash.
I, too, have a friend who got into a nasty over-the-bars crash.
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Those are nice brakes. If your levers are SLR, they cannot be improved upon.
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One more update:
1) delighted with stopping power of both brakes;
2) astonished by the very light return spring tension of the calipers, compared to Campag.; no "third hand" tool required when setting cable length
3) rear caliper has trouble pulling the cable all the way back; I have ordered a set of Shimano Dura-Ace BC-9000, since my brake cables are old, anyway (housings at least are OEM from late 1981/early 1982);
1) delighted with stopping power of both brakes;
2) astonished by the very light return spring tension of the calipers, compared to Campag.; no "third hand" tool required when setting cable length
3) rear caliper has trouble pulling the cable all the way back; I have ordered a set of Shimano Dura-Ace BC-9000, since my brake cables are old, anyway (housings at least are OEM from late 1981/early 1982);
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Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
"Far and away the best prize that life offers is the chance to work hard at work worth doing." --Theodore Roosevelt
Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069