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Old 05-29-23, 07:16 PM
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The hard part will be installation; Pressing the unworked portion of shim past the frame protrusions. But the end result is the two parts will fit like an interlocking puzzle piece.
The original shim was somehow press fit in there so the new one should also, especially with a little excess material removed around the welds.

I remembered that I have some 4 foot pipe clamps that I use for woodworking. One of these might make a good press for installing the the new shim.
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Here is a way to make a controlled depth metal removing tool:


Controlled depth metal remover



2 layers of duct tape is good for .007"

The tape sections were spaced to ride past the weld area or from the top of the tube to the weld area.
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Originally Posted by Steve_sr
The original shim was somehow press fit in there so the new one should also, especially with a little excess material removed around the welds.
Agreed, especially "lubed" with Loctite.
I remembered that I have some 4 foot pipe clamps that I use for woodworking. One of these might make a good press for installing the the new shim.
Don't crush the BB shell though. Not sure how likely that is, but to be safe, do it with BB cups installed, and something (piece of wood?) to spread the force to both sides of the shell, not just in the middle between the cups.

Let us know how it goes!
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Old 05-29-23, 07:49 PM
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I spent some time using the above tool and was somewhat surprised to find that some of the areas that seemed worse would not hit the file teeth while other areas that looked good did hit. This confirms others thoughts that the tube is deformed by the welding process. The left and right side seemed to be the worst for deformation (or perhaps indentation). Here are a couple of photos of the results.



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Old 05-29-23, 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by bulgie
Agreed, especially "lubed" with Loctite.
Actually, I am going to use the J-B Qwik-Weld as the builder used before as it would be good for filling the many gaps around the weld area. I am not sure that Loctite would be able to fill gaps that size and support the shear load when the new shim is reamed.

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Don't crush the BB shell though. Not sure how likely that is, but to be safe, do it with BB cups installed, and something (piece of wood?) to spread the force to both sides of the shell, not just in the middle between the cups.
BB cups are still installed and I made a special cradle out of a 2x4 scrap with a relief for the hoses and cables going under the BB. There is about 3/4" of wood on each side of the BB to support the shell.
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Well, it is getting closer to champagne time. I took advantage of some cooler weather to slow down the curing of the glue. I also decided to use my woodworking pipe clamp to press the new sleeve in. I am glad that I did as it took every bit of strength on the crank to press the sleeve in. Based on this the old shim would NEVER have come out without cutting the relief slot in it. In retrospect the threads on the clamp are pretty coarse.

That J-B Qwik sure sets up FAST! Really too fast for this kind of operation. The only good thing is that the excess epoxy that got pushed off the bottom of the shim was pretty much setup before I could scrape it out of the bore. Good thing that It didn't stick to anything critical. Maybe that is why they use this type of epoxy.

A couple of photos are posted below. The next step is to find (or become) the guy with the reamer.



Clamp / Press setup

Bottom Bracket Support

Shim Seated!
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