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French Threaded pedals
I'm looking to find some good french alternative pedals perhaps. I realize I can use an English Tap to scale up to the standards but just wondering if anyone has a suggestion for my Stronglight 93? I really dont want to mess with the crank as it's original to the bike and in excellent condition. I would like to keep it true.
Thanks for any help..
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Ebay France always has an abundance of listings, or Ebay US. You can search for things like "french thread pedals" or "pedales 14 1.25," (with and without decimal, denoting the thread pitch).
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Without knowing anything about the bike, or your prefrences, I'd suggest to look for the Lyotard 460D. Very nice and very versatile pedals.
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Thanks for the replies all. It's a '71 PX-10 that is about 90% original in really nice condition. I'll take a look at those pedals on velobase.
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I also don't like retapping cranks. I have several bikes with Stronglight 93 cranks, some of which are French threaded, and some English.
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Try Lyotard 45 CAs. They are light, pretty and easy to rebuild/service.
Try Lyotard 45 CAs. They are light, pretty and easy to rebuild/service.
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I'm looking to find some good french alternative pedals perhaps. I realize I can use an English Tap to scale up to the standards but just wondering if anyone has a suggestion for my Stronglight 93? I really dont want to mess with the crank as it's original to the bike and in excellent condition. I would like to keep it true.
Thanks for any help..
Thanks for any help..
I'd also avoid any without specific holes (or slots like the Atom 440s). I would be wary of any of the Atoms, nice though they may look; some of the 600's were not rebuildable, and they often needed it; the cones are too thin near the edge of the race and bits break off. I haven't checked a set of 440s to see if they have the same cones.
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I'd avoid any Lyotard with a built-up central barrel - the ones with a separate tube between the two cups. Those always get bent and/or the bearings get mis-adjusted. As well, Lyotards with a (supposedly) welded mid-barrel support strut often have had that weld break (so often that I wonder if it was just the plating that was supposed to hold them in place).
I'd also avoid any without specific holes (or slots like the Atom 440s). I would be wary of any of the Atoms, nice though they may look; some of the 600's were not rebuildable, and they often needed it; the cones are too thin near the edge of the race and bits break off. I haven't checked a set of 440s to see if they have the same cones.
I'd also avoid any without specific holes (or slots like the Atom 440s). I would be wary of any of the Atoms, nice though they may look; some of the 600's were not rebuildable, and they often needed it; the cones are too thin near the edge of the race and bits break off. I haven't checked a set of 440s to see if they have the same cones.
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...may I ask, without getting into too much drama, why the guys who don't want to retap standard are so averse to doing so ? I have wide feet, and were it not for retapping the French cranks I ride, I would not be riding them much. The availability of some very well made MKS pedals that are visually similar to some of the old French standards has helped me in this.
But it's not like anyone can see the size of the hole or the pedal threading in your crank arm. And retapping them just makes my life so much easier.
Again, no judgement from me about "all original". But is that the only reason ? I can't think of another.
...may I ask, without getting into too much drama, why the guys who don't want to retap standard are so averse to doing so ? I have wide feet, and were it not for retapping the French cranks I ride, I would not be riding them much. The availability of some very well made MKS pedals that are visually similar to some of the old French standards has helped me in this.
But it's not like anyone can see the size of the hole or the pedal threading in your crank arm. And retapping them just makes my life so much easier.
Again, no judgement from me about "all original". But is that the only reason ? I can't think of another.
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I'm surprised nobody's mentioned the venerable Lyotard Berthet pedals. These are still available somewhat affordably in spite of the current craze over old French things. They're easy to flip and good for wide feet and flexy shoes.
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...may I ask, without getting into too much drama, why the guys who don't want to retap standard are so averse to doing so ? I have wide feet, and were it not for retapping the French cranks I ride, I would not be riding them much. The availability of some very well made MKS pedals that are visually similar to some of the old French standards has helped me in this.
But it's not like anyone can see the size of the hole or the pedal threading in your crank arm. And retapping them just makes my life so much easier.
Again, no judgement from me about "all original". But is that the only reason ? I can't think of another.
...may I ask, without getting into too much drama, why the guys who don't want to retap standard are so averse to doing so ? I have wide feet, and were it not for retapping the French cranks I ride, I would not be riding them much. The availability of some very well made MKS pedals that are visually similar to some of the old French standards has helped me in this.
But it's not like anyone can see the size of the hole or the pedal threading in your crank arm. And retapping them just makes my life so much easier.
Again, no judgement from me about "all original". But is that the only reason ? I can't think of another.
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...may I ask, without getting into too much drama, why the guys who don't want to retap standard are so averse to doing so ? I have wide feet, and were it not for retapping the French cranks I ride, I would not be riding them much. The availability of some very well made MKS pedals that are visually similar to some of the old French standards has helped me in this.
But it's not like anyone can see the size of the hole or the pedal threading in your crank arm. And retapping them just makes my life so much easier.
Again, no judgement from me about "all original". But is that the only reason ? I can't think of another.
...may I ask, without getting into too much drama, why the guys who don't want to retap standard are so averse to doing so ? I have wide feet, and were it not for retapping the French cranks I ride, I would not be riding them much. The availability of some very well made MKS pedals that are visually similar to some of the old French standards has helped me in this.
But it's not like anyone can see the size of the hole or the pedal threading in your crank arm. And retapping them just makes my life so much easier.
Again, no judgement from me about "all original". But is that the only reason ? I can't think of another.
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...I can buy these online for about 50 bucks a pair, and IMO they are better constructed pedals. Just my opinion.
I just came in from rethreading a French bike cottered crank to do that, which is why it comes to mind.
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I generally have no problem rethreading the French cranks but I have a PX-10 that is in pretty rough shape that had some standard pedals jammed in and I wanted it to stay original.
Got them out, got some French pedals for donor spindles, made chasers, fixed that, got some French Campy spindles for this, then made chasers out of the standard Campy spindles since I find Campy's to be very tight in some cranks.
BB was the same, crossthreaded, very bunged up with neither side original Stronglight threading in all the way, chased and fixed that too so all good, still French and will live on.
Got them out, got some French pedals for donor spindles, made chasers, fixed that, got some French Campy spindles for this, then made chasers out of the standard Campy spindles since I find Campy's to be very tight in some cranks.
BB was the same, crossthreaded, very bunged up with neither side original Stronglight threading in all the way, chased and fixed that too so all good, still French and will live on.
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Yeah, the Berthet is one of the most knocked-off pedals in history! I have a pair of SR SP-11 on my Ron Cooper, but I really wish I could afford the White Industries Berthet knockoff.
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