Milton Keynes

Too bad there's not enough room for "Dial it up to 400W."

Iride01 

Little late to the party aren't y'all? Or is yous guys more proper?

I did that roughly 70 post's back. <grin>

livedarklions

Also, it's a silly question. If most people have been using a word "wrong" for centuries, of course that wrong becomes right. It's a living language, not a set of definitions frozen at some arbitrary time.

Does it drive such people crazy that "sanction" means both "approve" and "punish", but in Latin means "make holy"? How many levels of "wrong" is that development?

kahn

Oh, kind of like the Constitution!!!!

livedarklions

Whether or not a constitution is fixed in time is a fit subject for an argument. However, the only languages that don't evolve are dead languages.
I'm pretty sure no one really believes that we're still supposed to be speaking Chaucerian or even Shakespearean English, but thy mileage mayhaps varieth. .

genejockey 

The other thing? In Middle English, and pretty much through Shakespeare's day, spelling was....flexible.

genejockey 

I believe it's properly spelled "youse".

Unless you're from Pittsburgh, in which case it's "yinz".

livedarklions

U.S. Constitution, Article 1, Section 2:
The House of Representatives shall chuse their Speaker

fredlord

I have rang him many times.
She has swam the English channel.
They have rode that track before.
He got ran over.

Rung
Swum
Ridden
Run

Jax Rhapsody

Damn... I thought I was too tall to have jokes go over my head.

prairiepedaler

Out of curiosity, does a "smart" phone autocorrect spelling for the user when they are chimping a text together to default output 'breaks' rather than brakes?

Thanks,
Break Leavers to Beever

Squeeze

Dan Carlin fan?

(he reminded me of its original meaning in one of his excellent podcasts)

indyfabz

Kurtis Blow is the authority on breaks and brakes.

Squeeze

Oh, and while I'm here...

"Price point" means price. Why add an extra word?

Why did someone make up "colorway"? What's wrong with "color" or "colors"?



Yeah, I know.

livedarklions

Hey, you "we're stuck with a word's original meaning " guys, "peloton" means "ball".

indyfabz

While I always assumed price point meant approximate price, I absolutely hate colorway.

livedarklions

Agreed, I've always heard "price point" used when comparing more than one product in approximately the same price range, like two cars at the same price point. Roughly equal price in a market with wildly varying prices in that example.

Colorway is just pretentious. Apparently, it's a borrowed word from the fashion industry, where it's used to differentiate the same pattern in different color schemes. I think we should return it.

fredlord

Leg shaving begun with women about 100 years ago.

indyfabz

And I am thunkful for that.

fishboat

Price point is a marketing term. It refers to a product designed to address a specific level of product offering. An example of levels would be a set of tires sold on the basis of "good", "better", "best" or cars Corolla, Camry, or Avalon. The Toyota Camry and Honda Accord address market demand at the same price point.

Another in the vein of cycling word usage that totally blows.."kit". Makes me want to barf (retch, gag, heave, hurl, chunder, spew, toss one's cookies, or do the technicolor yawn)

livedarklions

I don't agree with you on kit, That's a perfectly understandable word that covers all cycling gear and equipment that is on the bike other than the bike itself, so it covers clothing, accessories, tools, bottles, etc. That's a lot of work accomplished for a three letter word, and I don't see any reason that the only practical alternative, which is "gear", would be preferable, especially as that may get confused with "gears".

"Price point" is exactly as you describe it, you explained it better than I did. There's a lot of synonyms, like "market segment", "class", etc. It definitely conveys more than the word "price" by itself. It's a perfectly good phrase that is actually useful. It's a way of comparing like products in a segmented market.
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fishboat

Gear is a MUCH better word. Kit is a bit too cute for my taste. Gosh.. I'm so "continental" as I frequently use the word, kit. "Kit" usage came from the EU(UK)..and should have stayed there.

Gear and gears is only confused by those where English is not their first language. A non-(native) English speaker often uses "equipments" where "equipment" is the correct choice. Non-native English speakers being confused by English is normal (as are those speaking many foreign, to them, languages)

livedarklions

So if your objection is that it's "too cute" and apparently, too British, we are really differing on esthetic grounds and there really is no point in arguing taste. I don't see the stretch from "tool kit" (a very familiar phrase to Americans) to "cycling kit" as anything significant, and I also don't think one has to be a non-native speaker to mishear "gears" for "gear" in conversation.

You want to get me started on an unnecessary, pretentious borrow-word, mention "bidon".

Darth Lefty 

Thread is borked

Road Fan

"Equipment" v. "equipments" may come from vehicle engineering. As one a dem, we might say "the vehicle is equipped with several (guess what?) equipments," then we would go on at length to mansplain them. At the same time it isn't grammatically wrong to say "the driver is provided with useful equipment of several types," for example (with or without mansplaining).

BTW just to be fair, female engineers also mansplain, when necessary.