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I’m still flabbergasted by what we learned about the behavior of dogs in the kingdom of qwaa. I guess you really do learn something new everyday.
This might explain why one of my dogs went nuts chasing this bee or wasp when she was just a wee pup. The funny thing is, she finally got it in her mouth and chewed it up. But it must have stung her as it was being crushed or chased because she had some sort of allergic reaction. Her head swelled up grotesquely. She looked like a freaky jack o’ lantern, it was so bad.
Thankfully, she was okay again by the time we got to the vet’s office.
She’s gotta have some qwaa dog in her pedigree.
This might explain why one of my dogs went nuts chasing this bee or wasp when she was just a wee pup. The funny thing is, she finally got it in her mouth and chewed it up. But it must have stung her as it was being crushed or chased because she had some sort of allergic reaction. Her head swelled up grotesquely. She looked like a freaky jack o’ lantern, it was so bad.
Thankfully, she was okay again by the time we got to the vet’s office.
She’s gotta have some qwaa dog in her pedigree.
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Dog are more likely to turn aggressive towards anything that don't look or smell familiar to them. Dogs recognize by smell, form, and movement.
Smell is a huge deal to dogs. Keep smells as little as possible. Avoid fabric softener, perfume, cologne, strong smelling soap / shampoo. Shower after every workout or any activity that makes you sweat. Avoid eating red meat / exotic foods before a ride. Keep your BMI under 23.
You'll find dogs are less likely to chase women due to less body odor and less meat on diet. Someone on a bike is less likely to be seen as prey by dog. More often than not, if chased, they see you as a threat
Appearance will also matter. In this aspect, simply try to blend in. If all the cyclists in your area are riding on cruiser bikes and not wearing helmets you'll greatly improve your chance of avoiding catching dog's attention if you also ride on cruise bikes and not wear helmet.. I'm only saying it as an example, not to discourage anyone from wearing a helmet. I wear helmet in all my outdoor rides too even in short 5 minute rides.
Finally, movement. Avoid any rough, sudden movements. Make smooth delivery of power on the pedal. Avoid abrupt pedaling, avoid aggressive motions on the bike. Avoid unusual postures. Riding like a clown will absolutely get a dog's attention from miles away.
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Smell is a huge deal to dogs. Keep smells as little as possible. Avoid fabric softener, perfume, cologne, strong smelling soap / shampoo. Shower after every workout or any activity that makes you sweat. Avoid eating red meat / exotic foods before a ride. Keep your BMI under 23.
You'll find dogs are less likely to chase women due to less body odor and less meat on diet. Someone on a bike is less likely to be seen as prey by dog. More often than not, if chased, they see you as a threat
Appearance will also matter. In this aspect, simply try to blend in. If all the cyclists in your area are riding on cruiser bikes and not wearing helmets you'll greatly improve your chance of avoiding catching dog's attention if you also ride on cruise bikes and not wear helmet.. I'm only saying it as an example, not to discourage anyone from wearing a helmet. I wear helmet in all my outdoor rides too even in short 5 minute rides.
Finally, movement. Avoid any rough, sudden movements. Make smooth delivery of power on the pedal. Avoid abrupt pedaling, avoid aggressive motions on the bike. Avoid unusual postures. Riding like a clown will absolutely get a dog's attention from miles away.
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Similar to dogs chasing cars.
Stuff happens.
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Has anyone used a cattle prod for dog defense? More awkward to carry although some are only 33" long. Maybe just a pedestrian and equestrian aid.
https://www.amazon.com/cattle-prod-l...prod+livestock
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when I lived an Arkansas, dogs were a fact of cycling life. Some mutts would ambush, some would sit hundreds of yards up the road, waiting for you. From that distance, they weren’t smelling my beer breath or critiquing my souplesse, they were just waiting for dinner. In situations like those, I found that the best policy was to speed up, aim right for them and yell like a madman - that usually startled them enough for me to get some distance before they got up to speed.
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The pepper spray (definitely not bear spray) will repel the dog and wear off quickly. The second part is important for two reasons. First, I don't think very many people actually want to cause permanent injury to any animal. Secondly, by the time the police arrive, the incident is over and there is clearly no harm done. No need to go to court and justify your actions. If you hit it with a baton or a chain and take out an eye, you could be sued.
Also, I'm not sure bear spray is legal to carry everywhere. The strength of regular pepper spray is regulated and the brand we carry (Saber Red) is legal to carry and much smaller too.
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Elevated aggression towards humans is one of the signs of an abused dog.
https://iron-set.com/us/are-abused-dogs-aggressive/
https://iron-set.com/us/are-abused-dogs-aggressive/
So is fear and cowering. Maybe actually read the whole linked source. Tell me where that source suggests they charge people who smell like their abuser.
You're posting a bunch of crap you can't support.
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The pepper spray (definitely not bear spray) will repel the dog and wear off quickly. The second part is important for two reasons. First, I don't think very many people actually want to cause permanent injury to any animal. Secondly, by the time the police arrive, the incident is over and there is clearly no harm done. No need to go to court and justify your actions. If you hit it with a baton or a chain and take out an eye, you could be sued.
Also, I'm not sure bear spray is legal to carry everywhere. The strength of regular pepper spray is regulated and the brand we carry (Saber Red) is legal to carry and much smaller too.
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I am not superstitious, but...I was riding through the center of our little town on a real small old street with cars parked down one side. Almost no traffic on this street, old houses and a couple of churches. I was about 10 foot from a parked car, and a black flash flew right straight at my back tire. It was a dog, about 30 pounds, fortunately for me on legs that were about 3 inches long. It's fat little belly was dragging the street so I did dodge and out run this one. I heard his owner yelling at him as I rode on. Funny how when you think of something on this forum, it happens. Pretty nice first ride of the year.
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I would have stopped. It defuses the dog's chase instinct. And they can't run in front of my wheel, causing a crash.
Most every dog nip I've seen has been from dogs catching up to the rider from behind and biting the moving leg or foot.
Nothing works for every dog. These all work some of the time, but have no effect on different dogs: Yelling. Blasting an emergency whistle. Squirting water. Veering toward the dog, screaming. Stopping. Taking off sunglasses and staring down the dog! Pepper spray -- but that has to be easily accessible.
I would have stopped. It defuses the dog's chase instinct. And they can't run in front of my wheel, causing a crash.
Most every dog nip I've seen has been from dogs catching up to the rider from behind and biting the moving leg or foot.
Nothing works for every dog. These all work some of the time, but have no effect on different dogs: Yelling. Blasting an emergency whistle. Squirting water. Veering toward the dog, screaming. Stopping. Taking off sunglasses and staring down the dog! Pepper spray -- but that has to be easily accessible.
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back on topic:
I would have stopped. It defuses the dog's chase instinct. And they can't run in front of my wheel, causing a crash.
Most every dog nip I've seen has been from dogs catching up to the rider from behind and biting the moving leg or foot.
Nothing works for every dog. These all work some of the time, but have no effect on different dogs: Yelling. Blasting an emergency whistle. Squirting water. Veering toward the dog, screaming. Stopping. Taking off sunglasses and staring down the dog! Pepper spray -- but that has to be easily accessible.
I would have stopped. It defuses the dog's chase instinct. And they can't run in front of my wheel, causing a crash.
Most every dog nip I've seen has been from dogs catching up to the rider from behind and biting the moving leg or foot.
Nothing works for every dog. These all work some of the time, but have no effect on different dogs: Yelling. Blasting an emergency whistle. Squirting water. Veering toward the dog, screaming. Stopping. Taking off sunglasses and staring down the dog! Pepper spray -- but that has to be easily accessible.
This dog wasn't chasing, it was ambushing. Watching the video, it's a matter of a second or two between when it becomes obvious the dog is unleashed and charging and when the pass actually occurs. Hindsight is 20/20, but every close call I've ever had with a dog has come out of seemingly nowhere leaving me little or no time to consider my reaction, let alone pull off a safe sudden stop while screaming, squirting, whatever. Honestly, if you did manage to slam on the brakes and put your feet on the ground, no way to tell if it would have turned out any better.
Last time I got chased, btw, it was by a Rottweiler who came at me from behind after I passed the hedges that were concealing him. I actually heard him before I saw him and he was basically just about a foot behind my leg. I did not want to stop and just kept pedaling as fast as I could. This turned out to be a very fortunate choice as when I turned back to take a second look, I realized he was a very old dog with arthritis. He tried to keep up with me for about a block, but I was about a half block ahead of him when he gave up. Literally, his only chance of catching me would have been if I had stopped or slowed. His strategy, assuming he had one, was to lie in wait behind the hedge and try to make contact immediately. Old or not, you really don't want to mess with the jaws of a Rottweiler.
Long story short--these things are extremely situational and Fido isn't always advertising his presence or intentions. I don't think we're necessarily disagreeing here, maybe it makes sense to have a default reaction, but be prepared to improvise when that strategy is obviously inappropriate.
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got my pants back, replaced the zipper, that the dog ruined
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