So much resistance to change
01-11-23, 07:09 PM
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Dont get me wrong, in that everything has to be the latest. Actually I think the bikes produced around 1990 with down tube shifters. and click shifting were probably the zenith of bikes. They so mechanically perfect with almost no cables flapping in the wind. That is until something really fantastic that changes everything comes along.
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01-11-23, 07:11 PM
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Furthermore, nothing was questioned. smd just flat out said Kontact's analysis isnt true….
Its was funny to read that because smd has no idea where Kontact even lives…
I now find it funny that I had to explain what seems like a very easily discernable difference between smd's ignorant claim…
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tiff shifting on your bike
If you're experiencing stiff shifting on your bike, there are a few things that could be causing the problem.
1. Check to make sure that your derailleur hanger is aligned properly. If it's even slightly out of alignment, it can cause shifting problems.
2. Possibility is that your chain is too tight. When the chain is too tight, it puts extra tension on the derailleurs and can cause them to work less efficiently.
3. There's something wrong with the shift forks inside the transmission. The forks can get bent or damaged, making shifting gears difficult.
4. If you're having trouble shifting gears, you should be to check for any obvious problems like a loose shift knob or worn-out bushings/bearings.
5. Check your chain regularly. A loose or damaged chain can cause your gears to slip or change unexpectedly.
Finally, make sure that your shifter cables are in good condition and properly adjusted.
If they're frayed or stretched, they'll need to be replaced. If you've checked all these things and your shifter still feels stiff, then it's probably time to replace it.
1. Check to make sure that your derailleur hanger is aligned properly. If it's even slightly out of alignment, it can cause shifting problems.
2. Possibility is that your chain is too tight. When the chain is too tight, it puts extra tension on the derailleurs and can cause them to work less efficiently.
3. There's something wrong with the shift forks inside the transmission. The forks can get bent or damaged, making shifting gears difficult.
4. If you're having trouble shifting gears, you should be to check for any obvious problems like a loose shift knob or worn-out bushings/bearings.
5. Check your chain regularly. A loose or damaged chain can cause your gears to slip or change unexpectedly.
Finally, make sure that your shifter cables are in good condition and properly adjusted.
If they're frayed or stretched, they'll need to be replaced. If you've checked all these things and your shifter still feels stiff, then it's probably time to replace it.
01-11-23, 07:40 PM
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What is it about the cycling community that is so resistance to change, and have such narrow minded attitudes. You can go back to 1934 when bents were banned from racing, because just one guy was winning all the races and time trials. Or maybe further back to about 1890 when the "safety bike" superseded the penny-farthling. Then come forward to the middle 80s when click shifting came out, most roadies claimed they would never use it. Also in that time frame mountain bikes were scoffed at in the beginning. Closer to this time frame, disc brakes were roundly put down, and some made it sound like in a crash, riders would be slashed so bad they would never ride again!!!! And lastly the huge out cry against bikes and trikes with electric motors. IMO almost all these things I have mentioned are huge advances, because it makes bikes better, easer to use for more people, safer, and increases the number of people that cycle.
Then we have the question of just who is a cyclist. The really hard core claim that unless you ride a $5000 bike, and have $500 kit you really are not a cyclist. IMO ANYONE that pedals a 1, 2, 3, or a 4 wheel machine is a cyclist. That includes little Susie and her sidewalk bike with training wheels.
So what are the thots of others on the forum???
Then we have the question of just who is a cyclist. The really hard core claim that unless you ride a $5000 bike, and have $500 kit you really are not a cyclist. IMO ANYONE that pedals a 1, 2, 3, or a 4 wheel machine is a cyclist. That includes little Susie and her sidewalk bike with training wheels.
So what are the thots of others on the forum???
I'll ride what works for me. Mountain bike with slicks? Recumbent? Steel? Stand up Bike? Fat bike?
And feel free to do so in jeans, flip flops, grass skirt, or nothing at all.
Someone on a $5000 bike with full kit and their butt in the air doesn't like your style?
Who cares?
Just look at them... they look ridiculous!
Almost as silly as those people stuck in cars!
01-11-23, 09:47 PM
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If you're experiencing stiff shifting on your bike, there are a few things that could be causing the problem.
1. Check to make sure that your derailleur hanger is aligned properly. If it's even slightly out of alignment, it can cause shifting problems.
2. Possibility is that your chain is too tight. When the chain is too tight, it puts extra tension on the derailleurs and can cause them to work less efficiently.
3. There's something wrong with the shift forks inside the transmission. The forks can get bent or damaged, making shifting gears difficult.
4. If you're having trouble shifting gears, you should be to check for any obvious problems like a loose shift knob or worn-out bushings/bearings.
5. Check your chain regularly. A loose or damaged chain can cause your gears to slip or change unexpectedly.
Finally, make sure that your shifter cables are in good condition and properly adjusted.
If they're frayed or stretched, they'll need to be replaced. If you've checked all these things and your shifter still feels stiff, then it's probably time to replace it.
1. Check to make sure that your derailleur hanger is aligned properly. If it's even slightly out of alignment, it can cause shifting problems.
2. Possibility is that your chain is too tight. When the chain is too tight, it puts extra tension on the derailleurs and can cause them to work less efficiently.
3. There's something wrong with the shift forks inside the transmission. The forks can get bent or damaged, making shifting gears difficult.
4. If you're having trouble shifting gears, you should be to check for any obvious problems like a loose shift knob or worn-out bushings/bearings.
5. Check your chain regularly. A loose or damaged chain can cause your gears to slip or change unexpectedly.
Finally, make sure that your shifter cables are in good condition and properly adjusted.
If they're frayed or stretched, they'll need to be replaced. If you've checked all these things and your shifter still feels stiff, then it's probably time to replace it.
Maybe try sorting out what kind of vehicle you want to talk about, and stick to just that vehicle, when you offer up unsolicited and really mediocre advice.
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01-11-23, 10:53 PM
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My friend in Tucson rides a recumbent. He's a serious cyclist.
01-11-23, 11:07 PM
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Was there something about stiff shifting in the thread? Shift forks are inside a car transmission. Motorcycles, too, in some cases. Shift knob? Sounds like a car.
01-11-23, 11:08 PM
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01-11-23, 11:30 PM
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As a consumer I can't say I've noticed this at all over the last 40+ years of cycling. From a design point of view bikes are certainly more complex and sophisticated, but still relatively simple machines compared to say cars or motorbikes. I'll have to take your word on warranty failures. I haven't personally had to make any claims, but then I've only bought a handful of new bikes in the last decade.
I find modern road bikes are virtually maintenance-free apart from the usual drivetrain cleaning/lube.
I find modern road bikes are virtually maintenance-free apart from the usual drivetrain cleaning/lube.
01-11-23, 11:32 PM
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Maybe it's some sort of algorithm and it's responding to the thread title and it interpreted "resistance to change" as hard to change gears?
01-11-23, 11:40 PM
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Do you mean Zenith like the old TVs? My Grandmother had one. Not what I would want these days. Downtube shifting was great back when it was popular because they hadn't figured out integrated brakes and shifters in a meaningful way till the late 80s.
Flapping cables sounds like a set up issue, both of the bikes I owned with downtube shifting never had flapping cables!
Flapping cables sounds like a set up issue, both of the bikes I owned with downtube shifting never had flapping cables!
"Zenith" means pinnacle or high point.
"Flapping in the wind" means that the cables were exposed and added to aerodynamic drag. It's an allusion, not literal.
A lot of this thread is like people arguing about what "is" is.
01-12-23, 12:05 AM
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I am a music teachers and am always amused at how much criticism new forms of music meet, so I don't think resistance to change is unique to cycling.
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01-12-23, 12:14 AM
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Yes I was joking! Well I mean my Grandmother did have a Zenith T.V. and integrated shifting is nice but aside from that yes was having a laugh.
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I got a full season out of Shimano road pads on rolling terrain with a few short, steep descents. I did wear out a set of SRAM pads on a trip to the French Alps. Pad change was very easy without needing to re-bleed. Literally a 10 min job requiring minimal skill.
01-12-23, 07:19 AM
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The troll has achieved six pages and counting.
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Everything seems to work well if you don't use it all that much.
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And, ironically, Saturday Night Live was much better back in the olden days.
01-12-23, 08:27 AM
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01-12-23, 08:55 AM
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Old people don't always think that past technology was better. I'll be 70 this year. I bought into indexed brake/shift levers when they first came out as 8 speed and bought new stuff every time more speeds were added. I used Campy, so I nearly always had more speeds 1to 4 years ahead of Shimano users. It took Shimano forever to get their 12 speed groups out. I got Campy Chorus 12 as soon as it was available, but only kept it for a year before switching to SRAM Force AXS wireless in mid 2020, when some lower priced partial groups came out. I've got three bikes with Force AXS and hydraulic disc brakes now. Two of my bikes have integrated bar/stem and fully internal brake hose routing. I have zipp 303s wheels with 23mm IW hookless rims and BTLOS 25mm IW hookless rims. I use the zipp tire pressure calculator and only use 52/55 psi with 28mm tubeless tires. SMP Stratos saddles for me.