Tubeless Lessons Learned
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OP may be the target market for those air-less tires that were discussed in another recent thread.
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Yeah you guys are right about trying the plugs first, but had read that on sidewalls they weren’t that effective. But on the interface they may have worked. OK I’m an idiot.
Nother question. It appears that seating new, or repaired, tubeless is a PITA, even with a good floor pump unless you get the special ones whic pressurize to X bar. I have a compressor which I want to use rather than forking out more moola.
Is there a decent shrader to presta converter I can use with the shrader connection on my compressor? (I have looked at 6 threads on presta/shrader, but none have addressed this issue, unless you can point me to a specific one). TIA
Nother question. It appears that seating new, or repaired, tubeless is a PITA, even with a good floor pump unless you get the special ones whic pressurize to X bar. I have a compressor which I want to use rather than forking out more moola.
Is there a decent shrader to presta converter I can use with the shrader connection on my compressor? (I have looked at 6 threads on presta/shrader, but none have addressed this issue, unless you can point me to a specific one). TIA
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Yeah you guys are right about trying the plugs first, but had read that on sidewalls they weren’t that effective. But on the interface they may have worked. OK I’m an idiot.
Nother question. It appears that seating new, or repaired, tubeless is a PITA, even with a good floor pump unless you get the special ones whic pressurize to X bar. I have a compressor which I want to use rather than forking out more moola.
Is there a decent shrader to presta converter I can use with the shrader connection on my compressor? (I have looked at 6 threads on presta/shrader, but none have addressed this issue, unless you can point me to a specific one). TIA
Nother question. It appears that seating new, or repaired, tubeless is a PITA, even with a good floor pump unless you get the special ones whic pressurize to X bar. I have a compressor which I want to use rather than forking out more moola.
Is there a decent shrader to presta converter I can use with the shrader connection on my compressor? (I have looked at 6 threads on presta/shrader, but none have addressed this issue, unless you can point me to a specific one). TIA
Yep, fitting and removing a tubeless tire a few times can stretch the bead. Not always a problem, but it can be. That's another good reason to maintain good sealant and carry plugs.
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Nother question. It appears that seating new, or repaired, tubeless is a PITA, even with a good floor pump unless you get the special ones whic pressurize to X bar. I have a compressor which I want to use rather than forking out more moola.
Is there a decent shrader to presta converter I can use with the shrader connection on my compressor? (I have looked at 6 threads on presta/shrader, but none have addressed this issue, unless you can point me to a specific one). TIA
Is there a decent shrader to presta converter I can use with the shrader connection on my compressor? (I have looked at 6 threads on presta/shrader, but none have addressed this issue, unless you can point me to a specific one). TIA
All that said, nothing wrong with using a compressor, and the adapters sitting in the cup next to the cash register at the LBS have always worked for me.
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….and if you feel up to it, do a double wrap on the rim tape with the appropriate width tape. It makes seating those problem tires easier.
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You can get a presta to Schrader adapter at any bike shop, cheap. However, you might want to give it a try with your regular floor pump. I'm able to seat 42mm tires with a regular pump, just remove the valve core to increase the volume and pump fast.
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I recently took a dive into modern biking, building up a new Cinelli superstar disc with fulcrum racing 3 wheels that require no rim tape. I put the new michelin power road tubeless tires on those wheels. In the unlikely event of a puncture that won't seal, I carry a tube and two co2 cartridges. With a tube installed, a big blast of air to seat the bead shouldn't be required. I carry nitrile gloves too. I may have to practice such an event, but I've never had a cut tire in 35 years, so it's unlikely. Riding mountain descents, pinch flats from rocks are common. Tubeless should stop that.
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I recently took a dive into modern biking, building up a new Cinelli superstar disc with fulcrum racing 3 wheels that require no rim tape. I put the new michelin power road tubeless tires on those wheels. In the unlikely event of a puncture that won't seal, I carry a tube and two co2 cartridges. With a tube installed, a big blast of air to seat the bead shouldn't be required. I carry nitrile gloves too. I may have to practice such an event, but I've never had a cut tire in 35 years, so it's unlikely. Riding mountain descents, pinch flats from rocks are common. Tubeless should stop that.
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Rationale: when your tube-ass wears and stretches-- your CO2 roadside will almost always pop your bead back.. if your loose it. Rim to tire interference is critical... given both components vary so much in measurement/fits. I have even run 3 wraps of tape w some rubber for this fit.. see tire jack.
One dude pointed it right on cuts.. not always will your seal-not get it done. Suggest: dump a decent dose of DRY glitter in BEFORE you ad seal-not. Spin and distribute.. then the seal-not addition.
JOB ONE---- if your can't re-inflate your flat tube-ass roadside minus bead.. your dipped.
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Woof. This is surely the first time that I've used the Ignore function simply because it was taking too much time trying to make heads or tails of a user's (intentionally?) incoherent posts.
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LOL.. an intelligent reader can get it. Keyboard queen types.. aka the senior element w bibs.. not so much. Go to wallyworld and buy a life.
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Some people seem to write more for self-amusement than for conveying information to others. A personal journal might be a better place for that type of post.
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Exactly, if I still need to carry a tube and a pump then I'm not seeing the advantage over tubes with tire liners and higher end gravel tires.
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This thought pops up from tubeless naysayers with surprising frequency. I find it odd that y'all seem to think that carrying a tube and pump is the problem that needs to be solved, as opposed to, oh, flats. Tubeless has eliminated something like 95% of my flats over the last four or five years - I'd say that's a pretty solid advantage.
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I remain unconvinced.
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I have purchased "tubeless ready" gravel tires, but I still feel like we are in the Windows 97 era of tubeless technology.
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I have, and tubeless tires don't handle the kind of pressures that I run, very well at all. And the attitude alone of people who are die-hard tubeless advocates is enough to turn anyone off. When they have to result to insults, the logical inference is that this is due to defensiveness. But defensiveness about what? The fact that tubeless can't handle high pressures well?
I remain unconvinced.
I remain unconvinced.
The "attitude" that you mentioned is hard to suppress, when so many posters deride something that they clearly don't understand. To wit: if you think the only advantage of tubeless tires is that they may allow you to ride without a spare tube, then you really don't understand tubeless.
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I've run tubeless on 25mm tires at 105psi (I was heavier at the time) and never had a puncture fail to seal on those tires, even a double puncture from a large construction staple that I had to pry out with pocket knife. Much of the "tubeless doesn't work at road pressure" stems from early road adopters thinking that Stan's, which works great at MTB pressures, should also work at road pressure... but it just doesn't.
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Yes, that's true. It seems, however, that proponents gloss over the disadvantages while detractors gloss over the advantages. So, detractors could just as easily claim "if you don't know the disadvantages, it's kind of hard to weigh them."
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On bf, when people express dislike for tubeless tires and Di2, they usually simultaneously demonstrate that they don't even understand the technologies.
There's no law against ignorance. But it shouldn't be spread around so casually.