Black Bullmoose Bars & a Suntour 3 Pulley RD
12-30-22, 09:54 AM
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Black Bullmoose Bars & a Suntour 3 Pulley RD
Snagged this 86 Nishki Cascade in order to harvest the bullmoose bars, XC thumbies, & the XC 3 pulley RD, etc. The parts should help me complete an 85 Rockhopper I'm building up.
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12-30-22, 11:32 AM
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It's kind of sad, but nicer vintage MTB parts tend to exceed the value of the complete bike. It's not close. I have my eye on two for sale in my area right now. It's not unusual for me to see a complete vintage MTB selling for what the thumb shifters alone are worth. Add vintage MTB pedals, nicer triple crankset, some stems, wheels, derailleurs, the list goes on and on. In my market, a $100 bike might yield $650 in parts. Or I can spend $75 in consumables, 4 to 6 hours in time, and lose $50 out of pocket. I may have been born at night, but I wasn't born last night......
If those are Suntour XC-II pedals (and it looks like it), those pedals alone can bring $200 or more.
If those are Suntour XC-II pedals (and it looks like it), those pedals alone can bring $200 or more.
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I was gonna say something about how you should keep that Cascade intact, but then that Rockhopper was mentioned. 😲
We'll definitely need pics, when that's done. ✌️
We'll definitely need pics, when that's done. ✌️
12-31-22, 09:27 AM
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It's kind of sad, but nicer vintage MTB parts tend to exceed the value of the complete bike. It's not close. I have my eye on two for sale in my area right now. It's not unusual for me to see a complete vintage MTB selling for what the thumb shifters alone are worth. Add vintage MTB pedals, nicer triple crankset, some stems, wheels, derailleurs, the list goes on and on. In my market, a $100 bike might yield $650 in parts. Or I can spend $75 in consumables, 4 to 6 hours in time, and lose $50 out of pocket. I may have been born at night, but I wasn't born last night......
If those are Suntour XC-II pedals (and it looks like it), those pedals alone can bring $200 or more.
If those are Suntour XC-II pedals (and it looks like it), those pedals alone can bring $200 or more.
Unfortunately, I live within spitting distance of NYC, so pretty much everyone thinks they have a goldmine. I did get a sweet Rollfast headbadge for $25, though. Shame it came on the bike
12-31-22, 07:51 PM
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I keep one eye open for those!
Often it's Ebay BMX'ers who pay premium prices for certain "MTB" pedals and even 10s Dura-Ace cranksets (the longer the better).
I think it's just a matter of time before the glut of early-eighties MTB's dries up, they are by now less common to find.
As riders they don't climb well if the chainstays are too long, a 1989 model performs 100 times better imo.
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I believe that the valuable pedals would be minus the (visible on these) cast-in reinforcement bridge along each cage plate.
I keep one eye open for those!
Often it's Ebay BMX'ers who pay premium prices for certain "MTB" pedals and even 10s Dura-Ace cranksets (the longer the better).
I think it's just a matter of time before the glut of early-eighties MTB's dries up, they are by now less common to find.
As riders they don't climb well if the chainstays are too long, a 1989 model performs 100 times better imo.
I keep one eye open for those!
Often it's Ebay BMX'ers who pay premium prices for certain "MTB" pedals and even 10s Dura-Ace cranksets (the longer the better).
I think it's just a matter of time before the glut of early-eighties MTB's dries up, they are by now less common to find.
As riders they don't climb well if the chainstays are too long, a 1989 model performs 100 times better imo.
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To each his own, obviously, and parts bikes are certainly the way to go when doing a build, but if it was me I'd be thinking I was robbing Peter to pay Paul here. Don't get me wrong: Rockhoppers are great. I have one and I love it. But are we getting a bit carried away with the Rockhopper mystique? I've worked on a lot--a lot--of bikes from that era, and there are plenty of bikes from any number of brands that are just as nice as anything Specialized was putting out, this Nishiki included. Scott, Giant, Univega, Trek, Jamis, Peugeot, Mongoose, GT--you name the brand, they had something just as good as a Rockhopper. Maybe it's a good thing--the Rockhopper craze is sucking up all the oxygen and maybe keeping super-cool bikes like this more accessible. Is the Rockhopper simultaneously overrated and underrated?
All that hand-wringing aside, it looks like you got some super-cool parts for your build (is that a Cascade with the roller cam rear brake?), good luck, and be sure to post pics when you're done!
All that hand-wringing aside, it looks like you got some super-cool parts for your build (is that a Cascade with the roller cam rear brake?), good luck, and be sure to post pics when you're done!
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I believe that the valuable pedals would be minus the (visible on these) cast-in reinforcement bridge along each cage plate.
I keep one eye open for those!
Often it's Ebay BMX'ers who pay premium prices for certain "MTB" pedals and even 10s Dura-Ace cranksets (the longer the better).
I think it's just a matter of time before the glut of early-eighties MTB's dries up, they are by now less common to find.
As riders they don't climb well if the chainstays are too long, a 1989 model performs 100 times better imo.
I keep one eye open for those!
Often it's Ebay BMX'ers who pay premium prices for certain "MTB" pedals and even 10s Dura-Ace cranksets (the longer the better).
I think it's just a matter of time before the glut of early-eighties MTB's dries up, they are by now less common to find.
As riders they don't climb well if the chainstays are too long, a 1989 model performs 100 times better imo.
Yes, I have been selling MTB pedals and cranksets to the BMX crowd. Prices for a crank with one ring can be DOUBLE what the same crank with two rings. Depends on the model. But the first gen DA, 600 arabesque and some Sugino cranks are popular. Just sold a Sugino Mighty.
