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Old 01-27-13, 04:08 PM
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Too cool grandpa!
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Originally Posted by gsteinb
my kid posted this on my FB with the caption 'suck it Lance.'
pottymouth.
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Great. My teammate is a sociopath.
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@shovel, who's this teammate you are talking about?

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Originally Posted by gsteinb
my kid posted this on my FB with the caption 'suck it Lance.'

haha, full of win
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It's not Lance.
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Old 01-27-13, 06:22 PM
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are you now on Brauer?
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Old 01-27-13, 06:34 PM
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Correct.
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that's a bit of a hike to do the team training rides.
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Old 01-27-13, 06:42 PM
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Team training rides start 3/3 in Bethel.
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i feel so sorry for you shov gsteinb is a grumpy grandpa, but if all goes well he'll be my roommate Get that bed ready for me!
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Is it common for people in cat 5 to not understand how to take a pull/rotate through in a crit? Should I just expect people to never want to see the wind, ever? Frustrating out there today...

Like, I understand if you don't want to take a long pull, but 1-3 good kicks of the pedals to get in front of they guy that just rolled off before pulling off yourself, is that too much to ask?
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who pulls in a race
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Old 01-27-13, 07:22 PM
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^ yes it's common not to understand.

Also it's not necessary to pull though, ever, in any category.
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gsteinb, is that the Travertine parson's table from C&B? If so, how's it holding up?

edit: like the caption.
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Old 01-27-13, 07:40 PM
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I, err, have no idea what that means.
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Originally Posted by Jandro
Is it common for people in cat 5 to not understand how to take a pull/rotate through in a crit? Should I just expect people to never want to see the wind, ever? Frustrating out there today...

Like, I understand if you don't want to take a long pull, but 1-3 good kicks of the pedals to get in front of they guy that just rolled off before pulling off yourself, is that too much to ask?
To be constructive, if you are feeling good you should do things that work in your favor tactically speaking. Pulling everyone along for no reason benefits everyone except you. If you're pulling into a tailwind or a crosswind now you have a reason to pull - you can wear out the others because they may not be able to get shelter from the wind. Think about how your work affects the others.

Instead of pulling you can try attacking. Sit near the back (I know, boring as heck), wait until you can't stand it because it's so slow, then wait another 30 seconds as you mosey up the side of the field (middle is better but side works too). When you're about 3 rows from the front then make sure you're clear to move and launch a big attack. Once you get up to speed hold it for a bit, 20-30 seconds, then ease back into a sustainable but painful effort.

Look back to see what happened. If you attracted a few companions then gently ask them to work. If the field is on your wheel then ease, take a sip from your bottle, and realize that your attack wasn't decisive at all. Rethink your options.

Etc etc etc.
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Old 01-27-13, 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by carpediemracing
To be constructive, if you are feeling good you should do things that work in your favor tactically speaking. Pulling everyone along for no reason benefits everyone except you. If you're pulling into a tailwind or a crosswind now you have a reason to pull - you can wear out the others because they may not be able to get shelter from the wind. Think about how your work affects the others.

Instead of pulling you can try attacking. Sit near the back (I know, boring as heck), wait until you can't stand it because it's so slow, then wait another 30 seconds as you mosey up the side of the field (middle is better but side works too). When you're about 3 rows from the front then make sure you're clear to move and launch a big attack. Once you get up to speed hold it for a bit, 20-30 seconds, then ease back into a sustainable but painful effort.

Look back to see what happened. If you attracted a few companions then gently ask them to work. If the field is on your wheel then ease, take a sip from your bottle, and realize that your attack wasn't decisive at all. Rethink your options.

Etc etc etc.
Gracias mucho.

More background:
A friend and I were working together (he is much stronger than I am) at the beginning, really pushing the pace in the first 4 laps. We put a ~50m gap on the field (not much) and I was starting to pop so I told my buddy I had one good pull left, dug in for 30 seconds, pulled off and watched him slingshot and ride away. I let the pack catch back up and recovered for a lap or two.

Another friend of mine went off the front to try and bridge. I worked my way up and tried to get the group to give chase but after 3 big pulls, some frantic elbow waving and with no one wanting to help/put in effort, I got frustrated and sorta just turned off the gas until the last 3/4 of a lap. Moved up and got a clean line for the sprint. I got 5th in the bunch sprint but we never did reel in the first break (friend that tried to bridge got a flat and by the time he had changed it, he was out). Like I said, he is much strong than I am and basically time trialed the last 6 laps, finishing about 15 seconds before the rest of the bunch.

The 5s are weird. Or normal and I'm just not used to it, yet.
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Old 01-27-13, 08:29 PM
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Chasing down your friend isn't very friendly.
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Old 01-27-13, 08:31 PM
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Why did you want the group to chase your 2 friends ?

Friend #2 will now get pit wheels.
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Old 01-27-13, 09:17 PM
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At least none of the results matter in the Early Birds; part of why they're such a good idea IMO.
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Originally Posted by Jandro

The 5s are Clueless, and so am i.
Corrected.
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Is the color orange called that because it's the color oranges are, or are oranges called that because they are orange? And are Orangatangs called that because they are orange apes, or did they name the color and fruit after the ape?
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Originally Posted by botto
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I was chasing friends because the EB crits are practice crits and the results don't matter. Obviously if it was a real race I would not chase down friends, but these are meant to be races where you try everything. Thanks for your constructive commentary, though.
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Well, that was one long ass race. Now getting on a plane.
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Old 01-28-13, 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Jandro
I was chasing friends because the EB crits are practice crits and the results don't matter. Obviously if it was a real race I would not chase down friends, but these are meant to be races where you try everything. Thanks for your constructive commentary, though.
what's a 'practice' crit? did you pay? Does it count towards an upgrade?
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