Bob Jackson Serial Numbers
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Bob Jackson Serial Numbers
I have a Bob Jackson serial #10812 and would love to find when it was manufactured. The Bob Jackson factory couldn't find any info on it (so I tried that avenue). If you own a Bob Jackson and you know the serial number and verified the date can you post it here. I am assuming the used sequential numbering:
10812 - ?
11042 - 1974 (taken from another post)
The Bob Jackson in Question
10812 - ?
11042 - 1974 (taken from another post)
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judging by the fact of only that chainstay cable-stop brazeon, and are those the long Campy DOs, or Zeus? I'd guess mid-to-late '70s. BTW, the Campy cable guide on the seat-tube is backwards and should clamp on the down-tube.
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yeah, it certainly makes sense that it would be pre-74, but there's something that looks more "crisp" about this frame that strikes me as a later product. But since you say it has WB braze-ons, it might have had a complete re-spray done at the factory which would explain the look of it. Nice BJ, in any case.
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yeah, it certainly makes sense that it would be pre-74, but there's something that looks more "crisp" about this frame that strikes me as a later product. But since you say it has WB braze-ons, it might have had a complete re-spray done at the factory which would explain the look of it. Nice BJ, in any case.
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I just go this e-mail from the Bob Jackson factory:
"Yes sorry about that.It happens that cards get lost or removed and not put back correctly over the years.
From the master sheet I can tell you the frame was built for a Mr.C.Pratt in March of 1975. (33 years old)"
Fun to know.
"Yes sorry about that.It happens that cards get lost or removed and not put back correctly over the years.
From the master sheet I can tell you the frame was built for a Mr.C.Pratt in March of 1975. (33 years old)"
Fun to know.
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Hi y'all. I just actually picked up a Bob Jackson on Saturday. Based on the photos on the Bob Jackson site, I'd say it's a Messina.
Serial #20602.
I love that it's a palindrome.
I don't know the age and when I emailed the company they said they'd need 25 pounds to get the card that would tell me the age and tubeset! I'd guess it's early 1990's based on the component mix. Downtube shifters, Ultegra/600 and Campy (not sure which groupo) mix of parts. Rides fantastic.
Can I post links to flickr here? (sorry I'm a newb.)
Serial #20602.
I love that it's a palindrome.
I don't know the age and when I emailed the company they said they'd need 25 pounds to get the card that would tell me the age and tubeset! I'd guess it's early 1990's based on the component mix. Downtube shifters, Ultegra/600 and Campy (not sure which groupo) mix of parts. Rides fantastic.
Can I post links to flickr here? (sorry I'm a newb.)
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Hi y'all. I just actually picked up a Bob Jackson on Saturday. Based on the photos on the Bob Jackson site, I'd say it's a Messina.
Serial #20602.
I love that it's a palindrome.
I don't know the age and when I emailed the company they said they'd need 25 pounds to get the card that would tell me the age and tubeset! I'd guess it's early 1990's based on the component mix. Downtube shifters, Ultegra/600 and Campy (not sure which groupo) mix of parts. Rides fantastic.
Can I post links to flickr here? (sorry I'm a newb.)
Serial #20602.
I love that it's a palindrome.
I don't know the age and when I emailed the company they said they'd need 25 pounds to get the card that would tell me the age and tubeset! I'd guess it's early 1990's based on the component mix. Downtube shifters, Ultegra/600 and Campy (not sure which groupo) mix of parts. Rides fantastic.
Can I post links to flickr here? (sorry I'm a newb.)
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Bob Jackson Messina Serial # 9359
...better late than never....my BJ Messina was built in early 1973 in Leeds, England with a serial # 9359.
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Mine is serial # 10899, so I'm going to start calling it a '75.
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"Mine is 108X5 from 1975. That is, I bought it in 1975. When it was made is another matter, altogether."
P.S. - Since I made these photos a few days ago, I have posted them every chance I've had. You've given me one more chance:
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Serial No. 10109 ... from around 1974.
All original paint and decals, still in very nice condition.
I believe the Reynolds 531 decals with the gold bands stating: "Reynolds Tube Co, Ltd" were first issued in 1973, but may have appeared only later on many biikes if a manufacturer had ample stockpiles of the earlier versions. These were used until around 1977 when they were changed to include the "TI" logo - to reflect Reynolds' ownership by the parent company, Tube Investments Group.
{Don't worry... since taking this photo, I've changed the seatpost and saddle and pedals to less distractingly modern components.}
If anyone wishes to compare lugwork and construction details with those of their own BJ bikes, I have many more photos of this bike which can be viewed here:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/strongl...7606749255200/
All original paint and decals, still in very nice condition.
I believe the Reynolds 531 decals with the gold bands stating: "Reynolds Tube Co, Ltd" were first issued in 1973, but may have appeared only later on many biikes if a manufacturer had ample stockpiles of the earlier versions. These were used until around 1977 when they were changed to include the "TI" logo - to reflect Reynolds' ownership by the parent company, Tube Investments Group.
{Don't worry... since taking this photo, I've changed the seatpost and saddle and pedals to less distractingly modern components.}
If anyone wishes to compare lugwork and construction details with those of their own BJ bikes, I have many more photos of this bike which can be viewed here:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/strongl...7606749255200/
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I got a Bob Jackson recently, serial #16052. Emailed BJ & they said it was built 82-83 & would supply a laminated job card for 10 pounds.
She's a little beat up but I can't wait to build her up & post pics!
She's a little beat up but I can't wait to build her up & post pics!
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I love your Bob Jacksons!
I almost snagged one on eBay a few weeks ago, but it sold for more than I was willing to pay. It would have made a good companion for my Woodrup
I almost snagged one on eBay a few weeks ago, but it sold for more than I was willing to pay. It would have made a good companion for my Woodrup
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I just ordered a new Bob Jackson touring frame from England a few weeks ago. They are surprisingly inexpensive if you order an "off the peg" (non-custom) frame. Mine cost about $635 including shipping and insurance. They will paint frames just about any color/decal combination that you could imagine at no extra cost. Prices are better right now than they have been in years due to the rising value of the dollar vs. the pound.
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^^^^
This. The main reason I didn't up my bid on the aforementioned frame is becuase by the time I won it, shipped it over here, and put new paint on it, I could just buy a new one.
What rear dropout spacing and colors did you choose? Did you talk to them on the phone at all?
This. The main reason I didn't up my bid on the aforementioned frame is becuase by the time I won it, shipped it over here, and put new paint on it, I could just buy a new one.
What rear dropout spacing and colors did you choose? Did you talk to them on the phone at all?
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^^^^
This. The main reason I didn't up my bid on the aforementioned frame is becuase by the time I won it, shipped it over here, and put new paint on it, I could just buy a new one.
What rear dropout spacing and colors did you choose? Did you talk to them on the phone at all?
This. The main reason I didn't up my bid on the aforementioned frame is becuase by the time I won it, shipped it over here, and put new paint on it, I could just buy a new one.
What rear dropout spacing and colors did you choose? Did you talk to them on the phone at all?
I called them on the phone once to iron out some last-minute details since the emails were so time-consuming.
I was trying to decide between the Audax and World Tour models, since both had mounts for racks and fenders. However, once I finally got all of the geometry specs, the touring frame was a better fit for me. Prices have dropped even further since I ordered in early December due to rising value of the dollar.
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According to the folks at Bob Jackson Cycles my frame 12470 was made in 1977 (stock bike, not special order). One clue to dating seventies English bikes, of course, is the Reynolds decals (assuming the constructor wasn't using old stock up): they were different pre-1975, 1975-1977 (registered mark, but no TI), and 1977-1981 (TI Reynolds), when they changed yet again (C, SP, ST, Professional, etc.). You can look at this BF thread, this ClassicRendezvous page and this Gazelle Pages table for more information about that. Of course, that's no help for anyone whose bike lacks them.
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This is a relatively recent one, from 2003. Bob all set to go to Iowa. Just have to install the white bar tape to match the reflective sidewalls on the Schalbes.:
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here's my addition: it's a BJ of another color, a Merlin from sometime in the '70s (I haven't asked or paid for the info from BJ).
Serial number is 15305 followed by a symbol that looks like a club (or 4-leafed clover) with no stem on the BB (and same number without the symbol on the steerer).
This is all 531, has semi-wrap stays and chrome Prugnat headlugs, chrome Zeus DOs and forkends. Repainted and decalled to match original, but lost some of the chrome on the stays. Came with braze-ons for Centerpull brake at rear, top of BB cable guides but that's all the braze-ons...made for 27" wheels. A very smooth rider!
Oh and BTW...I have additional pics in the photobucket album, and...
it's for sale!
Serial number is 15305 followed by a symbol that looks like a club (or 4-leafed clover) with no stem on the BB (and same number without the symbol on the steerer).
This is all 531, has semi-wrap stays and chrome Prugnat headlugs, chrome Zeus DOs and forkends. Repainted and decalled to match original, but lost some of the chrome on the stays. Came with braze-ons for Centerpull brake at rear, top of BB cable guides but that's all the braze-ons...made for 27" wheels. A very smooth rider!
Oh and BTW...I have additional pics in the photobucket album, and...
it's for sale!