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Old 06-11-22, 07:50 AM
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For an old guy (84) I find there are so many OLD FUDDS in the cycling community, They are kind of like firemen on a diesel engine on a train. Up until about 1970 bikes were old fashion 10 speeds. Then along came click shifting, mountain bikes, frame of many materials, and then disc brakes. The "real cyclist" of the cycling community resisted almost all of them. As I say at my age, I saw all of them come into being. I remember for instance click shifting, the "real cyclist" bad mouthed it and said it was a fad.

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Old 06-11-22, 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by rydabent
For an old guy (84) I find there are so many OLD FUDDS in the cycling community, They are kind of like firemen on a diesel engine on a train. Up until about 1970 bikes were old fashion 10 speeds. The along came click shifting, mountain bikes, frame of many materials, and then disc brakes. The "real cyclist" of the cycling community resisted almost all of them. As I say at my age, I saw all of them come into being. I remember for instance click shifting, the "real cyclist" bad mouthed it and said it was a fad.
We are 50 years removed from the 70’s.

Look at the state of the art bicycle from 1920 and compare it with a bike from the 70’s.

I’d definitely say that bikes have changed a lot less in the last 50 years than the 50 years before that. They got smoother, faster, more precise, and lighter. Most of the parts function the same, just a bit better.

Mtn biking is approximately 35 years old in total. The bikes have changed so much that the sport has been reinvented into several different directions.
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Old 06-11-22, 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by 70sSanO
I don’t think you ever need to fear that you can’t find rim brakes going forward.

Now high end rims for those brakes might be a different issue.

John
If your rim brakes are going forward, it's because you didn't tighten the mounting nuts enough.
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Old 06-11-22, 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by rydabent
On the Crazy guy on a bike forum, there has been many instances of of worn out rims breaking. They ride rain or shine, and sand and water quickly destroy rims.
I grew up and wrenched in California. Guess that’s why we never saw such wear.
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Old 06-11-22, 11:30 AM
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I just replaced the original brake pads on my 1975 Raleigh Super Course this morning before my ride. Good old Weinmann centerpulls. Kool-Stop pads. Definitely smoother braking now.
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Old 06-11-22, 08:44 PM
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The spring of the brake caliper dose not last forever, or am I doing something wrong like not replacing the brake cable/housing frequent enough?
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Old 06-11-22, 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by StargazeCyclist
The spring of the brake caliper dose not last forever, or am I doing something wrong like not replacing the brake cable/housing frequent enough?
Nothing last forever, but the spring of a decent brake caliper will last longer then you and I. Guess you could immerse it in salt water for a shorter life.
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Old 06-11-22, 08:52 PM
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I had to replace my 10 years (?) old caliper because the spring does not bounce back (both the front and the back failed within a few months).
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Old 06-12-22, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by tomato coupe
Disc brakes? Or your non-riding friends and family?
Disk Brakes, but I like the folks too.
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Old 06-13-22, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by thehammerdog
pretty bike clean.
i agree with your statement I was able to buy fancy paul canti's it is a fantastic bike .

at gravel race 2022
What is the front brake? Looks Vbrake-ish rather than canti.
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Old 06-13-22, 01:31 PM
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I love my bike. She has disk brakes. I was riding an old hybrid that belonged to my husband. It didn't fit me at all. I'm taller than he is and the difference is all in my legs. That bike was much too small. I felt foolish going out and buying a really nice bike. I considered myself a beginner rider and didn't think I would really even notice how much better it was riding the lighter bike. I saw no point in spending money for a light bike until I took the weight off the engine first. Now I'm a lean, mean, cycling machine.
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Old 06-13-22, 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by mstateglfr
What is the front brake? Looks Vbrake-ish rather than canti.
Just fancy canti brakes by Paul.

they are very nice... but expensive.
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Old 06-14-22, 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by thehammerdog
Just fancy canti brakes by Paul.

they are very nice... but expensive.
The front looks like a Paul mini-moto, which is a vbrake, which is why I asked. The rear looks like a canti brake.
I will see my way out once again.
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Old 06-15-22, 04:50 AM
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Paul Components my favorite..I send a lot of money to Chico
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Old 06-15-22, 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by rydabent
They are kind of like firemen on a diesel engine on a train.
As a qualified steam locomotive fireman, I may be one of the few here who gets this reference...
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Seeing that quill stems are still around, feel it's unlikely that rim brakes will be disappearing anytime soon!
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Good point, freeranger.
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Originally Posted by freeranger
Seeing that quill stems are still around, feel it's unlikely that rim brakes will be disappearing anytime soon!
I think the concern isnt that rim brakes of any kind will disappear soon, its that rim brakes and connected components which are high quality will disappear soon.

Quality lightweight rim brake rims, quality brake calipers, quality brake levers(STI and dedicated), etc- these leaving the market is what many are concerned about. Posters here are typically enthusiasts and anyone wanting to keep a rim brake bike is almost certainly also someone who does not want generic stamped low end components on their bike.
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That's true. But I can still find brand-new rims from the 1980s for not-unreasonable prices, for instance. Same for quality calipers, brake shoes are still being made by Koolstop to fit my vintage Dura Ace holders, good quality cables are still being made...So I think we'll be good for the foreseeable future.

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Originally Posted by Polaris OBark
This guy got his finger cut off at the tender age of 4 by a disk break belonging to some brifter passing through Lompico:

My uncle’s a major dead head.

I had no idea Jerry García was missing a part of a finger until now.

This morning my number 2 asked, “Dad, what’s a begonia?” I only know from the song, have no idea if I’ve seen one in real life.

Anyway. smiling Jerry much more pleasant than bickering about spelling.
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Originally Posted by thehammerdog
pretty bike clean.
i agree with your statement I was able to buy fancy paul canti's it is a fantastic bike .

at gravel race 2022

That’s a really pretty bike.

If I was concerned I guess I’d buy extra rim brake components and seal them up until needed.
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If the question is "quality" rim brakes and components - i better understand now

Was looking for good 26" tubeless compatible mountain bike tires not too long ago --- everyone catalogues a model or 2 - but finding any in stock is a royal pain -- and we are less than 10 years removed from the 26'ers
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Originally Posted by Germany_chris
Paul Components my favorite..I send a lot of money to Chico
I love those guys -- I even got to talk to Paul once. But I have to say, the Neo-Retro cantilevers must be made out of pot metal these days. One of mine snapped clean in half during an extremely low-impact collision. For what they cost, I expected better durability.
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Originally Posted by rosefarts
We are 50 years removed from the 70’s.

Look at the state of the art bicycle from 1920 and compare it with a bike from the 70’s.

I’d definitely say that bikes have changed a lot less in the last 50 years than the 50 years before that. They got smoother, faster, more precise, and lighter. Most of the parts function the same, just a bit better.

Mtn biking is approximately 35 years old in total. The bikes have changed so much that the sport has been reinvented into several different directions.
Really? Do to old farts that probably took money under the table so recumbent bikes couldnt race, a 1920 DF bike is virtually the same as a 2022 DF bike. Same geometry!!!
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Originally Posted by smd4
As a qualified steam locomotive fireman, I may be one of the few here who gets this reference...
Didnt most of you convert to engineers or brakeman?
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