Mario Confente Bikes
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Single bolt Super Record seat post was shown in late 1978, but don't expect to be able to buy one right away. 1979 the earliest, and not that early.
As stated previously, components on these bikes can vary a lot. Some were sold as frame sets, some as complete bikes. Rider / purchasers, would want their choice of saddle and handlebar shape. Phil Wood hubs were even an option at the beginning. Mario had a preference for Campagnolo, and Cinelli, as that is what the standard "catalog" build came with.
A Confente is not a bike I would date by component date codes.
Frubin, how long did you wait for the bike from order and deposit?
As stated previously, components on these bikes can vary a lot. Some were sold as frame sets, some as complete bikes. Rider / purchasers, would want their choice of saddle and handlebar shape. Phil Wood hubs were even an option at the beginning. Mario had a preference for Campagnolo, and Cinelli, as that is what the standard "catalog" build came with.
A Confente is not a bike I would date by component date codes.
Frubin, how long did you wait for the bike from order and deposit?
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Yes, I just got the frame and fork from Mario and bought SR campy stuff later I remember carrying them home on the LA RTA bus. I had a Redondo bike shop press on the fork bearing race and frame cup and possibly install the right side BB bearing cup but I can't remember for sure. Not sure why the Avocet seat, tape, and toe clips etc. are not stock. They're what I wanted to use. Was something else normally used? The campy seatpost does have 2 top threaded bolt holes so that the angle of the seat can be set to what is desired.
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[Trivia question... was a Confente ever ridden in LeTour? and by whom if you think so.[/QUOTE]
I believe that Jonathan "Jacques" Boyer Finished 12th in Le Tour back in 1970-something on his prized red white and blue Confente. It was unprecedented for an American bang with the Euro big boys back then. He set the stage for Americans in Europe and Lemond came along shortly and finished the job. Wonder how George Mount would have done had he been able to race the Tour?
I believe that Jonathan "Jacques" Boyer Finished 12th in Le Tour back in 1970-something on his prized red white and blue Confente. It was unprecedented for an American bang with the Euro big boys back then. He set the stage for Americans in Europe and Lemond came along shortly and finished the job. Wonder how George Mount would have done had he been able to race the Tour?
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We have a winner, Boyer is correct, the bikes were badged as LeJeunes and used in the Tour. I have heard he still has one or some of them, but rides a Time now.
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Originally Posted by Chongo
Trivia question... was a Confente ever ridden in LeTour? and by whom if you think so.
I believe that Jonathan "Jacques" Boyer Finished 12th in Le Tour back in 1970-something on his prized red white and blue Confente.
I believe that Jonathan "Jacques" Boyer Finished 12th in Le Tour back in 1970-something on his prized red white and blue Confente.
Jacques shop is right down the street from me.
That's the # I listed.
And I'm pretty sure frubin lives not too far from me either.
There are almost as many Confente's as there are Ferrari's around here!
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Originally Posted by frubin
Not sure why the Avocet seat, tape, and toe clips etc. are not stock. They're what I wanted to use. Was something else normally used?
Most folk ride a saddle about level, +/-, long ago when one had a saddle tilted down as yours is, it was due to a search for comfort, where a different saddle was the better choice to resolve the problem. When tilted down, you are using your legs to force yourself from sliding forward, wasting energy. I always laugh, as coming off a layoff of the bike ANY saddle hurts for 200 miles or so, even my favorite.
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Yes, they are clincher tires and tubes on Araya wheels. Did not trust sew up tires after I had one slip off a wheel of mine on an old Schwinn Paramount that I used to have.
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What saddle would you recommend? I was thinking about replacing the Avocet Touring III seat that's on it now. Is Concor a good one? Thanks.
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Originally Posted by frubin
I forgot the terminology but those are tire and tube on Araya wheels. Did not trust sew up tires after I had one slip off a wheel of mine on an old Schwinn Paramount that I used to have.
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Saddles are VERY personal, Concor does not work for me, but other's love them, if you have not been riding much, any saddle will hurt for a while, you need to test sit on some, if it feels uncomfortable from the start, probably no go, discomfort after 20 minutes? might be a winner later.
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Originally Posted by Dr.Deltron
My spelling is bad. See post #4!
Jacques shop is right down the street from me.
That's the # I listed.
And I'm pretty sure frubin lives not too far from me either.
There are almost as many Confente's as there are Ferrari's around here!
Jacques shop is right down the street from me.
That's the # I listed.
And I'm pretty sure frubin lives not too far from me either.
There are almost as many Confente's as there are Ferrari's around here!
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I'd guess the period seat would have been a Cinelli, but Brooks would be good too, and are my personal choice: Pros in the old days, for some reason I prefer B17s now. I'd think the Avocet would've been a little later. I don't care for the Concors myself, my Cinelli came with one and got switched to a B17. Pro-Strata was a model decal on the chainstays I believe. Nothing wrong with clinchers if that's what you prefer.
You certainly have one of the holy grail bicycles in fabulous condition. Do you recall the original frame purchase price?
You certainly have one of the holy grail bicycles in fabulous condition. Do you recall the original frame purchase price?
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I was thinking about a Brooks Titanium Swallow. They look pretty neat and the leather tension is adjustable. They go for $750 a pop at Yellow Jersey Cycle in Madison , WI.
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Sure, if money is no object, though the tension is adjustable on all Brooks. Might hit the swap meets and get lucky and pick one up for 25 or so! I've found a couple...
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Fred.. If you want a saddle that is age appropriate or one that Mario put on his bikes.... I think you'll want a vintage Cinelli Unicanitor seat but a vintage Selle Concor seat, a Selle Regal or vintage Brooks Professional leather seat would be somewhat correct as well.
I'm not exacty sure when the first Selle San Marco Rolls and Selle Turbo seats popped up but I'd guess around '81 or so. Those are nice vintage seats as well.
If it were my bike, again, I'd make it as 'correct' as possible....that would mean a Cinelli Unicanitor seat.
I'm not exacty sure when the first Selle San Marco Rolls and Selle Turbo seats popped up but I'd guess around '81 or so. Those are nice vintage seats as well.
If it were my bike, again, I'd make it as 'correct' as possible....that would mean a Cinelli Unicanitor seat.
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Originally Posted by frubin
I was thinking about a Brooks Titanium Swallow. They look pretty neat and the leather tension is adjustable. They go for $750 a pop at Yellow Jersey Cycle in Madison , WI.
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Thank you for the information on Wallingford. I ordered a Brooks antique brown Swallow from them at very good price.
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Just an FYI update, a guy on the CR list says this looks like the "brother/sister" bike to the Confente he owns, same color paint and details but this one (011) is a larger frame...and his is serial number 012.
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Originally Posted by frubin
What are Pro-Strada decals?
While yours does not have them, no need to worry, I have been advised that there is at least one other without. As this bike was built after Mario got locked out of the original shop, not having all of the transfers he wanted and or a painter who was happy putting them on is of no surprise.
Part of the Mario, Medici entanglement of some interest, Medici also used the Pro-Strada model name, in the same typography even, just with the two colors reversed...that could be the reason as well...