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Are hookless tubeless wheels/tires risky?

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Old 05-05-22, 10:32 AM
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Are hookless tubeless wheels/tires risky?

Hello,

I'm about to purchase a new road bike with tubeless Zipp 303 S wheels and tires. I recently read that such wheels with hookless rims may be more prone to tire blow-offs. Does anyone, who has moved to tubeless tires, experienced such catastrophic failures?
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Everything is risky, riding a bike is no exception. I've been using hookless rims for 5 or 6 years and have nothing but good things to say about the experience. Well, except the tires are slightly more expensive.
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You should be fine as long as you use the appropriate tyres and don't over-inflate. Most issues are when people start running incompatible tyres and/or exceed the maximum recommended pressure.
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If you are purchasing new, it is most likely that the tires and wheels are compatible. (If they are both Zipp, it would be a very safe assumption.) If you have any doubt, check with the manufactures of both the tire and wheel with respect to compatibility.
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I rode hookless rims for over 45 years on my old Schwinn's. Never a issue. They weren't tubeless, but I think the tubeless aspect is a completely separate issue.

Don't overinflate or underinflate them and make sure you use tires that specify they are for hookless rims if you need the utmost in safety.

And even if you have that catastrophic failure, you'll probably be okay. As long as you aren't going 50 plus mph down a road with hairpin switchbacks and cliffs on the side.

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Originally Posted by kaunosario
Hello,

I'm about to purchase a new road bike with tubeless Zipp 303 S wheels and tires. I recently read that such wheels with hookless rims may be more prone to tire blow-offs. Does anyone, who has moved to tubeless tires, experienced such catastrophic failures?
No. Like all have said, as long as you're using compatible tires and stay within recommended tire pressure, there is no issue.

https://www.sram.com/en/zipp/campaig...-compatibility
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I have about 12k miles on my set of 303S. Awesome wheels - one of my best bike-related purchases. Most of the new, high-end tubeless tires being released are compatible (TSS ETRTO compliant).
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Originally Posted by oris
No. Like all have said, as long as you're using compatible tires and stay within recommended tire pressure, there is no issue.

https://www.sram.com/en/zipp/campaig...-compatibility
this list isn’t exhaustive, there are a number of hookless compatible tires not in that list that will work fine.



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I have about 12k miles on my set of 303S. Awesome wheels - one of my best bike-related purchases. Most of the new, high-end tubeless tires being released are compatible (TSS ETRTO compliant).
Only about 2200 on mine but completely agree. I bought these wheels before I had a bike to put them on.
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I have 303s hookless wheels with Pirelli p zero 30mm tires. I inflated them with a standard bike pump. I had my first tubeless puncture recently - a 2 inch long staple that made two holes. I stopped, rotated the staple down and pulled it out. The punctures sealed quickly with orange seal endurance. Just had to add CO2 to keep going. I've descended at 57 mph with them.
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Originally Posted by kaunosario
Hello',I'm about to purchase a new road bike with tubeless Zipp 303 S wheels and tires. I recently read that such wheels with hookless rims may be more prone to tire blow-offs. Does anyone, who has moved to tubeless tires, experienced such catastrophic failures?
It's risky if you don't know how to operate them properly, like everything else. Never had a single issue with my setup in 3 years. Not even a flat after a several thousand KMs.
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Thanks, everyone for your comments and reassurance.
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Old 05-09-22, 08:08 AM
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I have Zipp 303 S as well and agree with others.
These are awesome wheels - highly recommend.
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