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I use extractors as a last resort. If you do, drilling the right size hole and centering the hole is key to a stuck bolt. Also apply a little heat, especially if there is a threadlocker product on the threads. If a bolt is really stuck, like cross threaded or rusted, an extractor will probably just break.
Are the crank bolts the Shimano style with 2 pinch bolts? Those are probably hardened bolts. Are they stripped? You might be able to pound a bigger Allen wrench in there, maybe an SAE size.
Cleat screws might need a good soaking with a penetrating oil. Are they Allen head or slotted? An impact driver might help if you can borrow one.
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Are the crank bolts the Shimano style with 2 pinch bolts? Those are probably hardened bolts. Are they stripped? You might be able to pound a bigger Allen wrench in there, maybe an SAE size.
Cleat screws might need a good soaking with a penetrating oil. Are they Allen head or slotted? An impact driver might help if you can borrow one.
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08-02-22, 08:31 AM
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The shimano ones are the 2 pinch bolts. It almost makes me wonder if I got a counterfeit set because the metal in these bolts is so soft, they got stripped by my park tools torque wrench. I have some bolts from older cranks that are not stripped so I need to take these ones out and put new ones in. The cleat bolts are cheap-o Look stock bolts/screws that always seem to strip on me. Possibly user error, as my mechanic is a certifiable idiot in his field.
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08-02-22, 08:34 AM
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I think it’s a series of finger or earlobe sticks, while doing some sort of ascending protocol on the bike. They can estimate it from respiratory gas analysis, the way they do VO2, but it’s not as accurate for this. Lactate also tells you a lot about your general metabolic health.
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08-02-22, 08:35 AM
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The shimano ones are the 2 pinch bolts. It almost makes me wonder if I got a counterfeit set because the metal in these bolts is so soft, they got stripped by my park tools torque wrench. I have some bolts from older cranks that are not stripped so I need to take these ones out and put new ones in. The cleat bolts are cheap-o Look stock bolts/screws that always seem to strip on me. Possibly user error, as my mechanic is a certifiable idiot in his field.
The Look cleat screws I get are 4 mm Allen and they are cheap/cheesy. If you can't get them to move you could try a sharp chisel and tap around the outside of the screw head in the direction you want them to go. Be patient.
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08-02-22, 08:37 AM
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I use extractors as a last resort. If you do, drilling the right size hole and centering the hole is key to a stuck bolt. Also apply a little heat, especially if there is a threadlocker product on the threads. If a bolt is really stuck, like cross threaded or rusted, an extractor will probably just break.
08-02-22, 08:46 AM
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The shimano ones are the 2 pinch bolts. It almost makes me wonder if I got a counterfeit set because the metal in these bolts is so soft, they got stripped by my park tools torque wrench. I have some bolts from older cranks that are not stripped so I need to take these ones out and put new ones in. The cleat bolts are cheap-o Look stock bolts/screws that always seem to strip on me. Possibly user error, as my mechanic is a certifiable idiot in his field.
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08-02-22, 09:09 AM
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I have a couple bolts that are a challenge to remove so I think I need a bolt extractor. These include the bolts to my cleats and the 4mm crankarm fixing bolts.
I don't see that Park Tools makes a bolt extractor. Any suggestions for a budget bolt extractor for bicycle-sized bolts?? Most of the ones on ScamBay seem to be designed for autos and are too big.
I don't see that Park Tools makes a bolt extractor. Any suggestions for a budget bolt extractor for bicycle-sized bolts?? Most of the ones on ScamBay seem to be designed for autos and are too big.
08-02-22, 09:12 AM
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08-02-22, 09:16 AM
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Down tube shifters and platform pedals and you're good to go.
Oh, and iso square taper bb.
This is one of the many reasons I stopped where I did. Personal finances is the biggest reason though. And simple incomprehension at paying $2000 for a bike, 25 years ago.
Oh, and iso square taper bb.
This is one of the many reasons I stopped where I did. Personal finances is the biggest reason though. And simple incomprehension at paying $2000 for a bike, 25 years ago.
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08-02-22, 09:19 AM
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Nope, too recessed. I have spares as above so I don't mind if I destroy the stripped ones. I am disappointed in Shimano that they stripped so easily. I was using a good tool and the right torque per spec.
08-02-22, 09:19 AM
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08-02-22, 09:30 AM
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Eddy Merkx and the like did just fine with the old tech. Maybe you're too soft. Just a thought.
If LAJ is lurking, this should bring him out.
If LAJ is lurking, this should bring him out.
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08-02-22, 09:51 AM
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And watching small tube TVs.
And using dial-up.
And so on.
Yes I know that was tongue-in-cheek.
08-02-22, 09:58 AM
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I have several of his CDs, myself.
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08-02-22, 09:59 AM
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I was expecting to have to use a chain tensioner, but it happened to work out very nicely. With a new chain, it is a little tight, but it stretched out pretty quickly and is perfect now.
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08-02-22, 10:21 AM
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I have 9 of his CD's counting the 9/11 memorial release. All but one from 1980 ending with Night divides the day in 2002. I was inspired to listen to them today at work.
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08-02-22, 10:26 AM
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I honestly don't recall if that cable is a PTFE coated cable or not, but I have used those fancier cables in the past and I can say for my usage, it does not extend cable life.
I actually do think this is a PTFE coated cable, it's the one that came with the R8000 groupset.
I actually do think this is a PTFE coated cable, it's the one that came with the R8000 groupset.
08-02-22, 10:41 AM
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08-02-22, 10:53 AM
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We were on phone line DSL until a couple of years ago.
We watch video content on YouTube with a 13" iPad. Does that count?