netjack

Coming from a duhon uno and wanted to get into a single speed. Given, I like the more relaxed/up-right seating position, my research has led me to the Wabi Classic. Unfortunately, they're OOS and their price point has jumped up a couple hundred $$ so I'm looking for alternatives.

Total budget is <$1000 all in. Either complete or actually interested in doing a build (I have saddle, pedals, and grips).

Can anyone make any good suggestions or point me in the direction?

jay4usc

cant go wrong with the Wabi. Check eBay, Craigslist and offer up daily, they always pop up. If you live in SoCal, there’s a few for sale on Craigslist right now.

Lazyass

Road geometry with nice tubing at that price range, I really can't think of any equal alternative myself. If Wabi didn't even exist I'd probably order a Gunnar Street Dog which would cost more. Wabi found a good niche there.

netjack

Thoughts on 6061 Black Label v2? It's $700 vs $950 for wabi classic.

Broctoon

I've never ridden either of these, but based on the frame materials, I'd take the Wabi over the Black Label every time.

We don't have a crystal ball, but I suspect 30 years from now the steel Wabi will still be considered a classic. That plain-Jane aluminum from State is nothing special, and in 30 years it will still be just that. Decent bike, but nothing special.

TejanoTrackie 

Aluminum vs. Steel. Apples and Oranges.

jay4usc

Steel!

netjack

Looks like I'll be waiting a while for the wabi classic to come back in stock!

netjack

What about this? This is the only place I can find Surly Steamroller in stock:

https://roadbikeonline.com/products/...r-SS-Bike.html

Rolla

I think it's odd that they have five sizes of 2017 Steamrollers in stock. Also, realize that they are located in Malaysia. That's not to suggest that this makes them untrustworthy, but any international purchase involves more risk than buying domestically. If they accept PayPal or another payment method that offers buyer protection, use it.

netjack

Ya I might pass on the SS

netjack

Heat check on this with all the extras?
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...ssenger_banner

I'm not sure if it'll fit given I'm 5'9 and S-C tube is 56cm. Owner says he's 5'8" and fits him fine.

sdimattia

Height is a good indicator but by no means a 100% guarantee the bike will fit you. One person's 5'8" could be drastically different from your 5'9". Are they long limbed? Short inseam? If you can size it out in person, that'll be your best bet. Also, it's got a quill stem instead of a threadless fork so your ability to raise and lower the handlebars will be limited by the stem.

If it fits you, it looks like a nice bike though.

Also, you've got 3 threads going asking about different single speeds. If you consolidate to one thread, it'll be much easier to help you with the bikes you're interested in.

jay4usc

don’t waste your money on the Kilo. Here’s a white Wabi Classic on eBay a size 52, it’s located in College Park Maryland. At 5’9 that should fit you

https://www.ebay.com/itm/15456702259...AAAOSwNYhhFU7L

netjack

Yea I've pinged the guy. He's hoping for $800 on this (he listed on FB too). It's a 3hr ride for me and for $900 I can get a brand new one so let's see...

jay4usc

a framed just popped this morning but it’s a size 55.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Practically...-127632-2357-0

Senrab62 

If my size, I'd probably consider. Might get lucky on price with the auction format.

netjack

Yea I saw it's closer to those 6'. Sadly that's not me.

Senrab62 

I'm a little over 6' and that frame would be a full size or two, too small. Aren't you 5'9"? That's typically 54-56 range, depending on TT length.

netjack

Yes I am. According to Wabi's size chart that puts me squarely in the 52cm frame. 55 is 5'10-6'1 which is you, no?

Senrab62 

Nah, I'd have like a foot of seatpost length. Based on my current bikes and their TT length, I'd squarely be on a 58. I even have a couple 63cm bikes, because the TT works better. On a 55, I'd need 120-130mm stem which is very long for a road bike in my opinion.

Do you have a current bike set up the way you like? I'd measure TT length for fit, versus their guide which gives general guidance, with lots of variables.

jay4usc

im 5’ 9 and my current bike is a 52 but have ridden a size 55 Wabi and I can go either size. Have you measured your inseam? Check Wabi website about taking your measurements.

TugaDude

I have no idea of the current availability but I'd look for an All City Big Block and never look back.

jay4usc

another good option.

Senrab62 

Inseam, or standover is not most important in my opinion. TT length is most important, in my experience for best fit.

I'd measure CTC TT of a bike that feels comfortable, and use that as a reference point. 57-58 is my sweet spot, usually.