Side car electric
10-15-08, 09:43 PM
#1
Newbie
Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 3
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Side car electric
Do ya think, to make electric biking a more practical mode of trans, they better do side-cars? So there can be more than one person?
How fast is safe for an electric bike with a side car?
Safety issues? Prolly tires would need to be wider.
Dan Howitt
How fast is safe for an electric bike with a side car?
Safety issues? Prolly tires would need to be wider.
Dan Howitt
10-15-08, 11:43 PM
#2
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 75
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
10-16-08, 07:18 AM
#3
put our Heads Together
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: southeast pennsylvania
Posts: 3,155
Bikes: a mountain bike with a cargo box on the back and aero bars on the front. an old well-worn dahon folding bike
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
See the electrified Xtracycle bike in the photos thread (sticky thread) on this forum.
Xtracycles are designed to carry two adults - one rider and one passenger.
Xtracycles are designed to carry two adults - one rider and one passenger.
10-16-08, 09:38 AM
#4
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Port Townsend, WA
Posts: 982
Bikes: xtracycle, electric recumbent, downtube folder and more
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time
in
1 Post
I see very few motorcycles with sidecars and motorcycles haven't stopped being used because they aren't practical enough.
10-16-08, 06:20 PM
#5
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 75
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
10-17-08, 03:06 AM
#6
It's easy being green.
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: in the desert
Posts: 932
Bikes: Trek Beach Cruiser, Sun X-2 AX (bent)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Maybe the idea wouldn't work, but no need for insults. Plus, there are people who build crazy alternative and recumbent bikes all of the time. Some work, and some don't. But all the variations on bikes that we have came from someone who looked at things a little differently.
...Personally, I wouldn't want a side car, as I feel it would impair my ability to turn as I like. It's different on 2 wheels alone. ...I kind of like the detachable tandem things that I've seen. With a motor, a couple of folks could go far.
10-17-08, 09:38 PM
#7
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 75
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Hey, play nice!
Maybe the idea wouldn't work, but no need for insults. Plus, there are people who build crazy alternative and recumbent bikes all of the time. Some work, and some don't. But all the variations on bikes that we have came from someone who looked at things a little differently.
...Personally, I wouldn't want a side car, as I feel it would impair my ability to turn as I like. It's different on 2 wheels alone. ...I kind of like the detachable tandem things that I've seen. With a motor, a couple of folks could go far.
Maybe the idea wouldn't work, but no need for insults. Plus, there are people who build crazy alternative and recumbent bikes all of the time. Some work, and some don't. But all the variations on bikes that we have came from someone who looked at things a little differently.
...Personally, I wouldn't want a side car, as I feel it would impair my ability to turn as I like. It's different on 2 wheels alone. ...I kind of like the detachable tandem things that I've seen. With a motor, a couple of folks could go far.
You have to admit, it's a wicked idea...anyways... to each his own I guess.
10-18-08, 12:35 AM
#8
It's easy being green.
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: in the desert
Posts: 932
Bikes: Trek Beach Cruiser, Sun X-2 AX (bent)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
...Honestly, if what you said was absolutely horrible and I thought that you were hopeless, I probably would have ignored and gone on. It just seemed a bit harsh for a pretty new member (check his newbie status) who was just throwing out an idea. I'd hate to see us run somone off with a smart alecky comment.
...Now I'm done with my hijack.
10-18-08, 01:07 AM
#9
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 75
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Yeah, I've seen some severe rudeness around here as well. There are a few difficult folks in the forum, and I think there are some trolls out there who come around just to throw out comments that instigate stuff. Also, there are some folks who have interacted a lot and can joke sarcastically without true malice. But there are also lots of nice folks who come here to chat about bikes and life and life with bikes.
...Honestly, if what you said was absolutely horrible and I thought that you were hopeless, I probably would have ignored and gone on. It just seemed a bit harsh for a pretty new member (check his newbie status) who was just throwing out an idea. I'd hate to see us run somone off with a smart alecky comment.
...Now I'm done with my hijack.
...Honestly, if what you said was absolutely horrible and I thought that you were hopeless, I probably would have ignored and gone on. It just seemed a bit harsh for a pretty new member (check his newbie status) who was just throwing out an idea. I'd hate to see us run somone off with a smart alecky comment.
...Now I'm done with my hijack.
10-19-08, 03:36 AM
#10
It's easy being green.
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: in the desert
Posts: 932
Bikes: Trek Beach Cruiser, Sun X-2 AX (bent)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
10-19-08, 07:42 PM
#11
Sister Annie
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Hauraki Plains District, New Zealand
Posts: 1,519
Bikes: Retro Hercules adult tricycle, 1953 Hercules ladies roadster, 1950s Wearwell fixed gear 'Club' pathracer, 1980s Malvern Star 'Super Star', 1980s Healing GTX-105 Arabesque, 1980's Morrison Concorde & etc & etc.......
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times
in
2 Posts
Um...... a lot would depend on what you were wanting to haul about.
Check this out.......
I've been away for a while due to being needed elsewhere by the Church. I hope everyone has played nicely in my absence.
Check this out.......
I've been away for a while due to being needed elsewhere by the Church. I hope everyone has played nicely in my absence.
__________________
OMNIPOTENS aeterne Deus, qui nos secundum imaginem Tuam plasmasti, et omnia bona, vera, pulchra, praesertim in divina persona Unigeniti Filii Tui Domini nostri Iesu Christi, quaerere iussisti, praesta quaesumus ut, per intercessionem Sancti Isidori, Episcopi et Doctoris, in peregrinationibus per interrete factis et manus oculosque ad quae Tibi sunt placita intendamus et omnes quos convenimus cum caritate ac patientia accipiamus. Per Christum Dominum nostrum. Amen.
OMNIPOTENS aeterne Deus, qui nos secundum imaginem Tuam plasmasti, et omnia bona, vera, pulchra, praesertim in divina persona Unigeniti Filii Tui Domini nostri Iesu Christi, quaerere iussisti, praesta quaesumus ut, per intercessionem Sancti Isidori, Episcopi et Doctoris, in peregrinationibus per interrete factis et manus oculosque ad quae Tibi sunt placita intendamus et omnes quos convenimus cum caritate ac patientia accipiamus. Per Christum Dominum nostrum. Amen.
10-19-08, 08:15 PM
#12
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Central Alberta Canada
Posts: 95
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Well Done!!
I always enjoy seeing creative minds putting ideas into reality.
Your bike sidecar shows you put a lot of thought into it, and I really like when
someone can recycle old bike parts into something usefull as this.
Keep up the good work!!, I especially like the wooden chain guard.
Your bike sidecar shows you put a lot of thought into it, and I really like when
someone can recycle old bike parts into something usefull as this.
Keep up the good work!!, I especially like the wooden chain guard.
10-20-08, 09:51 PM
#13
Newbie
Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 3
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Um...... a lot would depend on what you were wanting to haul about.
Check this out....... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9eorq8wUUQ
I've been away for a while due to being needed elsewhere by the Church. I hope everyone has played nicely in my absence.
Check this out....... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9eorq8wUUQ
I've been away for a while due to being needed elsewhere by the Church. I hope everyone has played nicely in my absence.
10-21-08, 05:20 AM
#14
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2005
Location: IL-USA
Posts: 1,859
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 111 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 5 Times
in
5 Posts
In short: the sidecar wheel needs a brake.
You NEVER see a motorcycle sidecar without a brake, and there is a good reason for that. With no brake on the sidecar wheel, under hard braking the sidecar tends to push the bicycle's front-end to the opposite side. The harder you brake, the worse the steering gets.
If you don't want to use (or can't use) a dual-cable lever, then it is probably better to disconnect the bicycle's front brake and route that lever/cable to the sidecar wheel.
~
11-03-08, 02:35 PM
#15
Newbie
Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 3
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Aside from being wider, the main safety issues with bicycle sidecars is that a lot of home-built ones don't incorporate proper braking.
In short: the sidecar wheel needs a brake.
You NEVER see a motorcycle sidecar without a brake, and there is a good reason for that. With no brake on the sidecar wheel, under hard braking the sidecar tends to push the bicycle's front-end to the opposite side. The harder you brake, the worse the steering gets.
If you don't want to use (or can't use) a dual-cable lever, then it is probably better to disconnect the bicycle's front brake and route that lever/cable to the sidecar wheel.
~
In short: the sidecar wheel needs a brake.
You NEVER see a motorcycle sidecar without a brake, and there is a good reason for that. With no brake on the sidecar wheel, under hard braking the sidecar tends to push the bicycle's front-end to the opposite side. The harder you brake, the worse the steering gets.
If you don't want to use (or can't use) a dual-cable lever, then it is probably better to disconnect the bicycle's front brake and route that lever/cable to the sidecar wheel.
~
11-03-08, 06:03 PM
#16
Junior Member
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Salt Lake, UT
Posts: 22
Bikes: Gaint, Schwinn, Specialized
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
I have seen gasoline powered bicycles with sidecars here in P.R. China. The bad news is that I saw them in Wuhan. For some reason gasoline powered bicycles seemed to be more popular there; where I am they all seem to be electric (but then, I am in a, geographically, smaller city).
The rear wheel of the bicycle was driven, not the sidecar wheel. The sidecar had no brakes. The sidecar was used to haul goods, not people. (sorry, no picture)
The rear wheel of the bicycle was driven, not the sidecar wheel. The sidecar had no brakes. The sidecar was used to haul goods, not people. (sorry, no picture)
