Retro roadies- old frames with STI's or Ergos
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Very nice, from the same plant that produced many a good one for many a brand.
This is a project I've been working on for a while, mostly parts that I got either for free or very inexpensively. The frame is right at the limits of what I'm able to stand over, but it makes it quite easy to get the bars at the right height. It's also got a sufficiently short top tube for me to ride it comfortably. I took it for a couple quick test rides last night to get a sense of the overall feel, but today was the first real ride, and it's seen about 40 miles so far.
9-speed Ultegra levers, front derailleur, and crankset, 105 9-speed rear derailleur
9-speed Ultegra levers, front derailleur, and crankset, 105 9-speed rear derailleur
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Welcome to Bikeforums, @malvarado! This thread is specifically for vintage bikes with modern(ish) combined brake levers and shifters (aka 'brifters'). Other than that you are in the right place.
Before we can answer your questions in a useful way we need a little more information. What is it that you're looking for? (color, budget, frame style, tech) You have a picture of the kind of bike you're looking for? Or a mood board?
Anything that can help us point you in the right direction.
Before we can answer your questions in a useful way we need a little more information. What is it that you're looking for? (color, budget, frame style, tech) You have a picture of the kind of bike you're looking for? Or a mood board?
Anything that can help us point you in the right direction.This is my first post/reply so I hope I am replying to this thread correctly...
I'm looking for any tips or advice on updating a vintage woman's road bike. Eventually I'll be using it for semi-longer distances for some (I hope) S24O rides.
Specifically any thoughts on -
Thanks very much for any advice!
I'm looking for any tips or advice on updating a vintage woman's road bike. Eventually I'll be using it for semi-longer distances for some (I hope) S24O rides.
Specifically any thoughts on -
- What are some ideal models to keep an eye out for on craigslist
- What components would I prioritize and look to first upgrade
- Are there ideal tires and/or wheels that I might look to use (for a combination of roads and rail trails, so some possible light gravel)
Thanks very much for any advice!
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Mixte or women's sizes. Need to know the size, as that really matters if the rider is short.
Once you answer that, you can move on.
Once you answer that, you can move on.
This is my first post/reply so I hope I am replying to this thread correctly...
I'm looking for any tips or advice on updating a vintage woman's road bike. Eventually I'll be using it for semi-longer distances for some (I hope) S24O rides.
Specifically any thoughts on -
Thanks very much for any advice!
I'm looking for any tips or advice on updating a vintage woman's road bike. Eventually I'll be using it for semi-longer distances for some (I hope) S24O rides.
Specifically any thoughts on -
- What are some ideal models to keep an eye out for on craigslist
- What components would I prioritize and look to first upgrade
- Are there ideal tires and/or wheels that I might look to use (for a combination of roads and rail trails, so some possible light gravel)
Thanks very much for any advice!
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The rider (I) is short - just barely 5' so that does limit my frame options.
Other than that, I'd just like something easy to work with, not a big hassle... probably from the 70's or 80's era... drop bar... Doesn't need to carry a lot of weight, since any trips I'd get around to doing would not be very long, ideally weekend trips.
Other than that, I'd just like something easy to work with, not a big hassle... probably from the 70's or 80's era... drop bar... Doesn't need to carry a lot of weight, since any trips I'd get around to doing would not be very long, ideally weekend trips.
03-07-16, 04:29 PM
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-My original Look PP66 pedals from Walt's Bike Shop back in college. They've been regreased and been through a few sets of cleats since 1990 but they're STILL the gold standard in clipless pedal(According to whom? I've used them and didn't think they were anything special.)
In regards to the sub-20 lb goal, I'll worry about weight weenie gram issues when the 10kg ballast ring around the midsection disappears.
03-08-16, 08:14 PM
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My long term plan for this bike is an 11-speed Athena group, but I realized today that I had pretty much all the parts on hand to get it on the road with a 4600-series Tiagra 3x10 build so I can ride it until I get the other bits together.
Work in progress....
I had been thinking silver seatpost, stem and handlebars, but I kind of like the way the black looks.
What do you think?
Work in progress....
I had been thinking silver seatpost, stem and handlebars, but I kind of like the way the black looks.
What do you think?
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Nice start @Andy_K! Look forward to see that finished.
I was looking for an 11 speed Athena group set too for my next build but they're hard to find in silver. I ended up going with a lightly used 10 speed Centaur group from eBay instead.
It's surprisng how nice some of the lower end Shimano groups are. I built a Miyata 912 with an 11 speed Tiagra group for a friend and it turned out really nice. https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vi...my-miyata.html Two of my bikes have Sora groups and they both work really well.
I was looking for an 11 speed Athena group set too for my next build but they're hard to find in silver. I ended up going with a lightly used 10 speed Centaur group from eBay instead.
It's surprisng how nice some of the lower end Shimano groups are. I built a Miyata 912 with an 11 speed Tiagra group for a friend and it turned out really nice. https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vi...my-miyata.html Two of my bikes have Sora groups and they both work really well.
My long term plan for this bike is an 11-speed Athena group, but I realized today that I had pretty much all the parts on hand to get it on the road with a 4600-series Tiagra 3x10 build so I can ride it until I get the other bits together.
Work in progress....
I had been thinking silver seatpost, stem and handlebars, but I kind of like the way the black looks.
What do you think?
Work in progress....
I had been thinking silver seatpost, stem and handlebars, but I kind of like the way the black looks.
What do you think?
03-09-16, 05:11 PM
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1977 NISHIKI
She even has her original tires still on & holding air.
I guess I could say "ALL original"
I've decided to put a few of my bikes on c/list so what do you guys think I should ask $50 bucks?
She even has her original tires still on & holding air.
I guess I could say "ALL original"
I've decided to put a few of my bikes on c/list so what do you guys think I should ask $50 bucks?
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Very dirty, I should of cleaned er up a bit before posting photo's but time is of the essence
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You took a wrong turn somewhere. This is nowhere near the thread for that.
Classic and Vintage Bicycles: What's it Worth? Appraisals and Inquiries
On this thread, $3.50
Classic and Vintage Bicycles: What's it Worth? Appraisals and Inquiries
On this thread, $3.50
03-10-16, 06:53 AM
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You took a wrong turn somewhere. This is nowhere near the thread for that.
Classic and Vintage Bicycles: What's it Worth? Appraisals and Inquiries
On this thread, $3.50
Classic and Vintage Bicycles: What's it Worth? Appraisals and Inquiries
On this thread, $3.50
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03-10-16, 03:32 PM
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The rider (I) is short - just barely 5' so that does limit my frame options.
Other than that, I'd just like something easy to work with, not a big hassle... probably from the 70's or 80's era... drop bar... Doesn't need to carry a lot of weight, since any trips I'd get around to doing would not be very long, ideally weekend trips.
Other than that, I'd just like something easy to work with, not a big hassle... probably from the 70's or 80's era... drop bar... Doesn't need to carry a lot of weight, since any trips I'd get around to doing would not be very long, ideally weekend trips.
- Your question is off-topic in this thread. Better to start your own new thread with your question(s). This will get a bigger audience, and more replies. More fun too.
- include some pictures. Of bikes you find and need an opinion on, or just examples of what you like to buy.
This will surely get you going.
03-10-16, 08:52 PM
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Nice start @Andy_K! Look forward to see that finished.
I was looking for an 11 speed Athena group set too for my next build but they're hard to find in silver. I ended up going with a lightly used 10 speed Centaur group from eBay instead.
It's surprisng how nice some of the lower end Shimano groups are. I built a Miyata 912 with an 11 speed Tiagra group for a friend and it turned out really nice. https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vi...my-miyata.html Two of my bikes have Sora groups and they both work really well.
I was looking for an 11 speed Athena group set too for my next build but they're hard to find in silver. I ended up going with a lightly used 10 speed Centaur group from eBay instead.
It's surprisng how nice some of the lower end Shimano groups are. I built a Miyata 912 with an 11 speed Tiagra group for a friend and it turned out really nice. https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vi...my-miyata.html Two of my bikes have Sora groups and they both work really well.
03-10-16, 09:33 PM
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Really *****in build here! love the pedals and bar tape, and that rear mech, so cool!
I got this 1986 Schwinn Peloton frame from @wrk101 in a horse trade. It's a 25"er made of SL and SP, brazed by Panasonic in Japan.
Parts mix was some recycling but a lot of it was purchased just for the build.
Front to back:
-Craigslist Shimano RS20 Wheelset with 10s peed cassette and Schwalbe Lugano 23c tires. Appear to be takeoffs from a Cannondale Synapse. Easily as fat as most 25's. I'll see how they compare to my beloved Gatorskin Contis.
-Tektro interchangeable model dual pivots fitted with Koolstop pads
-Jagwire cable kit
-Origin 8 quill adapter, Titec Hellbent Stem (120, 0 degree), and the wonderful but now discontinued IRD Blackbird Comp handlebars. Origin8 twintape, 105 5700 series STI shifters
-Cinelli Vai seatpost holding up a Kore Retrobu (Turbo clone) saddle
-FSA Gossamer 50/34 crankset
-Microshift "White" derailleur set. 100 percent Shimano compatible.
-My original Look PP66 pedals from Walt's Bike Shop back in college. They've been regreased and been through a few sets of cleats since 1990 but they're STILL the gold standard in clipless pedals.
It came in at 22.5 lbs, which is quite respectable given the size of the frame an that I made no weight-weenie parts choices. As a Clyde, I go for durability over minimal gram count.
Verdict: Fast and neutral handling. I normally ride a 60-61, so this is slightly big and or "French Fit" but the shorter top tube of the 80's Schwinns ends up giving me a fit very similar to my 60cm 2000 Reynolds 853 Peloton.
Now that it's done, it's on to the next project...here's a tease:
Parts mix was some recycling but a lot of it was purchased just for the build.
Front to back:
-Craigslist Shimano RS20 Wheelset with 10s peed cassette and Schwalbe Lugano 23c tires. Appear to be takeoffs from a Cannondale Synapse. Easily as fat as most 25's. I'll see how they compare to my beloved Gatorskin Contis.
-Tektro interchangeable model dual pivots fitted with Koolstop pads
-Jagwire cable kit
-Origin 8 quill adapter, Titec Hellbent Stem (120, 0 degree), and the wonderful but now discontinued IRD Blackbird Comp handlebars. Origin8 twintape, 105 5700 series STI shifters
-Cinelli Vai seatpost holding up a Kore Retrobu (Turbo clone) saddle
-FSA Gossamer 50/34 crankset
-Microshift "White" derailleur set. 100 percent Shimano compatible.
-My original Look PP66 pedals from Walt's Bike Shop back in college. They've been regreased and been through a few sets of cleats since 1990 but they're STILL the gold standard in clipless pedals.
It came in at 22.5 lbs, which is quite respectable given the size of the frame an that I made no weight-weenie parts choices. As a Clyde, I go for durability over minimal gram count.
Verdict: Fast and neutral handling. I normally ride a 60-61, so this is slightly big and or "French Fit" but the shorter top tube of the 80's Schwinns ends up giving me a fit very similar to my 60cm 2000 Reynolds 853 Peloton.
Now that it's done, it's on to the next project...here's a tease:
03-11-16, 05:25 AM
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I got this 1986 Schwinn Peloton frame from @wrk101 in a horse trade. It's a 25"er made of SL and SP, brazed by Panasonic in Japan.
Parts mix was some recycling but a lot of it was purchased just for the build.
Front to back:
-Craigslist Shimano RS20 Wheelset with 10s peed cassette and Schwalbe Lugano 23c tires. Appear to be takeoffs from a Cannondale Synapse. Easily as fat as most 25's. I'll see how they compare to my beloved Gatorskin Contis.
-Tektro interchangeable model dual pivots fitted with Koolstop pads
-Jagwire cable kit
-Origin 8 quill adapter, Titec Hellbent Stem (120, 0 degree), and the wonderful but now discontinued IRD Blackbird Comp handlebars. Origin8 twintape, 105 5700 series STI shifters
-Cinelli Vai seatpost holding up a Kore Retrobu (Turbo clone) saddle
-FSA Gossamer 50/34 crankset
-Microshift "White" derailleur set. 100 percent Shimano compatible.
-My original Look PP66 pedals from Walt's Bike Shop back in college. They've been regreased and been through a few sets of cleats since 1990 but they're STILL the gold standard in clipless pedals.
It came in at 22.5 lbs, which is quite respectable given the size of the frame an that I made no weight-weenie parts choices. As a Clyde, I go for durability over minimal gram count.
Verdict: Fast and neutral handling. I normally ride a 60-61, so this is slightly big and or "French Fit" but the shorter top tube of the 80's Schwinns ends up giving me a fit very similar to my 60cm 2000 Reynolds 853 Peloton.
Parts mix was some recycling but a lot of it was purchased just for the build.
Front to back:
-Craigslist Shimano RS20 Wheelset with 10s peed cassette and Schwalbe Lugano 23c tires. Appear to be takeoffs from a Cannondale Synapse. Easily as fat as most 25's. I'll see how they compare to my beloved Gatorskin Contis.
-Tektro interchangeable model dual pivots fitted with Koolstop pads
-Jagwire cable kit
-Origin 8 quill adapter, Titec Hellbent Stem (120, 0 degree), and the wonderful but now discontinued IRD Blackbird Comp handlebars. Origin8 twintape, 105 5700 series STI shifters
-Cinelli Vai seatpost holding up a Kore Retrobu (Turbo clone) saddle
-FSA Gossamer 50/34 crankset
-Microshift "White" derailleur set. 100 percent Shimano compatible.
-My original Look PP66 pedals from Walt's Bike Shop back in college. They've been regreased and been through a few sets of cleats since 1990 but they're STILL the gold standard in clipless pedals.
It came in at 22.5 lbs, which is quite respectable given the size of the frame an that I made no weight-weenie parts choices. As a Clyde, I go for durability over minimal gram count.
Verdict: Fast and neutral handling. I normally ride a 60-61, so this is slightly big and or "French Fit" but the shorter top tube of the 80's Schwinns ends up giving me a fit very similar to my 60cm 2000 Reynolds 853 Peloton.
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03-11-16, 06:01 AM
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Nice. How do you like the microshift group?
I don't care for Microshift's levers as they seem very plasticky and they're aesthetically ugly, so I went with the Shimano 5700 levers. I was considering doing my standard 10 over 8 Shimergo setup with Campy Veloce levers but Campy apparently made a some sort of change with the 2015 Veloce levers, so I wasn't going to take a $130 gamble on getting it to work. Being a big boy, I prefer the durability of 8 speed chains and cassettes but I figured with a fleet of bikes in the garage, I could try to join the post 2010 world of shifting. My initial impressions of the 5700 levers is that they are light touch and shifts are very soft. The old maxim of Shimano STI= snick, Campy Ergo = click, and SRAM Double Tap = BANG applies. here. I noticed no
The Microshift derailleurs work just fine. The rear is functionally interchangeable with a 105 or Ultegra. The front is also decent but not quite as minute-feature engineered as Shimano's offerings. I only have about 35 miles on the build thus far, so I can't speak for durability or adjustment drift beyond initial cable stretch but so far, so good.
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That build hangs together rather nicely, color-wise. Well done!
03-11-16, 01:31 PM
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1980 Peugeot Course (PFN10E) with Vitus 172 tubing. Updated with Shimano wheels, Sora brifters, 105 RD, Sora triple FD, triple crankset, new Jagwire cables (in orange trying to match the paint panels on the frame), carbon Kenesis fork, carbon FSA bars, VO stem, Ritchey threadless HS... has its own Thread but want it to be here also!!
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03-11-16, 01:32 PM
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Now back to back Peugeots! Love the wheelset on yours..
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1983 Schwinn Super Sport, Panasonic Built, 25" frame. Custom Paint, Tange Chromo fork, Shimano 105 mix of 5600 shifters, 5700 crankset, 5700 rd, 5800 fd, Tektra 737 brakes, Shimano RS31 Wheels, 3T Ergo Nova Bar and Charge Spoon Saddle. The bike is comfortable and fast. I am sorry, this is the second time I've posted on this string.
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1983 Schwinn Super Sport, Panasonic Built, 25" frame. Custom Paint, Tange Chromo fork, Shimano 105 mix of 5600 shifters, 5700 crankset, 5700 rd, 5800 fd, Tektra 737 brakes, Shimano RS31 Wheels, 3T Ergo Nova Bar and Charge Spoon Saddle. The bike is comfortable and fast. I am sorry, this is the second time I've posted on this string.