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Old 07-26-06, 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by centexwoody
You're the moderator & you are free to set the 'tone': a number of the other forums have 'trolls' that take their jollies from being snide or pernicious in their remarks.

As a 'relative' newbie, I'd like to think I know my place (!).
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I am NOT, repeat, NOT a moderator. I am repulsed by the thought. That would be the last thing I would like to accomplish or be. Shuddder!

Tom, I was joking with you a while back about "newbie" and I think I expressed my joke poorly and you took it the wrong way. Sorry if you took offense. I tend to joke a lot with a somewhat dry sense of "humor" (well humor to me - but likely not to many others!). Sometimes folks misread that.

And your place is a full participant in the forum. There is (or should be) no pecking order here.

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I just don't understand the attacks. If there is disagreement, well that's fine. Attacking certainly isn't going to win over the other individual. It seems so pointless.
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Ok! Ok! Ok!

As the unofficial 50+ chaplain, I appreciate all this time spent in confession. You have not held back, and this is good. But now it is time for an "Assurance of Pardon." The one I'm using this Sunday is from Psalm 145:13-18.

Leader: The Lord is faithful in all his words, and gracious in all his deeds. The Lord upholds all who are falling, and raises up all who are bowed down. The eyes of all look to you, and you give them their food in due season. You open your hand, satisfying the desire of every living thing.

All: The Lord is just in all his ways, and kind in all his doings. The Lord is near to all who call on him, to all who call on him in truth.

I hope this adds to discussion.
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Originally Posted by DnvrFox
Do you have some sort of radar or spy system telling you just when to stop harassing the A&S forum and pop into the 50+ forum for a SA remark, pretending you meet the requirements?

50 lashes to you!
Shouldn't that be 50+ lashes?
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Originally Posted by pastorbobnlnh
Ok! Ok! Ok!

As the unofficial 50+ chaplain, I appreciate all this time spent in confession. You have not held back, and this is good. But now it is time for an "Assurance of Pardon." The one I'm using this Sunday is from Psalm 145:13-18.

Leader: The Lord is faithful in all his words, and gracious in all his deeds. The Lord upholds all who are falling, and raises up all who are bowed down. The eyes of all look to you, and you give them their food in due season. You open your hand, satisfying the desire of every living thing.

All: The Lord is just in all his ways, and kind in all his doings. The Lord is near to all who call on him, to all who call on him in truth.

I hope this adds to discussion.
I just thought I should think of a Jewish parallel to this, but then I noticed it's from Psalms, so it is Old Testament, not New. Just shows what you can learn by re-reading more carefully!

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Originally Posted by Road Fan
Shouldn't that be 50+ lashes?
Yeah!
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Originally Posted by DnvrFox
Do you have some sort of radar or spy system telling you just when to stop harassing the A&S forum and pop into the 50+ forum for a SA remark, pretending you meet the requirements?

50 lashes to you!
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Originally Posted by pastorbobnlnh
Ok! Ok! Ok!

As the unofficial 50+ chaplain, I appreciate all this time spent in confession. You have not held back, and this is good. But now it is time for an "Assurance of Pardon." The one I'm using this Sunday is from Psalm 145:13-18.

Leader: The Lord is faithful in all his words, and gracious in all his deeds. The Lord upholds all who are falling, and raises up all who are bowed down. The eyes of all look to you, and you give them their food in due season. You open your hand, satisfying the desire of every living thing.

All: The Lord is just in all his ways, and kind in all his doings. The Lord is near to all who call on him, to all who call on him in truth.

I hope this adds to discussion.
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Originally Posted by chipcom
I see everything, my son.
When you reach your 50th, we will have a virtual birthday party and officially welcome you into the fold.

We will put this in our "suspense file" ready to be opened in a couple of years.
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Originally Posted by centexwoody
You're the moderator & you are free to set the 'tone': a number of the other forums have 'trolls' that take their jollies from being snide or pernicious in their remarks.
Somewhere in the "rules and regulations" of this site I'm willing to bet, (yup, I've never read them and probably never will.... ) There is a clause that's states something to the effect that "Bullying and intimidating others will not be tolerated". I have yet to see a moderator step in and stop a bully. So Trolls are there by encouraged to .....bully or at least attempt to. All in the name of Free speech... Hogwash! I really think sometimes the Moderators are as afraid of the Bully's as anyone.
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Originally Posted by Road Fan
I just thought I should think of a Jewish parallel to this, but then I noticed it's from Psalms, so it is Old Testament, not New. Just shows what you can learn by re-reading more carefully!

Ken - Omeyn!
Ken,

It should even work for our Muslim 50+ posters!
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Somewhere in the "rules and regulations" of this site I'm willing to bet, (yup, I've never read them and probably never will.... ) There is a clause that's states something to the effect that "Bullying and intimidating others will not be tolerated". I have yet to see a moderator step in and stop a bully. So Trolls are there by encouraged to .....bully or at least attempt to. All in the name of Free speech... Hogwash! I really think sometimes the Moderators are as afraid of the Bully's as anyone.
Not true. If you bring it to the atttention of the mods, they will usually take some action, especially if it is egregious. It happens a lot, you just don't hear about it. There are 61,125 (counting BP's multiple personalities) members and about 12 mods. They don't see everything.

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Which brings to mind... I don't recall seeing a blue star in this forum... Who is the mod for this forum.

Mind you, I might see the blue star hundreds of times a day, it is just for the moment I don't recall seeing it.
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Which brings to mind... I don't recall seeing a blue star in this forum... Who is the mod for this forum.

Mind you, I might see the blue star hundreds of times a day, it is just for the moment I don't recall seeing it.
There is not a specific mod for each forum. Each of the moderators share all of the forums amongst them.
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Originally Posted by DnvrFox
When you reach your 50th, we will have a virtual birthday party and officially welcome you into the fold.

We will put this in our "suspense file" ready to be opened in a couple of years.

Thanks for having faith that I will make it to 50!
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Originally Posted by Little Darwin
Which brings to mind... I don't recall seeing a blue star in this forum... Who is the mod for this forum.

Mind you, I might see the blue star hundreds of times a day, it is just for the moment I don't recall seeing it.
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Denver; Good thread. Thanks for raising the subject. Bob
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Wow, looking at the list of moderators, I see Ron H listed. He's the one you all ran off this forum a year or so ago.
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Wow, looking at the list of moderators, I see Ron H listed. He's the one you all ran off this forum a year or so ago.
Maybe 2 years ago?

And, we weren't very effective. He still posts here.

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Generally threads go bad for a couple of reasons:
1. Trolls - these people want to get a reaction and will say outrageous things just to see the affect
2. Someone makes a comment that people don't agree with and then someone puts a label on the person and off they go back and forth

If I want that type of action I will go over to P&R II. You get some good dialogs going on there
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i used to post on forums of all kinds, then got flamed and put down, bad. Result very reluctant to post much. this forum seems to be better than most. my guide line is, only post if you can help.

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Generally threads go bad for a couple of reasons:
1. Trolls - these people want to get a reaction and will say outrageous things just to see the affect
Being an effective troll requires real skills.

A really good troll is one who is not identified as a troll. Simply pushing the discussion around in the direction one wants it to go, creating disruption, laying back and not posting too often, being very subtle about it. We currently have one very effective troll on the 50+ forum, but I have him/her figured out.
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Originally Posted by DnvrFox
Being an effective troll requires real skills.

A really good troll is one who is not identified as a troll. Simply pushing the discussion around in the direction one wants it to go, creating disruption, laying back and not posting too often, being very subtle about it. We currently have one very effective troll on the 50+ forum, but I have him/her figured out.
Pushing a discussion towards a certain direction is Trolling? Not True. Not in my book. That is called open discussion. Just because someone wants to debate by throwing out different opinions or wants to stir up debate, it shouldn't be concidered Trolling. Creating a disruption? Probably. Not posting very often? This should never mark someone as a Troll.

By your deffinition, every one that isn't labeled a Troll, is a Troll. (Sorry, just Trolling here.... )
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CORRECTION, CORRECTION: Dnvr is NOT the Moderator BECAUSE:

1) he doesn't wear the BLUE STAR (something else I learned today)

2) at 50+, we're all self-regulating on our meds & therefore on our posting

3) at 50+ I/most of us wouldn't be able to remember what the BLUE STAR meant anyway
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By two bits-I'm a newbie also, and also would like to think I know my place, but have certainly never felt put in my place by anyone on the BF50+. I have learned and laughed so much since I found this forum, I would miss it very much if I didn't check it often.
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