livedarklions

It's not strictly a BF thing, but there really is a tendency for people to just take almost every single thread topic and turn it into some pointless piss contest debate. I like steel bikes, other people don't. I can't imagine wasting one second's thought on trying to convince them otherwise. I'll defend myself if someone accuses me of stuff to make their "case" against steel, but why would I care what they choose to ride?

Meantime, falling in and out of love with a bike is an interesting topic, and it got swamped by a bunch of people showing up for a fight that never happened.

livedarklions

Sounds like your relationship with the bike is getting deeper as you grow as a rider. There's a song in there somewhere!

I'm sort of intrigued by this idea of a boring bike. I kind of think of it as the bike's job is to not be something I think about while I make the ride exciting (or at least interesting). If I'm thinking about the bike a lot during the ride, it's usually not for a good reason.

wolfchild

I don't think that OP dilemma has anything to do with the actual carbon bike...I think the problem is just a general lack of motivation to go out and ride. Nothing wrong with feeling that way. I've gone through it myself and I am sure many other people have gone through it. Riding zwift or purchasing a new bike isn't going to solve a problem.

wolfchild

Carbon and frame material is one of the most effective baits and lures trolled through bikeforums...Everybody falls for it, I know I do.

wolfchild

The fight has been on ever since you joined the thread and started swinging your fists at everybody...

livedarklions

Liar.

atnyc

Well, I applaud your honesty.

I never care that much about frame materials. There was a time, at the infancy of so of these "new" materials, some materials have this or that drawbacks. But a lot of that had disappeared as the design and manufacturing process matures. Now, there're only a few fringe areas that people can even detect any ride characteristics being attributing to frame material. I've been through some of that "maturing process" in my bike ownership. So to me, it's pretty much a non-issue. Unlike you, I typically don't bother with any thread that's only about frame materials.

But this thread wasn't about frame material. That's why it's interesting to me.

Sy Reene

Ok.. please settle this for once and all. Please tell us what materials your other bikes are made out of. Since this isn't a 'material' debate (by a long shot ), I'm sure we'll find you have other CF bikes that are still perfectly awesome.

livedarklions

Are you now or have you ever been an anti-carbonist?

wolfchild

Maybe OP needs to de-carbonize himself and de-zwift himself and get a steel framed singlespeed. and go for a ride outdoors.

Sy Reene

Are you bound and determined to respond to every post, whether or not it has been addressed to you, and/or you have an ability to read minds and pretend you know the answer and all the reasons why? Wait, don't answer that.

livedarklions

You think you're being subtle?

woodcraft