I ride a $200 mtnBike that I bought 20 years ago. Can you still get a $200 bike?
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But I don’t want to ride a $200 bike, I didn’t want a $200 bike 20 years ago
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You get what you pay for. If your expectations are low you won’t be disappointed. Drive a Yugo and then a Mercedes, suddenly the Yugo is not the end all be all, unless you are just after very basic transportation.
As a a kid I rode a single speed, coaster braked Goliath of a bike with a paper rack since that was my job. It was fine then but I coveted my dads Raleigh 3 speed. Riding that was like night and day. Getting a Schwinn Varsity compared to the Raleigh was like night and... Moving to a Bianchi Racing bike in 1987 compared to my Schwinn was again..... Yeah, you see where this going and that’s why I don’t ride a Goliath single speed.
As a a kid I rode a single speed, coaster braked Goliath of a bike with a paper rack since that was my job. It was fine then but I coveted my dads Raleigh 3 speed. Riding that was like night and day. Getting a Schwinn Varsity compared to the Raleigh was like night and... Moving to a Bianchi Racing bike in 1987 compared to my Schwinn was again..... Yeah, you see where this going and that’s why I don’t ride a Goliath single speed.
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If you get something like that let a proper bike mechanic give it a tune up or if you have the skills do it yourself. the teenager at Wally world did not give it much love
Yes, you can still buy a new bike for less than $200 like this Schwinn Pathway advertised at $149 from Walmart. I am sure this bike is of lower quality than a $200 bike from 20 years ago. No serious bicycle rider would want to ride one of these as they are of such low quality. If I only had $200 to spend I would look at buying an older used bike that was in good working condition. See picture of new $149 Schwinn and link below.
https://www.walmart.com/ip/700c-Schw...Black/48520130
https://www.walmart.com/ip/700c-Schw...Black/48520130
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The fundamental tenet of Bike Forums: for every person who is willing to tell how much they spent on something, there is a person willing to tell how little they spent on something.
Both viewpoints are equally fallacious. It makes no difference what a bike cost if that bike is never ridden. Twenty years on a set of tires? I'm halfway through a set of tires I mounted in July, and I split miles between three bikes.
But I'll play along. I'm not in the market for a $200 bike, because it would feel weird to pedal said bike with shoes that cost more than the bike.
Both viewpoints are equally fallacious. It makes no difference what a bike cost if that bike is never ridden. Twenty years on a set of tires? I'm halfway through a set of tires I mounted in July, and I split miles between three bikes.
But I'll play along. I'm not in the market for a $200 bike, because it would feel weird to pedal said bike with shoes that cost more than the bike.
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Milk costs nearly double what what it cost twenty years ago.
A hair over 20 years ago my dad ordered a fully loaded GMC Yukon for under $30K.
Certainly, the diplomatic drop in regulations regarding importing goods made in Pacific Labor Colonies has kept clothing prices on a less steep incline, but even shirts and shoes at Walmart still cost at least 50% more now than they did two decades ago.
I vividly remember Snickers bar was $0.47 after tax at any Nice N Easy in 2000. $1.25 is the typical price at a gas station now- and that’s with forced slave labor in harvesting all of the raw materials!
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If someone is asking about a bike for mountain biking- in 2000 that was $500 base to get on something which the recommender wouldn’t feel guilty about misleading someone about. Yeah, it’s darned close to $1K now.
If someone is asking about a brand new bike for grocery getting and cruising around a gentle park- in 2000, $200 would do it before racks, bags, fenders, and lights. Here in 2020 you’re looking at $400 for a totally base machine which an established bike shop would sell with confidence that it won’t be coming back with any user-found defects.
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congratulations on having shrewdly purchased the wrong bike for the job. In 2000 you could’ve gotten a 1960s-80s Schwinn 3 speed with a rack already on it and some spanking new wide pavement tires for $70 total and it would’ve served your needs perfectly.
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Yes. You can still get a bike for 200 but don't expect it to be the same quality as the one you bought for the same price 20 years ago. While consumer products involving electronics haven't gone up much or in some cases have gone down, products like bikes have increased just based on the price of materials, components, labor, and inflation. $200 in the year 2000 is $300 in 2020 dollars.
Might be a better question to ask what a comparable bike would cost today. Check out the Giant site and look at some of the basic hybrid's or rigid MTB's and see what they cost.
I'm still using the Giant MTB I got back in the early 90's for early morning and wet weather rides. I think it was $250 new but not sure.
Might be a better question to ask what a comparable bike would cost today. Check out the Giant site and look at some of the basic hybrid's or rigid MTB's and see what they cost.
I'm still using the Giant MTB I got back in the early 90's for early morning and wet weather rides. I think it was $250 new but not sure.
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I don't like to waste money, but on my new bike, the wheels are going to cost $1000. I feel like that's worth it. And they aren't going to last 20 years, if all goes well. Because I'm going to ride them a lot. No 20 year old tires, that's for sure.
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“What?” indeed.
Milk costs nearly double what what it cost twenty years ago.
A hair over 20 years ago my dad ordered a fully loaded GMC Yukon for under $30K.
Certainly, the diplomatic drop in regulations regarding importing goods made in Pacific Labor Colonies has kept clothing prices on a less steep incline, but even shirts and shoes at Walmart still cost at least 50% more now than they did two decades ago.
Milk costs nearly double what what it cost twenty years ago.
A hair over 20 years ago my dad ordered a fully loaded GMC Yukon for under $30K.
Certainly, the diplomatic drop in regulations regarding importing goods made in Pacific Labor Colonies has kept clothing prices on a less steep incline, but even shirts and shoes at Walmart still cost at least 50% more now than they did two decades ago.
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I saw an old Dragnet episode from the 1960's recently. They were showing prices of household items like blenders and vacuum cleaners. These were quality made in USA products, but the blender sold for $40 back then, and the vacuum cleaner was $120 or so. That's more than we pay now for these items. Of course the quality was better, and all the money and jobs stayed here, but still. People had to be much more frugal back then.
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Do you have any of those shoes laying around you can give me for free? So I can sell them and buy me a >$200 bike!
I've had great success with cheap bikes actually (100% China made and China branded components, lots of steel components, freewheel, etc). I overhaul and re-assemble the bike myself (very important work for any bike that is assembled in China) immediately after purchase and regular lubing of drivetrain. I use them above and beyond what you'll encounter in commuting like cruising 24 mph over badly damaged roads, hauling ~30 lbs cargo, etc. Although I won't recommend them for riders over 140 lbs in weight.
Of course, I had no other choice given my very constrained budget. I'ved looked for used bikes before (under respectable brand names) but the insane demand have driven their prices up and almost brand new price in my country (~$1000 with potential repairs) and way way beyond my budget.
I've had great success with cheap bikes actually (100% China made and China branded components, lots of steel components, freewheel, etc). I overhaul and re-assemble the bike myself (very important work for any bike that is assembled in China) immediately after purchase and regular lubing of drivetrain. I use them above and beyond what you'll encounter in commuting like cruising 24 mph over badly damaged roads, hauling ~30 lbs cargo, etc. Although I won't recommend them for riders over 140 lbs in weight.
Of course, I had no other choice given my very constrained budget. I'ved looked for used bikes before (under respectable brand names) but the insane demand have driven their prices up and almost brand new price in my country (~$1000 with potential repairs) and way way beyond my budget.
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I saw an old Dragnet episode from the 1960's recently. They were showing prices of household items like blenders and vacuum cleaners. These were quality made in USA products, but the blender sold for $40 back then, and the vacuum cleaner was $120 or so. That's more than we pay now for these items.
In the spirit of this thread, you could probably use that blender sparingly (IE, not very often) and it will still work perfectly in twenty years.
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I hate to say it but even 20 years ago, $200 didn't buy much bike. About 20 years ago my wife and I bought his and hers mountain bikes. As I understood it, they were bottom of the line bikes. Schwinn Mesa GSX. Cost $450 each. I realize now that they were decent in that they were upgradeable. My wife didn't ride much so it stayed in it's original condition. I began riding and really took to it riding local trails. And I upgraded it slowly over several years after buying it, easily spending as much on upgrades as I had spent on the bike itself, if not more. I do believe the quality of the bike can play a part in how much a person rides their bike. If the bike doesn't operate very well or is very heavy, then the person may not ride it much. But if it is enjoyable to ride, the person will ride it much more often. Since there is no way to know whether a noob will take to biking, I think the only real rule of thumb to use is to buy as much bike as you can afford without spending tons of money on that initial bike. I'm glad we spent what we spent initially because it is quite possible that if we had purchased garbage Walmart bikes, I probably would not have ridden much and I wouldn't have gotten into it like I did.
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To take a low number even in 2000 and then transfer it to 2020 is a pretty ridiculous discussion.
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I was amazed when I found Walmart had irons for just nine dollars. They probably cost more than that 20-30 years ago! Crazy. Walmart is well known for setting a price point that it thinks it can sell an item in vast numbers for, and then aggressively hounding their suppliers to meet that price point. Items are built to satisfy a price point set by someone at Walmart.
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I spend quite a bit of time on a well traveled MUP that draws a lot of out of towners. On a weekend I will see 100s of beginner riders, easy to identify due to the lack of confidence and situational awareness. I will see a bunch of WalMart bikes attached to these riders and for the most part they all look showroom new. I hardly never see one that looks like it actually gets used.
I will at least slow down and usually stop when I see someone broken down on the trail. I would say it's 50/50 and brand new big box store bike that is literally broken vs. a flat tire or slipped chain on something a little higher up the food chain.
Of course the final proof that money buys quality, there are a number of bike rental outfitters and and they don't use $200 WalMart bikes, rather Treks, Jamis and Specialized.
I will at least slow down and usually stop when I see someone broken down on the trail. I would say it's 50/50 and brand new big box store bike that is literally broken vs. a flat tire or slipped chain on something a little higher up the food chain.
Of course the final proof that money buys quality, there are a number of bike rental outfitters and and they don't use $200 WalMart bikes, rather Treks, Jamis and Specialized.
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Good to see there are still $300 to $400 cheap options for regular people
https://www.popularmechanics.com/adv...untain-bikes/?
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Great to see the $299 price point still alive
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Actually, some of those $300 bikes are keeping bike shops going by their constant need of adjustments and repairs, replacement parts too.
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