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Old 03-28-21, 11:00 AM
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can you identify these pedals?




^here are the suspects... they are stamped on the spindle housings "Made in France 07 80". Spindle body and cage are alloy. They came off an early 80's Fuji, low-mid level, bicycle; the bicycle has a mixed bag of what appears to be original parts and upgrades. Thanks in advance for sharing your knowledge and/or guesses.
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the rivet treatment is similar to one employed by Maillard

the dating corresponds to an arrangement employed by Maillard

have not before seen this model

wonder if they could be an iteration of or submodel to the 600

at first glance one of the ideas that came to mind was Notario because of the dustcaps and lack of markings on the plates

this of course went out the window with the "MADE IN FRANCE" marking as Notario is an Iberian entity

do spindle ends bear a marking indicating their thread?

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Old 03-28-21, 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by juvela
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the rivet treatment is similar to one employed by Maillard

the dating corresponds to an arrangement employed by Maillard

have not before seen this model

wonder if they could be an iteration of or submodel to the 600

at first glance one of the ideas that came to mind was Notario because of the dustcaps and lack of markings on the plates

this of course went out the window with the "MADE IN FRANCE" marking as Notario is an Iberian entity

do spindle ends bear a marking indicating their thread?

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No threading identification is stamped on the spindles, just somewhat crude and plain "L" & "R" indications on the ends. These are English size & threads. Also, I noticed that the spindle body is a single alloy casting, i.e. the "arms" that provide attachment points for the cage are integral to the whole.
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the one-piece cast body is consistent with Maillard manufacture

the L & R markings are thread indications, i.e. 9/16"

if metric, they would be either unmarked or marked D & G for droit & gauche

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one thing you could do if you have not done so already is to try popping off the dust covers for a view of the spindle ends

some model 600 pedals have crimped spindle ends with non-adjustable and non-removable cones


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Originally Posted by juvela
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the one-piece cast body is consistent with Maillard manufacture

the L & R markings are thread indications, i.e. 9/16"

if metric, they would be either unmarked or marked D & G for droit & gauche

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one thing you could do if you have not done so already is to try popping off the dust covers for a view of the spindle ends

some model 600 pedals have crimped spindle ends with non-adjustable and non-removable cones


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I didn't know the "R" and "L" indicated 9/16" diameter, non-French, pedals.... I don't come across much French vintage stuff in these here parts. Good to know. I'll mark them "probably Maillard" . Almost definitely not original equipment then, as the Fuji bicycle catalog has them as MKS. Thanks Juvela.
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French thread would be "D" for "Droite" and "G" for "Gauche"......
Looking for these letter stamps on French made pedals (Usually on the spindle flats) is a quick way to find out what threading they have.
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Could possible be Maillard 700 pedals, based on the cut-out shapes. Although, most examples on the web have black plates and a red or black brand logo on the dust cap.
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There were lot of lower model pedals made by the French where they applied minimal branding, or sometimes, none at all, especially when provided as part of large quantity contract groups used on lower priced bike models by the big manufacturers. You will just have to do some comparative research, using known/"confirmed" examples for reference.
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Yeah... the "windows" appear to be pretty much a match for Mailard 700's, though some design details point to possibly an attempt to cut costs from the standard production ones.
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Yeah... the "windows" appear to be pretty much a match for Mailard 700's, though some design details point to possibly an attempt to cut costs from the standard production ones.
Because of the plain, snap on, domed bearing dust caps, this pedal set cannot be "700" level model, which were the top of the line components from Maillard/Spidel. The 700's always came with screwed on bearing dust caps that required special serrated ring wrenches to screw them on and off. The 700 pedal cages were looking less chunky looking than what you see on these pedals. More towards something similar to what you see on contemporary Campy quill pedals
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Originally Posted by Vintage_Cyclist
Could possible be Maillard 700 pedals, based on the cut-out shapes. Although, most examples on the web have black plates and a red or black brand logo on the dust cap.
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model 700 has overall better finish

its dust caps are threaded rather than pressed in

the spanner flats on the spindles exhibit the shoulder similar to Campag which the spindles of the subject pedals lack

VeloBase.com - Component: Maillard 700 (red dust cap, silver cage)

​​​​​​VeloBase.com - Component: Maillard 700 (red dust cap, black cage)

​​​​​​VeloBase.com - Component: Maillard 700 (black dust cap with serrations, silver cage)

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Atom and Spidel used the "same body" on some pedals, and the Atom 600 (early and later models ) had same cage cutouts, but were in the same league as the Maillard (same factory I'd bet) with better finish, screw-on dustcaps and probably better finishing, maybe bearings and cones/races, too.
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Originally Posted by unworthy1
Atom and Spidel used the "same body" on some pedals, and the Atom 600 (early and later models ) had same cage cutouts, but were in the same league as the Maillard (same factory I'd bet) with better finish, screw-on dustcaps and probably better finishing, maybe bearings and cones/races, too.
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yes indeed!

products with names such as Atom, Prior, Normandy, Porthor, Maillard, Spidel and others all issued from the Etablissements Maurice-Maillard facility in Incheville

plant ceased play about 1991 iirc

control moved from Maillard to Fichtel & Sachs in 1987 and then on to SRAM in 1997

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maillard_(entreprise)

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regarding the unserviceable model 600 pedals mentioned earlier here is the forum's discussion of such a set -

https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...00-pedals.html

VB listing for one iteration of them:

VeloBase.com - Component: Atom 600 (2nd version; red label on round cap)


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So, I found my favorite prying blade and popped off the end cap.... the spindle end is swaged on, like the Atom 600 above. That's disappointing, and limits my chances of using them on a personal bicycle project, unless it's some sort of "low use" type bicycle.
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