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Old 06-29-21, 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by prj71
After the 173rd time of seeing that, it's still as much of a yawn as it was the first.
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Old 06-29-21, 09:54 AM
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You need at least a 12 speed cassette because you have to pedal at the exact same cadence at all times, up the hills and down.
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Old 06-29-21, 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Chuckles1
You need at least a 12 speed cassette because you have to pedal at the exact same cadence at all times, up the hills and down.
Ok, that's a new one...
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Old 06-29-21, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by pgjackson
This seems like exactly the kid of subject that would generate a 50 page thread on. I assume people still argue every nit-noid detail to the bitter end. Watched some videos on the thru-axels last night and don't see a real benefit. Never had an issue with the QR on my wheels.
I should have thrown a smiley in my response. Like I said, until three months ago, I did not know about through axles. They apparently help avoid the issue of whether the wheel is truly centered between rim brake pads or with the more exacting disc brakes (which my new bike also has). Better or not, the bike came that way, so my first flat about two weeks into ownership required learning (not much really) about how they work.

Mine, Specialized, are cute and have what looks like a quick release lever but is part of the one piece assembly. It does work as a handle to unscrew the thing.
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Old 06-29-21, 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Paul Barnard
After the 173rd time of seeing that, it's still as much of a yawn as it was the first.
As is posts like yours claiming marketing gimmickry.
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Old 06-29-21, 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by kahn
I should have thrown a smiley in my response. Like I said, until three months ago, I did not know about through axles. They apparently help avoid the issue of whether the wheel is truly centered between rim brake pads or with the more exacting disc brakes (which my new bike also has). Better or not, the bike came that way, so my first flat about two weeks into ownership required learning (not much really) about how they work.

Mine, Specialized, are cute and have what looks like a quick release lever but is part of the one piece assembly. It does work as a handle to unscrew the thing.
What keeps them from backing out? Doesn't seem to be a mechanism to lock them in other than screwing it in tightly?
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Old 06-29-21, 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by kahn
They apparently help avoid the issue of whether the wheel is truly centered between rim brake pads or with the more exacting disc brakes (which my new bike also has).
Thru axle also eliminates the risk of the wheel coming loose from the quick-release dropouts...Which has happened three times to me in the past before I had thru axle bikes.

12x100mm front and 12x142mm rear will be around for a long time.
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Old 06-29-21, 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by prj71
Thru axle also eliminates the risk of the wheel coming loose from the quick-release dropouts...Which has happened three times to me in the past before I had thru axle bikes.

12x100mm front and 12x142mm rear will be around for a long time.
I sorta get the disc hate but I really don't get the thru axle hate, to me thru axle looks easier.

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Old 06-29-21, 11:03 AM
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People live in sheds now.
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Originally Posted by bruce19
You have to throw away all your bikes and buy a gravel bike.
No... That old ChroMo bike can now be rebuilt for a nice Gravel type bike. And Franken bikes are completely acceptable in the Gravel bike species...

Oh!!! Sorry!!! You gotta take your bike to a shop to have it tuned up. In that case...

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You have to throw away all your bikes and buy a gravel bike.
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Old 06-29-21, 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by kahn
Actually, I have been riding but possibly in some sheltered location. Where the heck did gravel bikes come from? My road bike has done a few rides of about 15 or so miles on forest service roads. I did break a spoke on one of those rides but released the brakes on that wheel and climbed a 2500 foot pass on pavement the next day. Was very cautious coming back down with only the one brake!!! And then I did get a "dedicated" mt bike which saw mostly pavement but the occasional interesting off road adventures like a week in Moab with no shocks. Those were the days.
Nobody knows where they came from, or why a cx bike wasn't good enough. A few people about the time you stopped posting put drop bars on rigid mtbs, and bam! now we got wide tired, 1x drivetrain CX bikes... for GrAvEl.
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Old 06-29-21, 11:49 AM
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Oh yeah, we forgot to tell you; there's a whole new wheel size now; 27.5. 650b are back. Because of the pandemic forcing people to bike due to boredom, even the humble walmart bike is worth 3 figures now.

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Old 06-29-21, 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Paul Barnard
After the 173rd time of seeing that, it's still as much of a yawn as it was the first.
It's the appropriate avatar for a large number of forum members.
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Old 06-29-21, 11:56 AM
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tires seem to = tyres.

It can get exhausting keeping up to speed on that one.
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Old 06-29-21, 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by ksryder
Old dudes are threatened by any sort of innovation or change.

Oh wait, you were asking for what was new and different. My bad.

I don't know where you ride, but the guys who I see on the latest and most newest are mostly old dudes.
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Old 06-29-21, 12:15 PM
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The only thing you missed was five years of riding. Don't let that happen again!
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Old 06-29-21, 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by pgjackson
What keeps them from backing out? Doesn't seem to be a mechanism to lock them in other than screwing it in tightly?
I believe there's a suggested torque value although the Specialized design with the lever does not lend itself to torque. But I guess it is like QR - make sure it is tight. How many youtube videos show pressing the QF till it leaves an impression on your palm or some such. Like other bolts and screws on moving parts, they probably should be checked periodically.
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Old 06-29-21, 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by pgjackson
After watching my beloved road bike sitting the corner of the garage for years just wasting away I decided to give it another go. Dropped it off at the local shop today for a complete overhaul and am looking to get back in the saddle.
Welcome back to cycling. 5 years is not bad; I had a 23 year hiatus between my late teens and my early 40s.

As soon as you get your bike back, ride up a small hill while holding your hands together and resting your arms on the tops of your handlebars, and ride down the same hill with your hands in the drops and your bum tucked under the front of your saddle, just to give the UCI the finger. Do both at single digit speeds just to be safe.
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Old 06-29-21, 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul Barnard
After the 173rd time of seeing that, it's still as much of a yawn as it was the first.
No more so than the tired rants that inspire it.
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Originally Posted by pgjackson
What keeps them from backing out? Doesn't seem to be a mechanism to lock them in other than screwing it in tightly?
Just hand tighten and they never move. There is easily enough friction on the interface to stop them from ever backing out. I’ve certainly never seen one come loose or worried about it. QRs seem flimsy by comparison, which is why they first disappeared from mountain bikes.
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Old 06-29-21, 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Rolla
No more so than the tired rants that inspire it.
What I posted wasn't a rant. It was a statement of fact, and it was free of the emotion that is normally associated with a rant. I remember scoffing at Shimano's first crack at BioPace chainrings. People thought I was "yelling at clouds" then too. Nope. I didn't see them as an improvement or an upgrade. I was right. Come to think of it, I haven't read very much at all about creaky square taper English threaded bottom brackets. And somehow I have never blown a turn with mountain bike bars that are less than 3 feet wide either. Marketers convince people that the latest iteration of something is a great improvement, and that keeps the industry turning. I fully support that. I support it while staying grounded in reality. <---- That's not a rant.
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Originally Posted by livedarklions
I don't know where you ride, but the guys who I see on the latest and most newest are mostly old dudes.
That’s who can afford it. Young people starting out a career or a family don’t have the money.
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Originally Posted by pgjackson
What keeps them from backing out? Doesn't seem to be a mechanism to lock them in other than screwing it in tightly?
Well.... we did have QR Thru-Axles for a while.
Called, and you can't make this Sh Stuff up.... "RAT"
But I couldn't get those off the bike quick enough.
QR standing for Quick Replacement.

So now we go to a Guy called..... Robert !
But then you need to carry a 6mm Allen, just to get the wheels off the bike.
Oh and a Torque wrench to put them back on.
However, I much rather have the wheels come off, only when I want them to come off.

TLDR;
So yes, we bolt our wheels on, but the bolt did get a fancy name.

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Old 06-29-21, 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by livedarklions
I don't know where you ride, but the guys who I see on the latest and most newest are mostly old dudes.
Who have the money...
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Old 06-29-21, 01:57 PM
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it's a full circle

road bikes are gravel bikes
90's bikes are gravel bikes
gravel bikes are XC bikes
XC bikes are "down-country"
trail bikes are more enduro
enduro is now closer to DH/freeride

we came from 9x135 quick release to 12x142 thru-axle to 12x148 boost to 12x157 super boost hubs
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