cop rams and then pulls cyclist over "for riding in the middle of the street"
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From what I can gather from the video, is that the LEO was looking for drug usage by the cyclist, and he was trying to use lane positioning as his "probable cause".
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The truth is the cop was pissed that the cyclist was filming his traffic stop. The cop retaliated by fabricating a reason to detain the cyclist and then carried it out by recklessly endangering the cyclists life by using his 4000 lb machine to force him off the road. The cop then proceeded to make up laws that dont exist and violate the cyclists 4th Amendment rights by searching him.
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The truth is the cop was pissed that the cyclist was filming his traffic stop. The cop retaliated by fabricating a reason to detain the cyclist and then carried it out by recklessly endangering the cyclists life by using his 4000 lb machine to force him off the road. The cop then proceeded to make up laws that dont exist and violate the cyclists 4th Amendment rights by searching him.
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From what I gathered, from what was presented in the first part of the video, I did not get the impression that LEO knew that he was being videoed before or in the first minute of making the traffic stop. The LEO's comment in the beginning, about the cyclist being "high" because of the cyclist's lane positioning, is what I'm going with. You may read more into this LEO's stop of the cyclist, but I'm sticking with what I saw and heard in the beginning moments of the video.
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My sister in law is a correction officer in one county my mother in law a retired corrections officer in another county and a friend I have known since childhood is a deputy . I know a lot of officers . for every "bad cop" there are twenty good ones just trying to make a difference In my experiance if the videographer is widely disliked there is probably a good reason for it
The officer tone was polite at the start, the videogragher was rude vulgur and disrespectful from the start which shows low class and poor upbringing. But that is common from most people who label themselves as community activist.
It is a sad picture of our society when every bad thing shows up on on film and you never see the thousands of time officers do good .
In 1997 when I got to the car accident my 17 year old son died in, A 6'5" 240# tough as nails ex-marine state patrolman came to me . He was apoligizing and crying because he tried his best and just couldn't save our son so don't give me that crap that most "cops are trying to voilate your constitutional rights fact is alot of them are vetrans who have offered their life to protect you rights
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Not in the beginning as I see it, and the cyclist saying, "you all good" and "no" did not warrant the type of action exhibited by the LEO. After the type of stop that the LEO made, the rude, vulgar, and disrespect that LEO garnered wasn't unexpected.
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Seems to me the person in this vid and you both have a problem with authority . The fact a lawyer would even take a case to court for it being a first admendment right to flip off a police officer show how low lawyers will go for money .
My sister in law is a correction officer in one county my mother in law a retired corrections officer in another county and a friend I have known since childhood is a deputy . I know a lot of officers . for every "bad cop" there are twenty good ones just trying to make a difference In my experiance if the videographer is widely disliked there is probably a good reason for it
The officer tone was polite at the start, the videogragher was rude vulgur and disrespectful from the start which shows low class and poor upbringing. But that is common from most people who label themselves as community activist.
My sister in law is a correction officer in one county my mother in law a retired corrections officer in another county and a friend I have known since childhood is a deputy . I know a lot of officers . for every "bad cop" there are twenty good ones just trying to make a difference In my experiance if the videographer is widely disliked there is probably a good reason for it
The officer tone was polite at the start, the videogragher was rude vulgur and disrespectful from the start which shows low class and poor upbringing. But that is common from most people who label themselves as community activist.
If you dont like the constitution then work to change it. In the mean time law enforcement and the government is forced to abide by it.
Police hate transparency because they OFTEN violate the law and violate citizens constitutional protections. Police do everything in their powers to infringe upon citizens rights to free press because it risks exposing police misconduct and violations of the law.
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Certainly not unexpected from rude, vulgar and disrespectful people; especially from people who are proud and boastful about being unnecessarily rude, vulgar and disrespectful. Must help make them feel like heroic freedom fighters, just like in counter-culture comics.
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Law enforcement and their cheerleaders are generally no friend of the US Constitution.
If you dont like the constitution then work to change it. In the mean time law enforcement and the government is forced to abide by it.
Police hate transparency because they OFTEN violate the law and violate citizens constitutional protections. Police do everything in their powers to infringe upon citizens rights to free press because it risks exposing police misconduct and violations of the law.
If you dont like the constitution then work to change it. In the mean time law enforcement and the government is forced to abide by it.
Police hate transparency because they OFTEN violate the law and violate citizens constitutional protections. Police do everything in their powers to infringe upon citizens rights to free press because it risks exposing police misconduct and violations of the law.
Of course I'm in fly over country where all the hicks that work hard and are law abiding live
If you are so worried about transparency why aren't you following our elected officials around most of them are as transparent as a foot of red clay mud
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No counter culture comics involved in this particular incident, just an LEO making a poor and asinine traffic stop, setting his department up for more legal issues to deal with.
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Seems to me the person in this vid and you both have a problem with authority . The fact a lawyer would even take a case to court for it being a first admendment right to flip off a police officer show how low lawyers will go for money .
My sister in law is a correction officer in one county my mother in law a retired corrections officer in another county and a friend I have known since childhood is a deputy . I know a lot of officers . for every "bad cop" there are twenty good ones just trying to make a difference In my experiance if the videographer is widely disliked there is probably a good reason for it
The officer tone was polite at the start, the videogragher was rude vulgur and disrespectful from the start which shows low class and poor upbringing. But that is common from most people who label themselves as community activist.
It is a sad picture of our society when every bad thing shows up on on film and you never see the thousands of time officers do good .
In 1997 when I got to the car accident my 17 year old son died in, A 6'5" 240# tough as nails ex-marine state patrolman came to me . He was apoligizing and crying because he tried his best and just couldn't save our son so don't give me that crap that most "cops are trying to voilate your constitutional rights fact is alot of them are vetrans who have offered their life to protect you rights
Roy
My sister in law is a correction officer in one county my mother in law a retired corrections officer in another county and a friend I have known since childhood is a deputy . I know a lot of officers . for every "bad cop" there are twenty good ones just trying to make a difference In my experiance if the videographer is widely disliked there is probably a good reason for it
The officer tone was polite at the start, the videogragher was rude vulgur and disrespectful from the start which shows low class and poor upbringing. But that is common from most people who label themselves as community activist.
It is a sad picture of our society when every bad thing shows up on on film and you never see the thousands of time officers do good .
In 1997 when I got to the car accident my 17 year old son died in, A 6'5" 240# tough as nails ex-marine state patrolman came to me . He was apoligizing and crying because he tried his best and just couldn't save our son so don't give me that crap that most "cops are trying to voilate your constitutional rights fact is alot of them are vetrans who have offered their life to protect you rights
Roy
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I don't think very well descibes their pay my friend who is deputy has to work a lot of overtime to match what I make with very little overtime.
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The officer depicted in this video is LA County sheriffs. The average salarly for a deputy is $80,000 plus benifits. How much do you make ?
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I have never have a police officer give me a hard time that I didn't earn and even then they made sure I was aware of my rights . Outside of your baiting tactics how many officers do you interact with ? On the other hand "activist" often try to voilate my right to free speech anytime my veiw doesn't agree with what they are spewing . The vast majority of "activist" spouting off about constutional rights don't have a clue what the conitution says because they have never actually read it . People use profanity every other word because they aren't smart enough to carry on a reasonable debate in a civil manor . Are there bad cops, you bet they are. But the good ones will bust them any chance they get . You are one of the group that whine any time you get called on you actions. yet won't say thank you when you get help
Of course I'm in fly over country where all the hicks that work hard and are law abiding live
If you are so worried about transparency why aren't you following our elected officials around most of them are as transparent as a foot of red clay mud
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Of course I'm in fly over country where all the hicks that work hard and are law abiding live
If you are so worried about transparency why aren't you following our elected officials around most of them are as transparent as a foot of red clay mud
Roy
Monitoring and filming government officials in their official duties in public is not "baiting". Baiting is when certain people place bicycles next to grocery stores and sit in their cars with handcuffs and wait until someone steals it to arrest them for felonies. Baiting is when certain people get an attractive, scandtily clad woman to walk down a street at midnight and entice men to have sex for money and then arrest them and confiscate their car and sell it. Baiting is when certain people send minors into liquor stores and approach citizens minding their own business and ask them to buy alcohol for them. Baiting is when certain people drive a car to a low income neighboorhood and draw attention to it and leave the keys in the ignition and then leave and wait until someone takes it and then arrest them for a felony and make a TV show about it. Those are examples of "baiting".
Performing a vital function of goverment oversight and monitoring of public servants in public places is not baiting, its FREEDOM OF THE PRESS which is a RIGHT that police cant infringe or THEY become the criminals.
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The truth is the cop was pissed that the cyclist was filming his traffic stop. The cop retaliated by fabricating a reason to detain the cyclist and then carried it out by recklessly endangering the cyclists life by using his 4000 lb machine to force him off the road. The cop then proceeded to make up laws that dont exist and violate the cyclists 4th Amendment rights by searching him.
This is what the American Police State does to stiffle free press and transparency. The government loves to watch you but they dont tolerae citizens watching them.
This is what the American Police State does to stiffle free press and transparency. The government loves to watch you but they dont tolerae citizens watching them.
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Monitoring and filming government officials in their official duties in public is not "baiting". Baiting is when certain people place bicycles next to grocery stores and sit in their cars with handcuffs and wait until someone steals it to arrest them for felonies. Baiting is when certain people get an attractive, scandtily clad woman to walk down a street at midnight and entice men to have sex for money and then arrest them and confiscate their car and sell it. Baiting is when certain people send minors into liquor stores and approach citizens minding their own business and ask them to buy alcohol for them. Baiting is when certain people drive a car to a low income neighboorhood and draw attention to it and leave the keys in the ignition and then leave and wait until someone takes it and then arrest them for a felony and make a TV show about it. Those are examples of "baiting".
Performing a vital function of goverment oversight and monitoring of public servants in public places is not baiting, its FREEDOM OF THE PRESS which is a RIGHT that police cant infringe or THEY become the criminals.
Performing a vital function of goverment oversight and monitoring of public servants in public places is not baiting, its FREEDOM OF THE PRESS which is a RIGHT that police cant infringe or THEY become the criminals.
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Then filming a police officer in public should not be a problem for any law abiding police officer.
Why then do police resort to the tactics that they do ?
Filming a government official performing their official duties is a constitutional right.
The officer in this video broke the law and violated the cyclists constitutional rights (in addition to recklessly endangering his life).
You said the cyclist was "baiting the police officer. Baiting is defined as "An enticement; a temptation". Are you suggesting that police are predisposed to violating citizens rights and that when you dangle a videopgraher in front of them that they cant resist their temptation to violate that person ?
When police dangle a bicycle in front of citizens and the citizen steals it they go to jail.
When a videographer "baits" police, the videographer is violated.
Double standard and injustice.
Why then do police resort to the tactics that they do ?
Filming a government official performing their official duties is a constitutional right.
The officer in this video broke the law and violated the cyclists constitutional rights (in addition to recklessly endangering his life).
You said the cyclist was "baiting the police officer. Baiting is defined as "An enticement; a temptation". Are you suggesting that police are predisposed to violating citizens rights and that when you dangle a videopgraher in front of them that they cant resist their temptation to violate that person ?
When police dangle a bicycle in front of citizens and the citizen steals it they go to jail.
When a videographer "baits" police, the videographer is violated.
Double standard and injustice.
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The truth is the cop was pissed that the cyclist was filming his traffic stop. The cop retaliated by fabricating a reason to detain the cyclist and then carried it out by recklessly endangering the cyclists life by using his 4000 lb machine to force him off the road. The cop then proceeded to make up laws that dont exist and violate the cyclists 4th Amendment rights by searching him.
This is what the American Police State does to stiffle free press and transparency. The government loves to watch you but they dont tolerae citizens watching them.
This is what the American Police State does to stiffle free press and transparency. The government loves to watch you but they dont tolerae citizens watching them.
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Seems to me the person in this vid and you both have a problem with authority . The fact a lawyer would even take a case to court for it being a first admendment right to flip off a police officer show how low lawyers will go for money .
My sister in law is a correction officer in one county my mother in law a retired corrections officer in another county and a friend I have known since childhood is a deputy . I know a lot of officers . for every "bad cop" there are twenty good ones just trying to make a difference In my experiance if the videographer is widely disliked there is probably a good reason for it
The officer tone was polite at the start, the videogragher was rude vulgur and disrespectful from the start which shows low class and poor upbringing. But that is common from most people who label themselves as community activist.
It is a sad picture of our society when every bad thing shows up on on film and you never see the thousands of time officers do good .
In 1997 when I got to the car accident my 17 year old son died in, A 6'5" 240# tough as nails ex-marine state patrolman came to me . He was apoligizing and crying because he tried his best and just couldn't save our son so don't give me that crap that most "cops are trying to voilate your constitutional rights fact is alot of them are vetrans who have offered their life to protect you rights
Roy
My sister in law is a correction officer in one county my mother in law a retired corrections officer in another county and a friend I have known since childhood is a deputy . I know a lot of officers . for every "bad cop" there are twenty good ones just trying to make a difference In my experiance if the videographer is widely disliked there is probably a good reason for it
The officer tone was polite at the start, the videogragher was rude vulgur and disrespectful from the start which shows low class and poor upbringing. But that is common from most people who label themselves as community activist.
It is a sad picture of our society when every bad thing shows up on on film and you never see the thousands of time officers do good .
In 1997 when I got to the car accident my 17 year old son died in, A 6'5" 240# tough as nails ex-marine state patrolman came to me . He was apoligizing and crying because he tried his best and just couldn't save our son so don't give me that crap that most "cops are trying to voilate your constitutional rights fact is alot of them are vetrans who have offered their life to protect you rights
Roy
But cops like the one in the video, are woefully misinformed about the law. Just as lawyers need to keep up on the law, police officers, should too. So they don't go 'full steam' on a traffic stop misquoting the law in the process.
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Why did you lie about the "ramming"?
You want people to take your side but the support you are providing is incompetent (the video is terrible and incomplete). And then you lie about the circumstances.
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You need to listen to the video again, the LEO implied that the cyclist might be "high" because of the cyclist's choice in lane positioning, and the LEO was in the process of "checking" on the cyclist's well being. Whether there was an ulterior motive, in the LEO's case, for making the traffic stop, would be definite case of mind reading.
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This reminds me of the religious groups who claim holiness from being persecuted; and so they have become adept at engineering the persecution through outrageous behavour.
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"You ever hear the saying "you run into an @sshole in the morning, you ran into an @sshole. You run into @ssholes all day, you're the @sshole"
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Videographers, like religious people, have a constitutional right to be free from government infringment of free press and prohibitions of their free exercise.
In the video I posted, the police are the criminals.