Breaking chain link on some random place
04-28-22, 08:23 PM
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While everyone says it's terrible to re-use pins on a 11 speed chain, I did and I never had any issues. I got to ride my bike on a day when the bike shops weren't open so I could get another quick link or break-away pin.
Even if I did have an issue, what's it going to do? I've walked my bike home or called for a ride for other issues. Why not for my chain falling off?
Though if you can avoid doing it, I would. It is a tiny and tedious thing to get lined up correctly and not do any damage to the chain. But once done, why not just find out if the nay-sayers were correct. In my case they were wrong. I got four years on that chain with that re-used pin.
Even if I did have an issue, what's it going to do? I've walked my bike home or called for a ride for other issues. Why not for my chain falling off?
Though if you can avoid doing it, I would. It is a tiny and tedious thing to get lined up correctly and not do any damage to the chain. But once done, why not just find out if the nay-sayers were correct. In my case they were wrong. I got four years on that chain with that re-used pin.
LOL I've been a wrench since the mid '80's. I've used "fixed" pins on 10-11 speed chains when I had to without a single problem. You do have to know what your doing and use the correct tools.
Gotta love "interweb experts"...meh...I really don't care what anyone does. I'm not riding the bike or working on it...
Gotta love "interweb experts"...meh...I really don't care what anyone does. I'm not riding the bike or working on it...
04-28-22, 09:58 PM
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Topeak Droid, although the tool was renamed the “Chain Bot” after it initially came out because of Lucasfilms.
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04-29-22, 08:02 AM
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What y'all are doing is just imagining and fearing the worst. However I don't consider racking my nuts life threatening enough to even worry about. If one did, then where are all the cautions to your kids about throwing baseballs, playing tennis and many other things where such actually happens?
And though I and other kids have accidentally racked our nuts... You know what? We go over it!
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Aside from emergency repair, I can't see a good reason to do stuff the wrong way.
05-01-22, 01:06 PM
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Thanks to everyone for your advice. As I stated above, I will replace it with a master link.
This is the bike I bought and was not serviced as it should so it was super dirty. I did something wrong but when I realized that the side plate is destroyed I started googling.
Luckily, master links are cheap fix so I will use them.
This is the bike I bought and was not serviced as it should so it was super dirty. I did something wrong but when I realized that the side plate is destroyed I started googling.
Luckily, master links are cheap fix so I will use them.
05-01-22, 02:43 PM
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Thanks to everyone for your advice. As I stated above, I will replace it with a master link.
This is the bike I bought and was not serviced as it should so it was super dirty. I did something wrong but when I realized that the side plate is destroyed I started googling.
Luckily, master links are cheap fix so I will use them.
This is the bike I bought and was not serviced as it should so it was super dirty. I did something wrong but when I realized that the side plate is destroyed I started googling.
Luckily, master links are cheap fix so I will use them.
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Not "scrap." Just put a second quick-link in to replace the compromised link.
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05-01-22, 11:16 PM
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Yes, I checked it and it's less than 0.5 so I will not change it yet.
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Reusing a pin in an 8+ speed chain has an uncertain prognosis.
I’ve never set out to do it ”intentionally”. But I’ve done it several times as a trail/roadside fix. You don’t have to be far from home before attempting it is better than walking. While I carry quick links for my chain size, I don’t carry the full set. And those roadside fixes can go either way, they can fail the next mile, or last the rest of the natural life of the chain. Usually something inbetween.
I don’t know where that ”pins are peened” comes from. I do know that narrower chains use harder side plates, and reusing pins IME often result in flakes breaking off around the pin hole.
I’ve never set out to do it ”intentionally”. But I’ve done it several times as a trail/roadside fix. You don’t have to be far from home before attempting it is better than walking. While I carry quick links for my chain size, I don’t carry the full set. And those roadside fixes can go either way, they can fail the next mile, or last the rest of the natural life of the chain. Usually something inbetween.
I don’t know where that ”pins are peened” comes from. I do know that narrower chains use harder side plates, and reusing pins IME often result in flakes breaking off around the pin hole.
05-02-22, 10:01 AM
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It comes from the pins being peened.That's why they make that snapping noise when you push one out and you end up with the little rings of steel on the pin of your chain tool.
05-02-22, 04:00 PM
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For high end chain, pins are riveted with capping to sustain more sideways force during gear change. For this type of chain, pin can not be reused. To reconnecting chain, special pin with guide or special quick connecting link designated by chain makers has to be used.
For a regular non-capping riveted chain where reusing pin is not prohibited, after applying the lubricant, using the chain tool to reconnect the chain, bent the chain sideways back and forth for few times to make sure that there is no tight link at this connecting point.
For a regular non-capping riveted chain where reusing pin is not prohibited, after applying the lubricant, using the chain tool to reconnect the chain, bent the chain sideways back and forth for few times to make sure that there is no tight link at this connecting point.
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No different than "I've smoked crack for 30 years and nothing bad has ever happened, so crack must be good for you".
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I can read the word. But I don't se the evidence on the chains that I use.
But I stop at 10-speed, usually KMC chains.
I don't get or have any little rings of steel on the pin of my chain tool. I checked before posting.
I do often get a snapping noise. And I see flakes breaking off from around the hole in the side plate. Never noticed rings breaking off from the pins though.
But I stop at 10-speed, usually KMC chains.
I do often get a snapping noise. And I see flakes breaking off from around the hole in the side plate. Never noticed rings breaking off from the pins though.
05-04-22, 08:46 AM
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I don't get or have any little rings of steel on the pin of my chain tool. I checked before posting.
I do often get a snapping noise. And I see flakes breaking off from around the hole in the side plate. Never noticed rings breaking off from the pins though.
I do often get a snapping noise. And I see flakes breaking off from around the hole in the side plate. Never noticed rings breaking off from the pins though.
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I did it all the time with 8 speed because I was used to doing it on 6 and 7 speed and didn't know technology had changed. I never had a problem, but then again I weighed all of 125 lb back then. I'd rather be more safe now that I have grown up and out.
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