Here’s a nice green Mercian from 1978
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Here’s a nice green Mercian from 1978
I’m never one to leave a frame like this languishing on Craigslist if the price is right. Drove about half an hour into the suburbs to meet a very nice gentleman who had this to sell. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a Mercian for sale around here so I was glad he still had it when I showed up. Feel free to take a stab as to which model this is if you’d like, both I and the seller are uncertain. Top tube has some surface rust spots that need to be addressed but no dents or cracks anywhere. Frame came complete with a Campagnolo seat binder bolt and a Tange headset with Campagnolo lock nut. I believe it should have had a Mercian lock nut. Oh well, I’ll figure it out. Anyway, after looking the frame over I decided I’d purchase it. He had a few other parts to sell me too but nothing like a complete build. A set of Campy brake calipers and some Campy levers attached to Forte handlebars and a Cinelli stem. After I left his house I picked up a Brooks Pro from another seller to add to the build. The saddle is still quite hard and needs some breaking in. I’ve also got a well used but comfortable B17 in honey I may opt for instead and use the Pro elsewhere. I’m pretty excited about this frame!
Presenting the 605th frame of 1978 (if I’m understanding the serial number correctly) plus the rest of todays haul.
These pieces, along with the Campagnolo parts from a too small for me 1972 Raleigh International, should make for a serviceable build but I’ve also got these Suntour Cyclone derailleurs and Power shift levers along with a 14/34 six speed Suntour Perfect freewheel I could use instead, it’s rather heavy. These are parts I had been saving for a new build on my other International from 75 that fits me, this may be a better place to put those parts. I’ve got some decisions to make. I’ve also got a completely original 1975 Raleigh Competition with a bent frame that I could use the parts from (Huret Jubile derailleurs and Normandy Luxe Competition hubs and such).
When it comes to wheels I’ve got a couple of choices: A set of 32 hole Campagnolo small flange hubs laced to Mavic G-40 gray clincher rims that came to me with a Regina CX-S 7 speed freewheel.
I need to clean these wheels and refresh the grease but both are spinning beautifully.
Or, I could switch the above wheels with the set that’s currently on my nice fitting International which are Campagnolo 36 hole high flange Tipo with kidney bean cutouts (circa 1972/73 Motobecane) with plain silver color box clincher rims.
These wheels need cleaned but have freshly packed bearings already.
Or, I could use Normandy Luxe Competition wheels from the bent Raleigh Competition. 36 hole silver box tubulars. I would need to glue on some new tires because the 25mm Continental Gatorskins are just not nice enough. I do love riding tubulars.
Maybe not the best wheel choices for touring but they’re what I’ve got for now. I’ve got a couple of other options in parts but I’ve got too many other wheels to build and won’t get around to building a set for this project anytime soon. One of these will have to do.
As for the crankset, I have the Campy set from the International 53/42 or Stronglight 93 52/42 either of which will work for now here in flat Minnesota, but I really need to buy a triple for either the International or the Mercian, whichever gets the Suntour setup. I’d like to do some traveling. Any build suggestions are certainly welcome.
Presenting the 605th frame of 1978 (if I’m understanding the serial number correctly) plus the rest of todays haul.
These pieces, along with the Campagnolo parts from a too small for me 1972 Raleigh International, should make for a serviceable build but I’ve also got these Suntour Cyclone derailleurs and Power shift levers along with a 14/34 six speed Suntour Perfect freewheel I could use instead, it’s rather heavy. These are parts I had been saving for a new build on my other International from 75 that fits me, this may be a better place to put those parts. I’ve got some decisions to make. I’ve also got a completely original 1975 Raleigh Competition with a bent frame that I could use the parts from (Huret Jubile derailleurs and Normandy Luxe Competition hubs and such).
When it comes to wheels I’ve got a couple of choices: A set of 32 hole Campagnolo small flange hubs laced to Mavic G-40 gray clincher rims that came to me with a Regina CX-S 7 speed freewheel.
I need to clean these wheels and refresh the grease but both are spinning beautifully.
Or, I could switch the above wheels with the set that’s currently on my nice fitting International which are Campagnolo 36 hole high flange Tipo with kidney bean cutouts (circa 1972/73 Motobecane) with plain silver color box clincher rims.
These wheels need cleaned but have freshly packed bearings already.
Or, I could use Normandy Luxe Competition wheels from the bent Raleigh Competition. 36 hole silver box tubulars. I would need to glue on some new tires because the 25mm Continental Gatorskins are just not nice enough. I do love riding tubulars.
Maybe not the best wheel choices for touring but they’re what I’ve got for now. I’ve got a couple of other options in parts but I’ve got too many other wheels to build and won’t get around to building a set for this project anytime soon. One of these will have to do.
As for the crankset, I have the Campy set from the International 53/42 or Stronglight 93 52/42 either of which will work for now here in flat Minnesota, but I really need to buy a triple for either the International or the Mercian, whichever gets the Suntour setup. I’d like to do some traveling. Any build suggestions are certainly welcome.
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Here are a couple quick pics of the wheel choices. Sorry about the poor photo quality but my place is very dim and it’s too dark outside for good photography.
Campagnolo Record
Normandy Luxe Competition
Campagnolo Tipo
Campagnolo Record
Normandy Luxe Competition
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Love that green! That’s going to look great.
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appears to be the Olympic model
lug pattern Prugnat 62/d
fork crown Vagner Nr. 12 ref +
bottom bracket shell BOCAMA
the wraparound seat stay plug is a solid piece of steel about two inches in length on either side
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appears to be the Olympic model
lug pattern Prugnat 62/d
fork crown Vagner Nr. 12 ref +
bottom bracket shell BOCAMA
the wraparound seat stay plug is a solid piece of steel about two inches in length on either side
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I’m never one to leave a frame like this languishing on Craigslist if the price is right. Drove about half an hour into the suburbs to meet a very nice gentleman who had this to sell. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a Mercian for sale around here so I was glad he still had it when I showed up. Feel free to take a stab as to which model this is if you’d like, both I and the seller are uncertain. Top tube has some surface rust spots that need to addressed but no dents or cracks anywhere. Frame came complete with a Campagnolo seat binder bolt and a Tange headset with Campagnolo lock nut. I believe it should have had a Mercian lock nut. Oh well, I’ll figure it out. Anyway, after looking the frame over I decided I’d purchase it. He had a few other parts to sell me too but nothing like a complete build. A set of Campy brake calipers and some Campy levers attached to Forte handlebars and a Cinelli stem. After I left his house I picked up a Brooks Pro from another seller to add to the build. The saddle is still quite hard and needs some breaking in. I’ve also got a well used but comfortable B17 in honey I may opt for instead and use the Pro elsewhere. I’m pretty excited about this frame!
Presenting the 605th frame of 1978 (if I’m understanding the serial number correctly) plus the rest of todays haul.
These pieces, along with the Campagnolo parts from a too small for me 1972 Raleigh International, should make for a serviceable build but I’ve also got these Suntour Cyclone derailleurs and Power shift levers along with a 14/34 six speed Suntour Perfect freewheel I could use instead, it’s rather heavy. These are parts I had been saving for a new build on my other International from 75 that fits me, this may be a better place to put those parts. I’ve got some decisions to make. I’ve also got a completely original 1975 Raleigh Competition with a bent frame that I could use the parts from (Huret Jubile derailleurs and Normandy Luxe Competition hubs and such).
When it comes to wheels I’ve got a couple of choices: A set of 32 hole Campagnolo small flange hubs laced to Mavic G-40 gray clincher rims that came to me with this Regina CX-S 7 speed freewheel.
I need to clean these wheels and refresh the grease but both are spinning beautifully.
Or, I could switch the above wheels with the set that’s currently on my nice fitting International which are Campagnolo 36 hole high flange Tipo with kidney bean cutouts (circa 1972/73 Motobecane) with plain silver color box clincher rims.
These wheels need cleaned but have freshly packed bearings already.
Or, I could use Normandy Luxe Competition wheels from the bent Raleigh Competition. 36 hole silver box tubulars. I would need to glue on some new tires because the 25mm Continental Gatorskins are just not nice enough. I do love riding tubulars.
Maybe not the best wheel choices for touring but they’re what I’ve got for now. I’ve got a couple of other options in parts but I’ve got too many other wheels to build and won’t get around to building a set for this project anytime soon. One of these will have to do.
As for the crankset, I have the Campy set from the International 53/42 or Stronglight 93 52/42 either of which will work for now here in flat Minnesota, but I really need to buy a triple for either the International or the Mercian, whichever gets the Suntour setup. I’d like to do some traveling. Any build suggestions are certainly welcome.
Presenting the 605th frame of 1978 (if I’m understanding the serial number correctly) plus the rest of todays haul.
These pieces, along with the Campagnolo parts from a too small for me 1972 Raleigh International, should make for a serviceable build but I’ve also got these Suntour Cyclone derailleurs and Power shift levers along with a 14/34 six speed Suntour Perfect freewheel I could use instead, it’s rather heavy. These are parts I had been saving for a new build on my other International from 75 that fits me, this may be a better place to put those parts. I’ve got some decisions to make. I’ve also got a completely original 1975 Raleigh Competition with a bent frame that I could use the parts from (Huret Jubile derailleurs and Normandy Luxe Competition hubs and such).
When it comes to wheels I’ve got a couple of choices: A set of 32 hole Campagnolo small flange hubs laced to Mavic G-40 gray clincher rims that came to me with this Regina CX-S 7 speed freewheel.
I need to clean these wheels and refresh the grease but both are spinning beautifully.
Or, I could switch the above wheels with the set that’s currently on my nice fitting International which are Campagnolo 36 hole high flange Tipo with kidney bean cutouts (circa 1972/73 Motobecane) with plain silver color box clincher rims.
These wheels need cleaned but have freshly packed bearings already.
Or, I could use Normandy Luxe Competition wheels from the bent Raleigh Competition. 36 hole silver box tubulars. I would need to glue on some new tires because the 25mm Continental Gatorskins are just not nice enough. I do love riding tubulars.
Maybe not the best wheel choices for touring but they’re what I’ve got for now. I’ve got a couple of other options in parts but I’ve got too many other wheels to build and won’t get around to building a set for this project anytime soon. One of these will have to do.
As for the crankset, I have the Campy set from the International 53/42 or Stronglight 93 52/42 either of which will work for now here in flat Minnesota, but I really need to buy a triple for either the International or the Mercian, whichever gets the Suntour setup. I’d like to do some traveling. Any build suggestions are certainly welcome.
Love the green! I have a Vincitore that color. Great bike. Have fun setting that one up!
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It is INDEED the 605th bike built in 1978, and if you can find someone who knows, the 8 stamped separately is the frame builder's number. In that time frame George Bryan was no. 6, Derek Land was no. 5.
LOVELY bike.
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Thanks for this info. I’ll try and figure out who number 8 was.
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Very cool bike! A bit of Mercian activity on the forums is lighting the fire under my bum to finish my 83 for the spring.
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the chainstays are an interesting feature
they appear to be rapier pattern yet are dimpled slightly on the inside for tyre clearance
"usually" with rapier chainstays there are no dimples
perhaps this was a request to permit the owner to run 38c tyres
note the minor damage to the outside of the drive side stay
this likely from one or more derailments where the chain got wedged betwixt chainwheel and stay...
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the chainstays are an interesting feature
they appear to be rapier pattern yet are dimpled slightly on the inside for tyre clearance
"usually" with rapier chainstays there are no dimples
perhaps this was a request to permit the owner to run 38c tyres
note the minor damage to the outside of the drive side stay
this likely from one or more derailments where the chain got wedged betwixt chainwheel and stay...
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Great find. I can't imagine it would languish on CL but good on you for picking it up. I love the color and I think it is good enough to leave as is if the small rust issues are addressed . There is quite a presence of Mercian on this forum for any help you may need when you build it up. To me it looks straight forward. As far as wheels and hubs , I have always loved HF Campy Records but the choice is yours . The seat is the same situation , I am a fan of the Brooks Pro but the B17 is very comfy as well. I just put a B17 on the Moto I built. The beauty of a frame is that it is like a blank canvas just waiting for creativity, Joe
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Nice find, how much was it?
From the head tube lugs it looks like a Professional model but not sure at all.
The wrap around seat stays are not very common on Mercians.
I did find this one that matches yours but it does not say what model it is:
https://bikeindex.org/bikes/52209
From the head tube lugs it looks like a Professional model but not sure at all.
The wrap around seat stays are not very common on Mercians.
I did find this one that matches yours but it does not say what model it is:
https://bikeindex.org/bikes/52209
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Nice find, how much was it?
From the head tube lugs it looks like a Professional model but not sure at all.
The wrap around seat stays are not very common on Mercians.
I did find this one that matches yours but it does not say what model it is:
https://bikeindex.org/bikes/52209
From the head tube lugs it looks like a Professional model but not sure at all.
The wrap around seat stays are not very common on Mercians.
I did find this one that matches yours but it does not say what model it is:
https://bikeindex.org/bikes/52209
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Yeah, right now I’m kind of leaning toward the high flange 36 hole Tipo wheels. I think they look better than the the low flange Record hubs and the clincher rims will be better for touring, if I decide to go that route, than the tubular Normandy wheels. I tend to get a lot of flat tires from thorns and glass.
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Yes that one does look very similar, too bad it’s not identified by model. Wrap around seat stays on British bikes are are a feature I enjoy, they’re not a requirement for me but I look for them. Since your asking, I paid $150 for the frame plus another $50 for the goodies that came with it.
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Yes that one does look very similar, too bad it’s not identified by model. Wrap around seat stays on British bikes are are a feature I enjoy, they’re not a requirement for me but I look for them. Since your asking, I paid $150 for the frame plus another $50 for the goodies that came with it.
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I couldn’t believe the price either when I saw it listed. I don’t think the ad had been up longer than a few minutes when I sent my email. He responded right away and the next morning I drove out there. The seller and his wife were not even completely moved into their new home yet, I think he was just trying to move some stuff along quickly.