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05-28-21, 04:53 PM
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Take it to the local bike shop and see about that carbon guarantee. Regardless, I would have the carbon parts scanned at a carbon repair shop.
Oh, and I always use flashing lights front and back during the day. Steady at night, though I rarely ride at night.
Oh, and I always use flashing lights front and back during the day. Steady at night, though I rarely ride at night.
05-29-21, 07:10 AM
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I don't understand how so many people can be making such specific recommendations with so little information! Especially since many of the recommendations are for legal representation and such -- which is not the subject of the OP's question.
Unless I've missed something in this thread, the "get a lawyer!" posters don't know whether the motorcyclist was issued a ticket, admitted fault, handed over insurance info, or offered to pay for damages. They also don't seem to realize that most good attorneys would be hesitant to take a case over a $2600 bicycle. They also don't acknowledge that an attorney would either bill by the hour or would work on contingency -- which would mean a fee of 1/3rd of any settlement; either would cost the OP a significant share of the bike's value.
I'm not saying that the OP should or shouldn't hire an attorney...I'm saying there are too many unknowns to draw such conclusions. Especially when post #36 may make it all moot.
Unless I've missed something in this thread, the "get a lawyer!" posters don't know whether the motorcyclist was issued a ticket, admitted fault, handed over insurance info, or offered to pay for damages. They also don't seem to realize that most good attorneys would be hesitant to take a case over a $2600 bicycle. They also don't acknowledge that an attorney would either bill by the hour or would work on contingency -- which would mean a fee of 1/3rd of any settlement; either would cost the OP a significant share of the bike's value.
I'm not saying that the OP should or shouldn't hire an attorney...I'm saying there are too many unknowns to draw such conclusions. Especially when post #36 may make it all moot.
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05-29-21, 12:10 PM
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Ahhh yes I should always be wearing dark glass because it is my fault that someone is a roving discotheque lighting circus. I don't generally wear super dark glasses and even still I shouldn't have to wear them to avoid a circus.
It is one thing to strobe/flash in an emergency situation but just doing it in normal riding isn't good.
05-29-21, 03:08 PM
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I’m not worried about cell phone users who are coming from the other direction. I’d rather just exercise more caution dealing with oncoming cars than having to look away and shield my eyes from oncoming cyclists with extremely bright flashing headlights. Flashing red light on the back of the bike? Absolutely.
Why no dark glasses? Because I prefer natural light. I just don’t wear them. Especially after dark when flashing headlights are even more dangerous.
Why no dark glasses? Because I prefer natural light. I just don’t wear them. Especially after dark when flashing headlights are even more dangerous.
05-29-21, 03:10 PM
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If they are driving and on the cell phone they are distracted and choosing to drive like that, If they aren't going to pay attention to the road normally, they don't have plans to pay attention to your strobe if they won't pay attention to a normal light like normal humans use. Also if they do notice your flashing light who is to say they aren't just going to go towards it?
Ahhh yes I should always be wearing dark glass because it is my fault that someone is a roving discotheque lighting circus. I don't generally wear super dark glasses and even still I shouldn't have to wear them to avoid a circus.
It is one thing to strobe/flash in an emergency situation but just doing it in normal riding isn't good.
Ahhh yes I should always be wearing dark glass because it is my fault that someone is a roving discotheque lighting circus. I don't generally wear super dark glasses and even still I shouldn't have to wear them to avoid a circus.
It is one thing to strobe/flash in an emergency situation but just doing it in normal riding isn't good.
05-29-21, 03:24 PM
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It's not wrong of you to ask for a new bike. In fact, you should insist on getting a new bike.
Bring your bike back to the LBS and have them check it out, and ask them to write something along the line that the frame has been compromised in such a collision (a very reasonable assumption considerng that a carbon road frame can sustain a crack with a simple fall over). No LBS will risk anything to their customer by saying "the frame is 100% like it was new". Why would any LBS even risk saying such thing when it's in their interest to serve their customers?
And if you were to email Giant say told them that your frame has been in such an accident, and ask them would the warranty still hold, Giant would most likely say NO.
For the insurance company, a bike is a SMALL write-off. Anything write-off under $20k is pretty much automatic, meaning they won't even think about it, the underwriter aint even gonna bother investigation such a small claim.
Bring your bike back to the LBS and have them check it out, and ask them to write something along the line that the frame has been compromised in such a collision (a very reasonable assumption considerng that a carbon road frame can sustain a crack with a simple fall over). No LBS will risk anything to their customer by saying "the frame is 100% like it was new". Why would any LBS even risk saying such thing when it's in their interest to serve their customers?
And if you were to email Giant say told them that your frame has been in such an accident, and ask them would the warranty still hold, Giant would most likely say NO.
For the insurance company, a bike is a SMALL write-off. Anything write-off under $20k is pretty much automatic, meaning they won't even think about it, the underwriter aint even gonna bother investigation such a small claim.
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05-29-21, 05:40 PM
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I took the bike back to the bike shop, they said they couldn't see any damage, I'm going to stick to my guns about wanting a new bike. With my luck the frame would snap exactly after the two year warranty.
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05-29-21, 06:11 PM
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It's not wrong of you to ask for a new bike. In fact, you should insist on getting a new bike.
Bring your bike back to the LBS and have them check it out, and ask them to write something along the line that the frame has been compromised in such a collision (a very reasonable assumption considerng that a carbon road frame can sustain a crack with a simple fall over). No LBS will risk anything to their customer by saying "the frame is 100% like it was new". Why would any LBS even risk saying such thing when it's in their interest to serve their customers?
And if you were to email Giant say told them that your frame has been in such an accident, and ask them would the warranty still hold, Giant would most likely say NO.
For the insurance company, a bike is a SMALL write-off. Anything write-off under $20k is pretty much automatic, meaning they won't even think about it, the underwriter aint even gonna bother investigation such a small claim.
Bring your bike back to the LBS and have them check it out, and ask them to write something along the line that the frame has been compromised in such a collision (a very reasonable assumption considerng that a carbon road frame can sustain a crack with a simple fall over). No LBS will risk anything to their customer by saying "the frame is 100% like it was new". Why would any LBS even risk saying such thing when it's in their interest to serve their customers?
And if you were to email Giant say told them that your frame has been in such an accident, and ask them would the warranty still hold, Giant would most likely say NO.
For the insurance company, a bike is a SMALL write-off. Anything write-off under $20k is pretty much automatic, meaning they won't even think about it, the underwriter aint even gonna bother investigation such a small claim.
05-29-21, 06:13 PM
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05-29-21, 06:44 PM
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Please, let's not talk about any details of the accident.
https://www.bikeforums.net/advocacy-...bers-read.html
https://www.bikeforums.net/advocacy-...bers-read.html
We all pitched in to replace some parts that were cosmetically damaged, and I think someone looked over the frame and didn't find any . He's still riding the bike. 'Course, if he had checked with bf, he would've been too terrified of a cf assplosion to ever again even ride that bike around the block.
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05-30-21, 07:54 AM
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https://www.velominati.com/
RULES were raised in another thread and I, too, asked HUH! That link was provided. Now, that might not be what this poster was referring to....
05-30-21, 08:06 AM
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... this is an interesting post because it distorts what the search for the truth is all about. If you get hurt and tell your friends about it, no harm can come from telling your friends (or anyone else) the truth. Regardless of legal issues or lawyer issues the TRUTH is the standard. Lawyers who instruct clients to distort the truth or veil the truth with half lies should not be rewarded or championed. Likewise these same lawyers should not distort the facts to secure more than a "fair" result. I may be pollyanna about this and Ole Tom's point may be well taken by the cynical but people who seek gain by hiding in the crevices of legal shenanigans don't deserve to be rewarded. I think it would be better to say that when one posts an anecdotal experience, that person should bear in mind that there can be consequences for exaggerations and outright lies. Lawyers who mine the internet could just as easily find positivity in honest and forthright post and this should not be discounted. In the OPs case if he reiterates the same story that he will have to tell the LBS and others no possible harm would occur AND there would be the subjective benefit conveyed to all that he had consistently AND WITHOUT HIDING ANYTHING had from the start given an honest accounting
........................... No disrespect to BF's T memories is intended
........................... No disrespect to BF's T memories is intended"Anything you say can and will be used against you."
05-30-21, 09:22 AM
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6 trikes is the same as an 18-wheeler.
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05-30-21, 10:20 AM
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about wanting a new bike. With my luck the frame would snap exactly after the two year warranty.
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05-30-21, 10:25 AM
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[QUOTE=Paul Barnard;22081224]Curious lane positioning by a guy wearing asphalt colored clothing and burning a light for better visibility.[/QUOTE The black jersey was my uniform for a cross country ride sponsored by 42 Below vodka. I ride close to the traffic lane so that I am perceived as an obstacle to motorists. I ride with a mirror so that if a driver is over the line I can move over. I have found that if I cross into the traffic lane most drivers will move over. If not then I move back.