Spaghetti Legs 

For a 100% dirt/gravel ride I like the Gravel Kings also. My experience jibes with rccardr in that they mount up a little skinner than advertised on a vintage rim. My 28’s always come out as 26. Since most of my rides on gravel involve some pavement too, I tend to go with Vittoria Open Pave, 25 and 27 mm and Challenge, I think it’s the more expensive 300 tpi Strada Bianca which comes in a 30 mm. The Gravel Kings handle just fine on pavement but I like the others better for zipping down fast descents. Vittoria also makes a gravel specific tire, the Tirreno which comes in a variable knobby pattern, including the Zero which is nearly smooth. I like those too, have the Zero and the Dry.

Edit, also Nick, keep an eye on the brake bridge as IME with vintage bikes will limit tire clearance sometimes more than the chainstays.

squirtdad

I think I donated 3 tubes to that cause that was day one. no flats day 2

Wildwood 

I know it is 3 months til Cino, but I am coming upon a decision point.
edit: Cancel this request. 4/28/23
Is anyone from the Puget Sound attending Cino who could ferry a bike to & fro'? I'm a few miles south of Issaquah.

The bike will be for a friend from Houston (with a Bozeman timeshare), who is trying to make the adventure easy by putting the bike duty on me. I'm going by train and was told only one oversized box per customer - and on 'Empire Builder' route, no storage car allowing fully assembled bikes.




I told him that in the Spirit of the Event (even tho' i only believe in alcoholic spirits) he needed a vintage gravelish ride for the Montana timeshare. Even space there for a zero bike! Is there no Spirit in Houston's older men?

mountaindave 

Another bump! We got to get to 50 riders by Friday for this to happen! That’s only three more riders as of this morning. I see @nlerner signed up this week! Woohoo!

bikingshearer 

I received the e-mail below this evening from Cino Central, which I think postdates Dave's post. I, for one, am excited and a little nervous.

Hi Cino Riders,

First, thank you all for registering for this year's Cino ride. We are delighted to have so many dedicated riders and supporters near and far.

Cino 2023 is happening!


As you know, this is a fundraising event for Kalispell Montessori's scholarship fund. With that in mind, we set a minimum number of 55 riders to make this year's event a success. We didn't quite reach our goal by our deadline, but we are just shy (48 riders) of the goal and continue to hope that we can pick up a few more participants in the final weeks before the ride. We are deeply touched by the many offers to pass the proverbial hat to make this year's ride a go - thank you for your spirit of generosity! Trust that there will be more opportunities to help us meet our fundraising goals.

We will be sending more information as the date gets closer, but those of you who are joining us from out of town, please let us know how we can help with logistics, accommodations, or anything else you need. We know it is neither easy nor inexpensive to get to the Flathead valley in the middle of summer and we're happy to do what we can to make it as easy as possible.

We would love to have more riders, so please continue to spread the word and share our website with any prospective riders. For local riders, if any of your friends or family members would like to volunteer, let us know and we'll connect you with a fun(ish) job that suits your skills and desires.

Looking forward to seeing you all in just over a month!

With gratitude,
Team Cino

mountaindave 

Yup, we’re officially on - thanks guys!!

rccardr 

Just to whet yer appetite, some pics from Cinos past:
P8297389 by Doc Mertes, on Flickr
P8297372 by Doc Mertes, on Flickr
P8287351 by Doc Mertes, on Flickr
P8287264 by Doc Mertes, on Flickr

rccardr 

squirtdad

this means
1) yay
2) will be in garage taking off the durace 53/39 and put ing on 105 52/42/30 crankset.....need all the help I can get
3) Officially panicking about fitness. got to do more

gugie 

I thought the official time to do this was in the Kalispell Montessori school parking lot right before a hailstorm?

rccardr 

Jim, if you’re really concerned about getting up some of the climbs, I’d strongly suggest you find a smaller 74bcd granny, like a 24. And a 34 big bail out cog.
Would give you the ability to spin more at a slower pace.

squirtdad

Thanks Doc, will look for the granny,

what gugie showed was me adding a 34 bailout and deore derailler in the parking lot (think it was 34, have to check 32 at least ) at cino 2021

bikemig 

Which bike are you taking? If it's a short wheeled racing bike (I know you like your team miyata which happens to be one of my favorite bikes as well), a triple is a PITA because of the short chain stays. Alternatively you can run a 110 bcd triple but use only the outside positions. You can run a 50/34 (or a 48/34) and a bigger freewheel in the rear to get better climbing gears. Mechanically you may find this easier to set up.

I'm not doing the ride (though I'm sorely tempted) but I would run a compact double if I were.

squirtdad

Yep 84 team miyata
thanks for ideas

I did set up for triple for cino 2021....still did dnf bit of franken set up rx100 front derailer and deore xt rear. I am putting a nicer look triple on this time around. I think key was right BB

I did try a triplelizer so I could use the beautiful dura ace crankset but that did not work at all

rccardr 

Miguel makes a great suggestion (I’m running a 48/28 with a 12-34 myself this year) but even more important, Jim, is to put your bike together and ride it for a week before heading out to Cino. That way you know how well it works, what foibles it may have, if any, etc.

No more pre-hailstorm wrenching sessions!

squirtdad

yes no more last minute fixes.... part of the fun is that it has a UG cassette. I have a 32 on there now so if I can make a 24 granny work should be in better shape

so will sort bike out, probably more than once,, but more importantly will get every bit of riding I can in between now and then....

bikingshearer 

squirtdad: Since I will be there, you will likely have company, assuming you are not leaving me in your dust. Just ask gugie or Spaghetti Legs or nlerner or rccardr or davester or anyone else who was on Tourica 2023 in April; they can vouch for my gruppetto tendancies.

mountaindave 

Amen to that!! It took a good month to get my rear window replaced and people are still getting roofs replaced around here (had to take a break through winter).

SwimmerMike 

Hey Jim -

I bought an old Fisher Mountain bike (actually 2) that I was planning to use some parts off of (or just use) when my wife and I were planning on doing Cino (timing didn't line up for this year). If you want, I can check what I have on them, I know they both have Deer Head, but I don't remember the cranks/chainrings. You're more than free to borrow anything off of them you may want.

Mike

gugie 

I used a 24t chainring with a 32t bail out cog going up Cypress at Eroica Cali. It got me to the top without pushing, but that's just about stall speed, and I did fall off my bike at 1mph after my front wheel caught a sand bog. I was barely passing the walkers at that point, knowing that I always had my two foot gear if I got to their speed.

majmt 

FWIW, I've had very good luck with a Deer Head FD shifting over a DA 1st gen crank with a TA triplizer for a 52-39-30 spread. Doubt there'd be a problem going on down to a 24.

squirtdad

bikingshearer we can be mutual support and if need be share the rouge lantern award
SwimmerMike will contact you once I sort through what I have thanks
@guigie have a 24 ring on order will sort out the rest

meanwhile, part of the ride a lot plan, includes commuting (5 miles in, 12 miles back including a gravel section) and being late for a meeting encourages hard ride in

gugie 

Your total commute mileage is almost exactly as mine!
As I get closer to a big ride like Cino, once a week I add in a "long way home" commute when the days are longer. I'll do that tonight. Throw in an Old La Honda on the weekends and you'll be ready.

Andy_K 

Perhaps you aren't aware of my credentials in the lanterne rouge competition. I don't have anything official for gravel rides, but I will offer my cyclocross results as a stand-in: https://www.crossresults.com/racer/17721 The guy who runs the site has confirmed that I have finished behind more people in CX races than anyone on their site (which is pretty much everyone). My total currently stands at 11904. For comparison, Wout Van Aert has finished ahead of a mere 9233 people in his racing career.

I heard that one person finished behind me at Eroica California last year, but I'm honestly not sure how that happened. They must have walked the entire course or something. On top of that, I'm coming off an injury and have only ridden my bike twice in the past six weeks.

So, yeah, I'm throwing down the gauntlet for the lanterne rouge. It's going to take some serious slowness to finish behind me.

bikingshearer 

Does this mean that, if all three of us ride together, we will be our own rolling Red Light District?