Auburn Cord Duesenberg Bicycle Show
08-28-22, 09:32 PM
#76
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Madison, WI USA
Posts: 6,153
Mentioned: 50 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2362 Post(s)
Liked 1,749 Times
in
1,191 Posts
Seems to me you are making a lot of assumptions of what was shown and what people do with their bikes. Sometimes you can enjoy a ride as is and don't have to "optimize" it as a "rider". Experiencing a janky old derailleur isn't isn't worse than a whatever you think is "best for a rider". You are creating a false dichotomy.
08-28-22, 11:00 PM
#77
If I own it, I ride it
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Cardinal Country
Posts: 5,580
Bikes: Lejeune(14), Raleigh, Raysport, Jan De Reus, Gazelle, Masi, B. Carré(4), Springfield, Greg Lemond, Andre Bertin, Schwinn Paramount
Mentioned: 56 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 591 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 662 Times
in
311 Posts
that Confente is interesting.
when built is was painted and transferred as a LeJeune.
the paint, transfers, were dreadful. It was under duress true enough, the headtube was dark blue and those old silver paper stars were glued to the headtube - the kind a grade school teacher might affix to a well done paper or worksheet. Clear over that.
this was part of the reason Mario was looking for a different painter after he was locked out.
at some point the bikes were repainted updating the American theme. They look pretty good.
Boyer might have used one in a Colorado stage race later.
one was purchased by the late Dr Hollenberg - not sure if he sold it on or his heirs.
when built is was painted and transferred as a LeJeune.
the paint, transfers, were dreadful. It was under duress true enough, the headtube was dark blue and those old silver paper stars were glued to the headtube - the kind a grade school teacher might affix to a well done paper or worksheet. Clear over that.
this was part of the reason Mario was looking for a different painter after he was locked out.
at some point the bikes were repainted updating the American theme. They look pretty good.
Boyer might have used one in a Colorado stage race later.
one was purchased by the late Dr Hollenberg - not sure if he sold it on or his heirs.
Ultimately Jim Cunningham did Mario's paint.
A Confente frame was indeed used by Boyer in the Red Zinger Classic. Pic below is scanned from Red Zinger Bicycle Classic booklet. Kind of crappy scan but I did not want to mangle the publication. I believe you can still make out the Confente markings on the seat tube They are more visible in the booklet. It cannot be said for certain that these frames are one and the same.
UPDATE: Looking at cb400bill 's photos of the bike, I think it can be said the frame in the pics I shared is the same frame.
Photo below is a crop from a larger photo from Denver Post
Last edited by CV-6; 08-29-22 at 08:04 AM.
08-29-22, 06:55 AM
#78
Forum Moderator
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Kalamazoo MI
Posts: 20,645
Bikes: Fuji SL2.1 Carbon Di2 Cannondale Synapse Alloy 4 Trek Checkpoint ALR-5 Viscount Aerospace Pro Colnago Classic Rabobank Schwinn Waterford PMount Raleigh C50 Cromoly Hybrid Legnano Tipo Roma Pista
Mentioned: 58 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3089 Post(s)
Liked 6,587 Times
in
3,777 Posts
What. A. Show.
So many beautiful bikes on display. Brands I’d not seen in person before. Brands I’d not heard of before.
Had a wonderful chat with our very own Doug Fattic. Also had a great time talking to Mark Nobilette as he showed me all the little details of his display bikes. I also had the pleasure to talk to Bianchigirl.
The swap meet outside and inside was very good with lots of components and bikes available, both used and NOS. It was a good thing Mrs 400 was with me to keep my spending to a minimum.
Here are some pics.
So many beautiful bikes on display. Brands I’d not seen in person before. Brands I’d not heard of before.
Had a wonderful chat with our very own Doug Fattic. Also had a great time talking to Mark Nobilette as he showed me all the little details of his display bikes. I also had the pleasure to talk to Bianchigirl.
The swap meet outside and inside was very good with lots of components and bikes available, both used and NOS. It was a good thing Mrs 400 was with me to keep my spending to a minimum.
Here are some pics.
__________________
Last edited by cb400bill; 08-29-22 at 07:01 AM.
Likes For cb400bill:
08-29-22, 06:57 AM
#79
Forum Moderator
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Kalamazoo MI
Posts: 20,645
Bikes: Fuji SL2.1 Carbon Di2 Cannondale Synapse Alloy 4 Trek Checkpoint ALR-5 Viscount Aerospace Pro Colnago Classic Rabobank Schwinn Waterford PMount Raleigh C50 Cromoly Hybrid Legnano Tipo Roma Pista
Mentioned: 58 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3089 Post(s)
Liked 6,587 Times
in
3,777 Posts
__________________
Likes For cb400bill:
08-29-22, 07:03 AM
#80
Forum Moderator
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Kalamazoo MI
Posts: 20,645
Bikes: Fuji SL2.1 Carbon Di2 Cannondale Synapse Alloy 4 Trek Checkpoint ALR-5 Viscount Aerospace Pro Colnago Classic Rabobank Schwinn Waterford PMount Raleigh C50 Cromoly Hybrid Legnano Tipo Roma Pista
Mentioned: 58 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3089 Post(s)
Liked 6,587 Times
in
3,777 Posts
__________________
Likes For cb400bill:
08-29-22, 07:05 AM
#81
Forum Moderator
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Kalamazoo MI
Posts: 20,645
Bikes: Fuji SL2.1 Carbon Di2 Cannondale Synapse Alloy 4 Trek Checkpoint ALR-5 Viscount Aerospace Pro Colnago Classic Rabobank Schwinn Waterford PMount Raleigh C50 Cromoly Hybrid Legnano Tipo Roma Pista
Mentioned: 58 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3089 Post(s)
Liked 6,587 Times
in
3,777 Posts
__________________
Likes For cb400bill:
08-29-22, 07:06 AM
#82
Forum Moderator
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Kalamazoo MI
Posts: 20,645
Bikes: Fuji SL2.1 Carbon Di2 Cannondale Synapse Alloy 4 Trek Checkpoint ALR-5 Viscount Aerospace Pro Colnago Classic Rabobank Schwinn Waterford PMount Raleigh C50 Cromoly Hybrid Legnano Tipo Roma Pista
Mentioned: 58 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3089 Post(s)
Liked 6,587 Times
in
3,777 Posts
__________________
Likes For cb400bill:
08-29-22, 07:08 AM
#83
Forum Moderator
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Kalamazoo MI
Posts: 20,645
Bikes: Fuji SL2.1 Carbon Di2 Cannondale Synapse Alloy 4 Trek Checkpoint ALR-5 Viscount Aerospace Pro Colnago Classic Rabobank Schwinn Waterford PMount Raleigh C50 Cromoly Hybrid Legnano Tipo Roma Pista
Mentioned: 58 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3089 Post(s)
Liked 6,587 Times
in
3,777 Posts
__________________
Likes For cb400bill:
08-29-22, 07:09 AM
#84
Forum Moderator
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Kalamazoo MI
Posts: 20,645
Bikes: Fuji SL2.1 Carbon Di2 Cannondale Synapse Alloy 4 Trek Checkpoint ALR-5 Viscount Aerospace Pro Colnago Classic Rabobank Schwinn Waterford PMount Raleigh C50 Cromoly Hybrid Legnano Tipo Roma Pista
Mentioned: 58 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3089 Post(s)
Liked 6,587 Times
in
3,777 Posts
__________________
Likes For cb400bill:
08-29-22, 07:10 AM
#85
Forum Moderator
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Kalamazoo MI
Posts: 20,645
Bikes: Fuji SL2.1 Carbon Di2 Cannondale Synapse Alloy 4 Trek Checkpoint ALR-5 Viscount Aerospace Pro Colnago Classic Rabobank Schwinn Waterford PMount Raleigh C50 Cromoly Hybrid Legnano Tipo Roma Pista
Mentioned: 58 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3089 Post(s)
Liked 6,587 Times
in
3,777 Posts
__________________
Likes For cb400bill:
08-29-22, 07:12 AM
#86
Forum Moderator
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Kalamazoo MI
Posts: 20,645
Bikes: Fuji SL2.1 Carbon Di2 Cannondale Synapse Alloy 4 Trek Checkpoint ALR-5 Viscount Aerospace Pro Colnago Classic Rabobank Schwinn Waterford PMount Raleigh C50 Cromoly Hybrid Legnano Tipo Roma Pista
Mentioned: 58 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3089 Post(s)
Liked 6,587 Times
in
3,777 Posts
__________________
Likes For cb400bill:
08-29-22, 07:14 AM
#87
Forum Moderator
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Kalamazoo MI
Posts: 20,645
Bikes: Fuji SL2.1 Carbon Di2 Cannondale Synapse Alloy 4 Trek Checkpoint ALR-5 Viscount Aerospace Pro Colnago Classic Rabobank Schwinn Waterford PMount Raleigh C50 Cromoly Hybrid Legnano Tipo Roma Pista
Mentioned: 58 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3089 Post(s)
Liked 6,587 Times
in
3,777 Posts
__________________
08-29-22, 07:15 AM
#88
Forum Moderator
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Kalamazoo MI
Posts: 20,645
Bikes: Fuji SL2.1 Carbon Di2 Cannondale Synapse Alloy 4 Trek Checkpoint ALR-5 Viscount Aerospace Pro Colnago Classic Rabobank Schwinn Waterford PMount Raleigh C50 Cromoly Hybrid Legnano Tipo Roma Pista
Mentioned: 58 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3089 Post(s)
Liked 6,587 Times
in
3,777 Posts
__________________
Likes For cb400bill:
08-29-22, 07:16 AM
#89
Forum Moderator
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Kalamazoo MI
Posts: 20,645
Bikes: Fuji SL2.1 Carbon Di2 Cannondale Synapse Alloy 4 Trek Checkpoint ALR-5 Viscount Aerospace Pro Colnago Classic Rabobank Schwinn Waterford PMount Raleigh C50 Cromoly Hybrid Legnano Tipo Roma Pista
Mentioned: 58 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3089 Post(s)
Liked 6,587 Times
in
3,777 Posts
__________________
Likes For cb400bill:
08-29-22, 07:17 AM
#90
Forum Moderator
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Kalamazoo MI
Posts: 20,645
Bikes: Fuji SL2.1 Carbon Di2 Cannondale Synapse Alloy 4 Trek Checkpoint ALR-5 Viscount Aerospace Pro Colnago Classic Rabobank Schwinn Waterford PMount Raleigh C50 Cromoly Hybrid Legnano Tipo Roma Pista
Mentioned: 58 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3089 Post(s)
Liked 6,587 Times
in
3,777 Posts
__________________
Likes For cb400bill:
08-29-22, 07:18 AM
#91
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 20,305
Mentioned: 130 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3464 Post(s)
Liked 2,828 Times
in
1,995 Posts
Cleanest PX-10 in the world.
good Hour bike replica.
last image of the real one had the seatpost nearly slammed down in the frame.
that set of images did show Pino like tubes running perpendicular to the chainstay centerline. When I saw those it was a surprise.
good Hour bike replica.
last image of the real one had the seatpost nearly slammed down in the frame.
that set of images did show Pino like tubes running perpendicular to the chainstay centerline. When I saw those it was a surprise.
Likes For repechage:
08-29-22, 07:21 AM
#92
Forum Moderator
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Kalamazoo MI
Posts: 20,645
Bikes: Fuji SL2.1 Carbon Di2 Cannondale Synapse Alloy 4 Trek Checkpoint ALR-5 Viscount Aerospace Pro Colnago Classic Rabobank Schwinn Waterford PMount Raleigh C50 Cromoly Hybrid Legnano Tipo Roma Pista
Mentioned: 58 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3089 Post(s)
Liked 6,587 Times
in
3,777 Posts
__________________
Likes For cb400bill:
08-29-22, 07:27 AM
#93
Forum Moderator
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Kalamazoo MI
Posts: 20,645
Bikes: Fuji SL2.1 Carbon Di2 Cannondale Synapse Alloy 4 Trek Checkpoint ALR-5 Viscount Aerospace Pro Colnago Classic Rabobank Schwinn Waterford PMount Raleigh C50 Cromoly Hybrid Legnano Tipo Roma Pista
Mentioned: 58 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3089 Post(s)
Liked 6,587 Times
in
3,777 Posts
__________________
Likes For cb400bill:
Likes For thinktubes:
08-29-22, 12:52 PM
#95
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 20,305
Mentioned: 130 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3464 Post(s)
Liked 2,828 Times
in
1,995 Posts
"It's Original Confente paint"
the LeJeune paint was dreadful.
I would have repainted it with no hesitation, but you are correct. Not original finish.
the color coding on the fork crown as to use is lost also unless that info retained elsewhere.
the LeJeune paint was dreadful.
I would have repainted it with no hesitation, but you are correct. Not original finish.
the color coding on the fork crown as to use is lost also unless that info retained elsewhere.
Likes For philbob57:
08-29-22, 03:06 PM
#97
Likes For panzerwagon:
08-29-22, 09:17 PM
#98
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: PDX
Posts: 13,034
Bikes: Merz x 5 + Specialized Merz Allez x 2, Strawberry/Newlands/DiNucci/Ti x3, Gordon, Fuso/Moulton x2, Bornstein, Paisley,1958-74 Paramounts x3, 3rensho, 74 Moto TC, 73-78 Raleigh Pro's x5, Marinoni x2, 1960 Cinelli SC, 1980 Bianchi SC, PX-10 X 2
Mentioned: 267 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4510 Post(s)
Liked 6,377 Times
in
3,667 Posts
Likes For merziac:
08-30-22, 06:51 AM
#99
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Evanston, IL
Posts: 5,090
Bikes: many
Mentioned: 63 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1443 Post(s)
Liked 1,390 Times
in
759 Posts
Thanks for the pix cb400bill. I'm still interested in the list of award winners. I watched a bit of Tim Potter's FB Live video, but when it got to the award ceremony, I turned it off because I couldn't understand a word Mike Kone was saying. This was a frequent problem during the show. I don't know if many speakers didn't know how to work the mic (too close) or if it was simply poor acoustics and unfortunate listener location.
Likes For smontanaro:
08-30-22, 02:50 PM
#100
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: NW Burbs, Chicago
Posts: 12,053
Mentioned: 201 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3015 Post(s)
Liked 3,792 Times
in
1,406 Posts
Trophies:
Best original paint:
1957 Paramount
Best repaint:
Camille Daudon
Best example of bike craft:
Gangl - 1985 753 red/white/blue bike
Best post 1960:
Confente
Best pre 1960:
1953 Hetchins
Best of show:
Schwinn Paramount racing tandem
Peoples Choice:
Camille Daudon
Certificates:
US 1970-79 Accuracy Plus:
1970 Eisentraut
Best 1960-69
1969 Schwinn Paramount
Post 1969 European Non-Italian
Daimler Puch
Keeper of the Flame
Jeffrey Bock
1970-1986 Italian
73 Colnago
Japanese production bike:
1977 Bridgestone
Best Japanese track bike
1986 Nagasawa
1970+ Italian
1973 Tomassini
Best tribute bike
Merckx hour record
Best antique bicycle
1899 Tribute
1970-1986 Italian accuracy plus
1972 Frejus
1946-59
1953 Hetchins
Pre-1946
1932 Wastyn Special
US 1970-79
1979 Wizard
Best original paint:
1957 Paramount
Best repaint:
Camille Daudon
Best example of bike craft:
Gangl - 1985 753 red/white/blue bike
Best post 1960:
Confente
Best pre 1960:
1953 Hetchins
Best of show:
Schwinn Paramount racing tandem
Peoples Choice:
Camille Daudon
Certificates:
US 1970-79 Accuracy Plus:
1970 Eisentraut
Best 1960-69
1969 Schwinn Paramount
Post 1969 European Non-Italian
Daimler Puch
Keeper of the Flame
Jeffrey Bock
1970-1986 Italian
73 Colnago
Japanese production bike:
1977 Bridgestone
Best Japanese track bike
1986 Nagasawa
1970+ Italian
1973 Tomassini
Best tribute bike
Merckx hour record
Best antique bicycle
1899 Tribute
1970-1986 Italian accuracy plus
1972 Frejus
1946-59
1953 Hetchins
Pre-1946
1932 Wastyn Special
US 1970-79
1979 Wizard
Likes For iab: