Suntour 14-38 tooth freewheel.
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Wrong section if it's for sale. If it's for sale it needs a price
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Ha... Ha... That's so funny, did not even think about it being up for grabs...
Seriously though, I would like to see how much Wobble and Tilt you get off of a 36T Freewheel as opposed to a 36T Cassette. My tuned in 34T Shimano Freewheels on a trued 27" wheel get up to 2° Wobble. With the larger 36T Cog that 2° could affect my chain line, but by how much? Also, is there truly less wobble with a 36T cassette on an accurately trued wheel? Supposedly yes, but I am really not sure.
Seriously though, I would like to see how much Wobble and Tilt you get off of a 36T Freewheel as opposed to a 36T Cassette. My tuned in 34T Shimano Freewheels on a trued 27" wheel get up to 2° Wobble. With the larger 36T Cog that 2° could affect my chain line, but by how much? Also, is there truly less wobble with a 36T cassette on an accurately trued wheel? Supposedly yes, but I am really not sure.
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I have taken apart a Suntour AG freewheel and used the 38-tooth big cog in a variety of configurations on Suntour 5 and 6 speed bodies. Works fine, but there aren't many old-school derailleurs that can handle the 38. The Suntour AG shown in the photo above is one that will. A Huret Duopar will also work in most cases, subject to hanger length. Lots of modern long-cage derailleurs will handle a 38-tooth cog with ease, I think.
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That is why older riders
and C&Vers (i guess?)
shift less and
make minor speed adjustments
with cadence
[and take a hand off the brake hoods to shift them clunkers]
instead of just clicking up or down
a single cog or 2
to hold that spin.
but some subscribe to = Whatever works.
and some subscribe to smaller front rings.
and some succumb and walk those bits.
....or skip them.
and C&Vers (i guess?)
shift less and
make minor speed adjustments
with cadence
[and take a hand off the brake hoods to shift them clunkers]
instead of just clicking up or down
a single cog or 2
to hold that spin.
but some subscribe to = Whatever works.
and some subscribe to smaller front rings.
and some succumb and walk those bits.
....or skip them.
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I suppose a picture of my custom geared Suntour Perfect Ultra-spaced 38 mega-tooth 6-speed triple system, is worth picturing here;
As jonwvara mentions in another thread (about modifying a cassette), I have no need of small-toothed high gears. This set up is 50-42-31 X 15-20-25-30-34-38. The Sachs-Huret Eco Duopar can handle all the shifting from 31 X 15 and even 50 X 38 (which is really tight, and I avoid), but it can accommodate this shift if I do so in error.
grant40 , your 38T can also be utilized on Suntour Winner (all models), ProCompe, etc., freewheel bodies. It is on the rare side, so do not dispose. Even rusty it holds value because it is the largest tooth vintage freewheel sprocket (that I'm aware of).
As jonwvara mentions in another thread (about modifying a cassette), I have no need of small-toothed high gears. This set up is 50-42-31 X 15-20-25-30-34-38. The Sachs-Huret Eco Duopar can handle all the shifting from 31 X 15 and even 50 X 38 (which is really tight, and I avoid), but it can accommodate this shift if I do so in error.
grant40 , your 38T can also be utilized on Suntour Winner (all models), ProCompe, etc., freewheel bodies. It is on the rare side, so do not dispose. Even rusty it holds value because it is the largest tooth vintage freewheel sprocket (that I'm aware of).
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I suppose a picture of my custom geared Suntour Perfect Ultra-spaced 38 mega-tooth 6-speed triple system, is worth picturing here;
As jonwvara mentions in another thread (about modifying a cassette), I have no need of small-toothed high gears. This set up is 50-42-31 X 15-20-25-30-34-38. The Sachs-Huret Eco Duopar can handle all the shifting from 31 X 15 and even 50 X 38 (which is really tight, and I avoid), but it can accommodate this shift if I do so in error.
grant40 , your 38T can also be utilized on Suntour Winner (all models), ProCompe, etc., freewheel bodies. It is on the rare side, so do not dispose. Even rusty it holds value because it is the largest tooth vintage freewheel sprocket (that I'm aware of).
As jonwvara mentions in another thread (about modifying a cassette), I have no need of small-toothed high gears. This set up is 50-42-31 X 15-20-25-30-34-38. The Sachs-Huret Eco Duopar can handle all the shifting from 31 X 15 and even 50 X 38 (which is really tight, and I avoid), but it can accommodate this shift if I do so in error.
grant40 , your 38T can also be utilized on Suntour Winner (all models), ProCompe, etc., freewheel bodies. It is on the rare side, so do not dispose. Even rusty it holds value because it is the largest tooth vintage freewheel sprocket (that I'm aware of).
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I suppose a picture of my custom geared Suntour Perfect Ultra-spaced 38 mega-tooth 6-speed triple system, is worth picturing here;
As jonwvara mentions in another thread (about modifying a cassette), I have no need of small-toothed high gears. This set up is 50-42-31 X 15-20-25-30-34-38. The Sachs-Huret Eco Duopar can handle all the shifting from 31 X 15 and even 50 X 38 (which is really tight, and I avoid), but it can accommodate this shift if I do so in error.
grant40 , your 38T can also be utilized on Suntour Winner (all models), ProCompe, etc., freewheel bodies. It is on the rare side, so do not dispose. Even rusty it holds value because it is the largest tooth vintage freewheel sprocket (that I'm aware of).
As jonwvara mentions in another thread (about modifying a cassette), I have no need of small-toothed high gears. This set up is 50-42-31 X 15-20-25-30-34-38. The Sachs-Huret Eco Duopar can handle all the shifting from 31 X 15 and even 50 X 38 (which is really tight, and I avoid), but it can accommodate this shift if I do so in error.
grant40 , your 38T can also be utilized on Suntour Winner (all models), ProCompe, etc., freewheel bodies. It is on the rare side, so do not dispose. Even rusty it holds value because it is the largest tooth vintage freewheel sprocket (that I'm aware of).
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Oh, right. Those turn up pretty often at bike swaps around here, but I have never bothered to pick one up, because I already have a couple of 38-tooth Suntours. And really, the two added teeth don't gain you much.
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On the other hand, lest we begin making a false idol of Pastor Bob, it should be noted that the untrimmed end of his rear derailleur cable is in dubious taste at best.
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I forgot why I left it so long initially. IIRC, it had to do with my concern the Duopar RD would not work well, and if I needed to swap out different RDs, I should leave extra cable until I found one which played nicely with this extreme gearing system.
Eventually I did switch back to Campagnolo and a freewheel with only a 32T large sprocket.
But while I had it set up with the mountain climbing gears, I apparently never bothered to snip and shorten the cable. Which can be seen still in this photo taken a month later.
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A very minor transgression at worst, he may have been tapped out after wrangling the rest of the program.
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Well, yes. Bob's a good man. I am ready to cut him a little slack. So to speak.
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